Maryland transfer QB Danny O'Brien a Stinkin' Badger; UPDATED 6/11: O'Brien leaves UW

He'd feel that way if he's a pussy. But he's a big boy. The best players, play at Wisconsin. Bart will have every opportunity to play. He chose a winning program. Not somewhere he could pencil his name into the starting lineup. It's big boy football.

Wisconsin's situation is pretty much a no-brainer. Of the four scholarship QBs for next season, 3 are injured with two most likely career ending.

At the end of the day, you guys would get Bielema blamed for the Kennedy assassination if you could. Numerous clowns around here were clamoring that with Chryst gone, the wheels would come off. Bart Houston had every opportunity to leave. Danny O'Brien had a couple handfuls of BCS programs he could go play at. Sounds like things are healthy at the two time Big Ten champs place. Guess you guys will have to resort to "inventing" some moral high road as for why it's better to be a Minnesota Gopher. I'll gladly take winning in football for my enjoyment.

I think most people don't necessarily blame them for signing these free agents. I certainly don't. Doesn't mean the I can't think the rule is really stupid and many times is not used for the right reason.
 

i still don't get why wisky needs a transfer qb to hand the ball off??? lol
 

He'd feel that way if he's a pussy. But he's a big boy. The best players, play at Wisconsin. Bart will have every opportunity to play. He chose a winning program. Not somewhere he could pencil his name into the starting lineup. It's big boy football.

Wisconsin's situation is pretty much a no-brainer. Of the four scholarship QBs for next season, 3 are injured with two most likely career ending.

At the end of the day, you guys would get Bielema blamed for the Kennedy assassination if you could. Numerous clowns around here were clamoring that with Chryst gone, the wheels would come off. Bart Houston had every opportunity to leave. Danny O'Brien had a couple handfuls of BCS programs he could go play at. Sounds like things are healthy at the two time Big Ten champs place. Guess you guys will have to resort to "inventing" some moral high road as for why it's better to be a Minnesota Gopher. I'll gladly take winning in football for my enjoyment.

That's just a flat-out lie.
 

He'd feel that way if he's a pussy. But he's a big boy. The best players, play at Wisconsin. Bart will have every opportunity to play. He chose a winning program. Not somewhere he could pencil his name into the starting lineup. It's big boy football.

Wisconsin's situation is pretty much a no-brainer. Of the four scholarship QBs for next season, 3 are injured with two most likely career ending.

At the end of the day, you guys would get Bielema blamed for the Kennedy assassination if you could. Numerous clowns around here were clamoring that with Chryst gone, the wheels would come off. Bart Houston had every opportunity to leave. Danny O'Brien had a couple handfuls of BCS programs he could go play at. Sounds like things are healthy at the two time Big Ten champs place. Guess you guys will have to resort to "inventing" some moral high road as for why it's better to be a Minnesota Gopher. I'll gladly take winning in football for my enjoyment.


Not only did I just throw up in my mouth, but that is just plain stupid. Win a national championship someday and then you can say that with at least some leverage. That is an awfully bold statement and your a d-bag. Please go make sweet love to one of those deer carcasses you love so much in Wisconsin.
 

He'd feel that way if he's a pussy. But he's a big boy. The best players, play at Wisconsin. Bart will have every opportunity to play. He chose a winning program. Not somewhere he could pencil his name into the starting lineup. It's big boy football.

Wisconsin's situation is pretty much a no-brainer. Of the four scholarship QBs for next season, 3 are injured with two most likely career ending.

At the end of the day, you guys would get Bielema blamed for the Kennedy assassination if you could. Numerous clowns around here were clamoring that with Chryst gone, the wheels would come off. Bart Houston had every opportunity to leave. Danny O'Brien had a couple handfuls of BCS programs he could go play at. Sounds like things are healthy at the two time Big Ten champs place. Guess you guys will have to resort to "inventing" some moral high road as for why it's better to be a Minnesota Gopher. I'll gladly take winning in football for my enjoyment.

