Katz: U$C and Minnesota both showing strong interest in FGCU's Andy Enfield

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MadtownGopher said:
Laziest post ever (made by many): "He'd be another Monson."

Either post some evidence and reasoning behind that statement or stop wasting our time with crap like that. Just because he is a mid-major coach doesn't mean he is going to be exactly like Monson. Not to mention he wouldn't have to clean up one of the worst academic scandals in the history of the NCAA.
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If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...........
 

PurplePride said:
This guy sounds like another Monson.

Please tell me we didn't fire Tubby for another Monson.
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Not sure the comparison is apt. Gonzaga won the WCC in 1993/94, and made the NCAA tournament in 1994/95. Monson stepped in in 1997/98, took them to the NIT and then to the Elite 8 the following year. Monson certainly acquired more than Enfield did when he started.
 

bga1 said:
To be honest considering the options out there at this point- I'd take Enfield. This is assuming we can't get Marshall (getting more pricey by the day)or Williams (can't believe that possible) or that Teague can't swallow his pride and get Flip back in the picture.

The thing that grabs me about Enfield is the joy and fun that his players play with and the excitement they showed for him. They spoke of how much they believe in him and his system. That appears to be the antithesis of Tubby's years here. So with the current field and odds - I guess I'd take him and live with it- even though he is high risk.
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Yep, and he may not even be a Villa 7 guy unless he wasn't successful enough to mention back in August.

"Mike Ellis has been instrumental in connecting potential head coaches with their future employers," VCU head coach Shaka Smart told CBSSports.com. "More so than any search firm. Aided by the tremendous support of Nike, Mike has made Villa 7 one of the premiere professional development opportunities in our business."

"Where do you get an intimate setting for an AD to really know who you are?" Syracuse coach-in-waiting Mike Hopkins said. "That is what this provides."

The project is now heading into its 10th year -- and more than 90 coaches who have been involved have gotten head jobs. We're talking guys like Shaka Smart (VCU), Buzz Williams (Marquette), Josh Pastner (Memphis), Chris Mack (Xavier), John Groce (Illinois), Archie Miller (Dayton), Paul Lusk (Missouri State), Ed Cooley (Providence), Anthony Grant (Alabama), Dave Rice (UNLV), Dan Muller (Illinois State), Pat Skerry (Towson) and numerous women's coaches as well.

Not only is this a huge get for the Minnesota program due to Ellis' involvement with Villa 7, but it'll also be critical when the time comes to replace Tubby Smith. I'm not saying Smith will be retiring in the next year or two, but he is 61 -- and no one has more connections at the administrative level than Ellis.

Ellis was the one who put a then-unknown assistant named Shaka Smart in front of Teague, who pulled the shocker and hired the Rams head coach.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...xpected-to-take-villa-7-with-him-to-minnesota
 

MadtownGopher said:
Laziest post ever (made by many): "He'd be another Monson."

Either post some evidence and reasoning behind that statement or stop wasting our time with crap like that. Just because he is a mid-major coach doesn't mean he is going to be exactly like Monson. Not to mention he wouldn't have to clean up one of the worst academic scandals in the history of the NCAA.
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Pretty lazy with the quotations too- the guy said "sounds like another Monson." Translation: risky.
 

MadtownGopher said:
Again, you would have said the same about Shaka 2 years ago, Miller this year, Brad Stevens 4 years ago, etc. When you aren't an elite program (like us) you have to be willing to take a risk if you want high reward. Enfield has worked under some great coaches and took a school no one had ever heard of to the Sweet 16. If you aren't even open to the possibility of hiring him then you won't be happy with our hire no matter what. We are going to hire a "no body" like Enfield, Buzz Williams isn't coming to the rescue.
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then i would have kept tubby. i dont think enfield can take this program and make it better than tubby. he is a great coach im sure, you dont get d1 coaching jobs without knowing what youre doing, but i would bet his first 2-3 yrs he has bad recruiting classes and that would make me believe we are the bottom dwellars of the big ten and in 5-6 yrs we are looking for another coach. nothing that enfield has done makes me believe he is a guy that turn the U around. I dont think that hes similar to shaka, stevens, or buzz in any way and just because they all may have been "unknowns" when they started doesnt mean it will be a success. i would bet minnesota is a much harder job to turn around compared to building off of what others did at marquette, butler, and vcu. nothing is going to be "guaranteed" and that is why i would choose flip if i had any say. flip will make the job cool and get the blue hairs to donate to make the minnesota job appealing to the next guy, who could be a "shaka-type, or buzz, etc etc" and thats why i think flip should be the only real option.

