Mar’Keise Irving enters the transfer portal

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Gophers1992 said:
Google "exception to the rule".

Also, Akers did come back and play, but didn't exactly dominate averaging 3.48 YPC in the playoffs.
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He looked good to me. YPC over a few games don't necessarily tell the whole story.
 

Word said:
He looked good to me. YPC over a few games don't necessarily tell the whole story.
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Fair, that is a small sample, and you're generally playing good defenses in the playoffs. I really hope I'm proven wrong, I just think anyone expecting to see the old Mo is setting themselves up for disappointment.
 

Gophers1992 said:
Fair, that is a small sample, and you're generally playing good defenses in the playoffs. I really hope I'm proven wrong, I just think anyone expecting to see the old Mo is setting themselves up for disappointment.
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Even so, I don't think you tell a guy that has given everything he has to this program to "walk" when he says he wants to come back. That would be a totally classless move IMO. If Bucky can't handle some competition then he shouldn't be on the team.
 

Word said:
Did you see Cam Akers last season? Times have changed with surgery and rehab.
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Exactly. A lot of that list on that Tweet is from 5-10 years ago. Just like with ACLs, the surgery evolved over the years. The Akers article explained how they did his surgery in a new way that helped him come back in 6 months.
 


Word said:
Even so, I don't think you tell a guy that has given everything he has to this program to "walk" when he says he wants to come back. That would be a totally classless move IMO. If Bucky can't handle some competition then he shouldn't be on the team.
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Yep, Mo deserves every opportunity to cap his Gopher career off in style. People seem to forget that he played the good soldier the year we had Rodney and Shannon healthy. It's too bad Bucky couldn't fathom that idea for one season.
 

Word said:
Even so, I don't think you tell a guy that has given everything he has to this program to "walk" when he says he wants to come back. That would be a totally classless move IMO. If Bucky can't handle some competition then he shouldn't be on the team.
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Oh yes I absolutely agree there. I was only addressing the comeback from injury part. You are right, even if Bucky is the more effective player than Mo right now, Mo has more than earned the right to work his way back into the lineup. If that's why Bucky left, then good riddance IMO.
 

WriterGoph said:
Yep, Mo deserves every opportunity to cap his Gopher career off in style. People seem to forget that he played the good soldier the year we had Rodney and Shannon healthy. It's too bad Bucky couldn't fathom that idea for one season.
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Do we know that's why Bucky is leaving, or are we just making assumptions?
 

I think it's fair to say that no one on this board knows why Irving is leaving. To the best of my knowledge, Irving has not said so publicly. So, the only people who know why are Irving, his immediate family (I assume) - and maybe the Gopher Coaches.

we don't know what transpired between Irving and the Gopher Coaches. he may have given them a reason - or reasons - or he might have said nothing.

There could be a myriad of reasons for the move. Some could be football related - other could have nothing to do with football.

and finally - it's not like players didn't transfer under the old rules. they did. for all we know, Irving might have left the Gophers even if he had to sit out a year. yes, the portal makes it easier to leave.

But - the bottom line is that he wanted to leave, and he left.

if a player does not want to play for MN, there's not a lot anyone can do to keep them here.

The Gophers will have a football team this fall. Someone will play running back.
 




This hurts to hear. I enjoyed watching Bucky and I cannot remember a Gopher back as shifty quick and good in the open field for quite some time.
Could he be eligible to play this fall?
He could have run afoul of team rules.
 


Gophers1992 said:
Do we know that's why Bucky is leaving, or are we just making assumptions?
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Maybe a matter of semantics, but I'd call it more of an inference than an assumption. For me, I'll "know" if he goes somewhere that he lands #1 on the depth chart vs. somewhere he has to split time and not get to be "the guy."
 





New day and age. We need to figure out running backs and QBs … if back up QBs get zero playing time in 2 years they will be gone. Same as running backs. Must have playing time of some sorts or 2 year plans of some sort. Transfer portal in my opinion sucks. Changed everything recruiting wise and development wise.
 

Well, at least we can always say we had the best "Bucky" the BIG has ever seen. Glad he was able to help the Gophs Jump Around. Sorry to see you go, but thank you for everything.
 

st.paultransplantGOPHER said:
New day and age. We need to figure out running backs and QBs … if back up QBs get zero playing time in 2 years they will be gone. Same as running backs. Must have playing time of some sorts or 2 year plans of some sort. Transfer portal in my opinion sucks. Changed everything recruiting wise and development wise.
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I think a QB will be OK with no snaps the first couple years if they realize there are blue skies ahead. Clark and Annexstad knew it wasn't gonna happen here. I wonder how patient Knuth will be with Athan in front of him. You probably won't keep a solid QB with every class, but if you have one every other year they see they have 2 years waiting for them. I don't think we'll ever go after the QBs that think they should start day 1.
 