This Badger troll is clearly coming unhinged.

#1: You talk about these WI players as if they are somehow above the idea of looking at schools where they can get PT, on the same thread that is about Danny O'Brien choosing WI. Why do you think he chose WI? Do you think it might be the same reason why Wilson chose WI? Of course these guys could have chosen other schools, but if you don't think that immediate PT played a large part of their decision, you're as dumb as you are annoying. Therefore, by your definition O'Brien didn't really want to play "big boy" football. (We can just ignore how asinine it sounds for a message board poster to be pounding his chest and saying that kind of thing). Additionally, if you don't think WI's struggles at the QB position played somewhat of a role in landing Bart Houston, again, you're delusional. It's just not the way college football works.
*Note that i'm not blaming these guys for weighing the depth chart of the schools when making their decision, it only makes sense, no matter how "un-big boy" it might be.

#2: The vast majority of us have been saying all along that we don't blame WI for making this decision. I would hope that MN would do the exact same thing if it were in WI's shoes. However, you trolling idiots are at level 10 paranoia and perceive everything written on a Gopher message board to be an attack on your run-of-the-mill program. You have to remember, we don't care about you as much as you care about us. Most of us were commenting on the rule itself, not WI taking appropriate advantage of that rule.
 


Not only did I just throw up in my mouth, but that is just plain stupid. Win a national championship someday and then you can say that with at least some leverage. That is an awfully bold statement and your a d-bag. Please go make sweet love to one of those deer carcasses you love so much in Wisconsin.

I believe what he is inelegantly trying to convey is that the best players, who are on the weasel roster, will play.

Much like Kill says he will play the best players.
 



Is this supposed to be an impressive pick up by the Badgers? I mean it is a guy who had a great frosh season and won ACC ROY but looked like he had regressed last year to the point of being lost at times. So are we supposed to be concerned about a guy who finished 10th in the ACC, yes 10th, in passing??

Maybe not impressive, although some fairly high-octane schools were also in the hunt, but it certainly shores up a very, very thin position for UW. The run of injuries to Badger QBs over the past two years has been a nightmare. O'Brien doesn't need to be Wilson; he needs only to be a competent game manager and throw a pass or two to keep the defenses honest.
 



So has this current free agent selected the mystery graduate program that he is so serious about which, oddly enough, is not offered at Maryland?

Total horsesh!t rule. Not because he decided to become a red weasel, I just think it's a crap rule.
 

He'd feel that way if he's a pussy. But he's a big boy. The best players, play at Wisconsin. Bart will have every opportunity to play. He chose a winning program. Not somewhere he could pencil his name into the starting lineup. It's big boy football.

Wisconsin's situation is pretty much a no-brainer. Of the four scholarship QBs for next season, 3 are injured with two most likely career ending.

At the end of the day, you guys would get Bielema blamed for the Kennedy assassination if you could. Numerous clowns around here were clamoring that with Chryst gone, the wheels would come off. Bart Houston had every opportunity to leave. Danny O'Brien had a couple handfuls of BCS programs he could go play at. Sounds like things are healthy at the two time Big Ten champs place. Guess you guys will have to resort to "inventing" some moral high road as for why it's better to be a Minnesota Gopher. I'll gladly take winning in football for my enjoyment.

So Bart Houston would be a pussy if he transferred out? Then what does that make Russell Wilson and Danny O'Brien? Are they pussies too because they transferred out from their original universities for football reasons only?? That must be the connection you're making, right?
 


I think most people don't necessarily blame them for signing these free agents. I certainly don't. Doesn't mean the I can't think the rule is really stupid and many times is not used for the right reason.
It's not that I have a problem with the rule, I just don't want to have it be a common theme where a team like the Badgers uses it to try and bring in a player at a position of need annually. I feel like that is abusing the system since there is no obvious reason why that player is choosing to go to Madison for grad school over their former school.
 




"No Brainer" is the operative word for these Budgie fans. Please regain some sense of self-respect and self-worth, and go home to your own board. Stop looking for your bigger bratwurst. It's not here.
 



My mom died from leukemia, you prick.

Did you knit your own cape then? That's talent my man.

In all seriousness though, if your mom really did die of leukemia, I'm sorry to hear that. I've had two very good friends go the same way. Cancer is brutal.

To Boblaw: I'm not a troll. If you don't like preseason lists, fine, I can understand that, because some players, like Wagner, have not yet played at an All American level . I simply used the example to point out that we have talent returning and that it likely played a role in why O'Brien decided to come to UW.

This is the last time I will try to explain my presence, and will use a Dpodoll post to help. He said something to the effect of "I wish you would go talk about it back on a Badger circle jerk forum." In reality, that's exactly what it is a lot of the time --- a bunch of Badger fans talking about how great our team is, how great our University is, etc. It's boring and tiring listening to the homers spew off their BS. That's why I'm here; there is actual debate and interesting discussion. That, and you guys are hilarious and extremely entertaining.
 

Wisconsin Sucks.

Truth.

Honestly, i expected this from the moment burt started scanning the country for a mercenary. A few thoughts.

This kid aint Russell Wilson. Not even close. He'll be a quality starter, but won't carry the offense.

Also, sconnie fans are joking themselves if they think this won't affect QB recruiting. It will be used and thrown around by other coaches recruiting against sconnie, it likely will be effective unless the recruit is local.

I still don't see them as anything but a nice upper half Big Ten squad with a stable program(-all the coach overturn) and a weak schedule. That is their "secret".
Nebraska, PSU, OSU, and MSU will beat them, some badly.
O Brien will look like a heisman candidate against UTEP and UNI.

Can't wait for Hageman to toss this kid around like a ragdoll.
Kill's gone into Camp Randall and outcoached/scared the bejesus out of fat burt before, he can do it again.
Only this time he'll have better athletes and be able to finish the job.

Axe comes home this year. Mark it down.
 


Truth.

Honestly, i expected this from the moment burt started scanning the country for a mercenary. A few thoughts.

This kid aint Russell Wilson. Not even close. He'll be a quality starter, but won't carry the offense.

Also, sconnie fans are joking themselves if they think this won't affect QB recruiting. It will be used and thrown around by other coaches recruiting against sconnie, it likely will be effective unless the recruit is local.

I still don't see them as anything but a nice upper half Big Ten squad with a stable program(-all the coach overturn) and a weak schedule. That is their "secret".
Nebraska, PSU, OSU, and MSU will beat them, some badly.
O Brien will look like a heisman candidate against UTEP and UNI.

Can't wait for Hageman to toss this kid around like a ragdoll.
Kill's gone into Camp Randall and outcoached/scared the bejesus out of fat burt before, he can do it again.
Only this time he'll have better athletes and be able to finish the job.

Axe comes home this year. Mark it down.

Good points Ole. I see 6-6 for the Badgers this year. 7-5 if they can upset the Gophers at home.
 

So has this current free agent selected the mystery graduate program that he is so serious about which, oddly enough, is not offered at Maryland?

So he busts his ass to graduate a university in three years, but all of a sudden he's not serious about academics?
 

Your post wrecks of the disappointment that it is to be a Minnesota fan. But I'll address one point:

Additionally, if you don't think WI's struggles at the QB position played somewhat of a role in landing Bart Houston, again, you're delusional. It's just not the way college football works.

Bart Houston chose Wisconsin before Russell Wilson was a Badger. Before Jon Budmyer's elbow fell apart. Before Curt Phillips tore his ACL for the third time. Before Joe Brennan struggled as the #2 passer despite having offers from Miami, Harbaugh's Stanford, and many, many other programs. I'm sorry. You don't know what you are talking about.

Winning programs recruit good players each year. Players that have confidence in themselves to come in and compete. It's called depth. Big boy football.
 

So Bart Houston would be a pussy if he transferred out? Then what does that make Russell Wilson and Danny O'Brien? Are they pussies too because they transferred out from their original universities for football reasons only?? That must be the connection you're making, right?