WriterGoph said:
Yep, Mo deserves every opportunity to cap his Gopher career off in style. People seem to forget that he played the good soldier the year we had Rodney and Shannon healthy. It's too bad Bucky couldn't fathom that idea for one season.
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Also, Bryce stepped in and played a lot his true FR year, because of injuries ahead of him. Then he stepped back and red-shirted the next year. Team ahead of self. Deserves the loyalty of the team. Trey has put in the time, and waited, too. Hope they with Mo form a great, healthy trio next year.
 





bfriedrichs10 said:
I think a QB will be OK with no snaps the first couple years if they realize there are blue skies ahead. Clark and Annexstad knew it wasn't gonna happen here. I wonder how patient Knuth will be with Athan in front of him. You probably won't keep a solid QB with every class, but if you have one every other year they see they have 2 years waiting for them. I don't think we'll ever go after the QBs that think they should start day 1.
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Not every player quits due to lack of playing time. They like being at Minnesota. They are called "teammates".
 

Gopher_In_NYC said:
To some extent maybe, but that's not PJ's vibe obviously.

Unknown - TBD Grasshopper

Who was the B10 back of the year previously and Potts who was leading the B10 in rushing before he got hurt.

You have ZERO idea of why they transferred - it certainly wasn't for lack of seeing the field last season and if you looked at it last year, both of them had less chance to contribute than for this upcoming season.

I and Fleck believe in loyalty and you don't - very myopic viewpoint, so maybe you need to move from the "Parking Lot"

OR

you're a piss and moaner and would be flapping them keys if Mo left
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I was well prepared for Mo to leave and for Tanner to leave too. This last year, taking 2021 and 2022 was so stupid with guys still playing at 24 and 35 years old due to injuries and Covid. I do find the timing interesting as the spring game is not far away, who has room for all these kids transferring now.
 

Word said:
Did you see Cam Akers last season? Times have changed with surgery and rehab.
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Are you arguing he was the same last year?

He averaged 4.3 YPC in 2020, and 4.8 YPC during his playoffs breakout.

Last season when he came back he averaged 2.5 YPC on 67 carries, a decent sample size. He did have that one nice 40 yard catch in their first playoff game. I'd say he was not the same.

I'm optimistic that Mo can contribute, especially since it will be an entire year of rehab, and he was not a guy who relied on his athleticism in the first place. But I'm still worried he will be ineffective. Hope I'm wrong.
 

eker0016 said:
Are you arguing he was the same last year?

He averaged 4.3 YPC in 2020, and 4.8 YPC during his playoffs breakout.

Last season when he came back he averaged 2.5 YPC on 67 carries, a decent sample size. He did have that one nice 40 yard catch in their first playoff game. I'd say he was not the same.

I'm optimistic that Mo can contribute, especially since it will be an entire year of rehab, and he was not a guy who relied on his athleticism in the first place. But I'm still worried he will be ineffective. Hope I'm wrong.
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Akers came back at 6 months. Mo has at least 5 months more than that.
 

Word said:
Akers came back at 6 months. Mo has at least 5 months more than that.
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I'm aware, which is why I cited it as a cause for optimism.

Akers has not yet demonstrated that RB's can come back and be effective from Achilles though.

It makes me nervous as hell that we have one RB coming off a torn ACL, another a torn achilles, and another an unspecified season ending injury, along with one true freshman and a couple of special teamers.
 

eker0016 said:
I'm aware, which is why I cited it as a cause for optimism.

Akers has not yet demonstrated that RB's can come back and be effective from Achilles though.

It makes me nervous as hell that we have one RB coming off a torn ACL, another a torn achilles, and another an unspecified season ending injury, along with one true freshman and a couple of special teamers.
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Who tore their ACL?
 

Word said:
Who tore their ACL?
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Thanks for the question -- it looks like they never confirmed what the Bryce Williams injury was in classic PJ fashion.

I swear I remember seeing them do the stability test on his knee that is indicative of an ACL injury.

Have we seen him at spring practice? I would love to be wrong.
 
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