That is not what I said or even remotely implied.

Dpoll posted:
Bart Houston has got to feel great that he signed up with Becky and now knows that he has no shot to even see the field until 2014.

I replied:

He'd feel that way if he's a pussy. But he's a big boy.

I replied to the notion that Bart's feelers are probably getting hurt....In big boy football, no one has time for feelers getting hurt. If Bart is the best QB, he'll play. He's hurt this year and will miss much of fall camp. But he'll have a good shot at developing and becoming a good QB for Wisconsin for 3 or 4 years.

As for Wilson transferring, his school didn't want him anymore. O'Brien's school drastically changed the offense. Wisconsin won't be changing their dynamic offense anytime soon.

Keep up the moral high road boys! I'll take winning on the field!
 

It awfully cute that someone who's only here to boost his fragile little ego by boasting about the athletic accomplishments of others keeps talking about "Big boy football."
 

Bart Houston chose Wisconsin before Russell Wilson was a Badger. Before Jon Budmyer's elbow fell apart. Before Curt Phillips tore his ACL for the third time. Before Joe Brennan struggled as the #2 passer despite having offers from Miami, Harbaugh's Stanford, and many, many other programs. I'm sorry. You don't know what you are talking about.

Perhaps it is you who doesn't know what they're talking about:

Curt Phillips injures ACL for 3rd time (article dated April 23, 2011): http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6409012
Bart Houston commits to Wisconsin (May 2, 2011): http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrec...ston-109059;_ylt=Ah_xKb1_Pk2dImax1AOJJcxIPZB4

Oops.

Russell Wilson is entirely immaterial to this conversation. There is no way, shape, or form that his eligibility would in any way impede Bart Houston's chances at seeing the field. I don't know why you're even bringing his name into the conversation. If anything, Wilson's presence would make Houston even more likely to strengthen his commitment, given that Wisconsin was so desperate for a QB that they openly solicited transfers.

P.S. It's Budmayr, not "Budmyer".

Winning programs recruit good players each year. Players that have confidence in themselves to come in and compete. It's called depth. Big boy football.

This has nothing to do with "competing" or "big boy football". (It's cute, by the way, that you think your team wouldn't absolutely get their asses kicked by the real "big boy football" teams. The 2011 Wisconsin squad, almost certainly the best in school history, would've been beaten by 3 TDs, at minimum, by either of Alabama or LSU on a neutral field. Get a clue.) This has everything to do with recruiting over the top of your own players. You're deluding yourself if you think it doesn't matter to the average recruit. I'm not saying it does specifically for Bart Houston, but the average player considers the depth chart when making a commitment. If you dispute this, you clearly know nothing at all about recruiting.
 

Numerous clowns around here were clamoring that with Chryst gone, the wheels would come off. Bart Houston had every opportunity to leave. Sounds like things are healthy at the two time Big Ten champs place.

Dodson and Denman didn't seem to think so...:cool:
 

Let's beat them this year.

+1. and the year after that, and the year after that, and the year after that, and the year after that, and the year after that, and the year after that, and the year after that, and the year after that, and the year after that.
 

So he busts his ass to graduate a university in three years, but all of a sudden he's not serious about academics?

maximus - please don't even try to defend this silly "graduate studies" transfer crap that wisconsin has been puling as actually having anything to do with academic desires of said transfer player. doing so makes you look like even more of a fool than usual. it has nothing to do with the academic desires of russell wilson, this o'brien kid, etc.

get a clue, maximus.
 

I'll also add it's hilarious to hear the dirty sconnies "explain" how the injuries to their QB's forced this upon BB. It had nothing to do with the programs' ability to develop the QB's they recruited.

Yeah, because 2nd and 3rd year QB's in a run first system are never considered for starting jobs.

I have no problem with the sconnies embracing this crap, like they embrace their POS head coach. Just don't pretend it's anything more than a free agent pickup.
 




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