again i could be ass backwards in my way of thinking, im fine if im wrong
 




At this point it's become obvious that we can't get anything better than Tubby and that this whole situation was a complete failure.
Teague is the only one responsible and should be fired.

Three years from now we will all realize what a HUGE mistake firing Tubby was.
 

JimmyJamesMD said:
Yuk. Please go to USC.
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I agree. What makes him special? Two wins in the NCAA? Come on. If he loses to G Town, he isn't qualified. But since he did, he all the sudden becomes good enough to recruit and succeed in the Big freaking 10. if I'm not mistaken the players on the current team he didn't even recruit.
 



I don't understand how people can rationally believe "we should have kept Tubby." He was trending downward in recruiting and even on court results. For whatever reason he couldn't compete in the B1G, especially when it mattered (2nd half of conference). It is also obvious the team had given up on him, based on Trevor's comments to Amelia the day after he was fired. The program would be one year further into decline if we kept him another year. Even if you ultimately don't agree with who Teague hires, keeping Tubby was definitely not the answer.
 

bga1 said:
To be honest considering the options out there at this point- I'd take Enfield. This is assuming we can't get Marshall (getting more pricey by the day)or Williams (can't believe that possible) or that Teague can't swallow his pride and get Flip back in the picture.

The thing that grabs me about Enfield is the joy and fun that his players play with and the excitement they showed for him. They spoke of how much they believe in him and his system. That appears to be the antithesis of Tubby's years here. So with the current field and odds - I guess I'd take him and live with it- even though he is high risk.
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I would really want to know what his role at FSU was before giving him an endorsement. I am anti-flavor of the day, but he does have more breadth to his resume than Monson did, and the style of play is exciting, but he would need to play solid half court offense to be succesful. I am provincial and think his biggest weakness is a lack of midwest connections. It is my knock on many of the realistic options presented here.
 

PurplePride said:
This guy sounds like another Monson.

Please tell me we didn't fire Tubby for another Monson.
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Dan Monson never coached at a major program before he came to Minnesota. Monson's biggest downfall is he couldn't recruit here.

Some say they'd rather take an up and coming assistant before Enfield? Enfield was a top assistant at Florida State and recruited at an extremely high level. He was that up and coming assistant before he took the Florida Gulf Coast job, and look at what he did at that school in two years.

If the Gophers don't hire him, I think a lot of us will be kicking ourselves in a few years when he continues to succeed at higher level programs.
 

MadtownGopher said:
I don't understand how people can rationally believe "we should have kept Tubby." He was trending downward in recruiting and even on court results. For whatever reason he couldn't compete in the B1G, especially when it mattered (2nd half of conference). It is also obvious the team had given up on him, based on Trevor's comments to Amelia the day after he was fired. The program would be one year further into decline if we kept him another year. Even if you ultimately don't agree with who Teague hires, keeping Tubby was definitely not the answer.
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Anyone at this point saying we should have kept Tubby is trolling.
 



Chris Mooney-Richmond - solid, but major backslides the last two years
Keith Dambrot-Akron - 54, zero high-major experience, claim to fame is coaching LeBron - NO
Chris Mack-Xavier - solid, probably already has a better job, certainly will if Xavier moves to Big East as expected
Tommy Amaker-Harvard - solid, no problems with this, would rather have him than Enfield, realize this isn't popular opinion
Paul Hewitt-George Mason - one good year at GT with several poor ones - NO NO NO - would rather hire Ryan Saunders as HC
Ben Jacobsen-N. Iowa - two good years at UNI surrounded by several mediocre ones - I'd rather have Enfield
Greg McDermott-Creighton - has done nothing not accomplished on his son's shirttails; already fired from BCS job - NO
Anthony Evans-Norfolk St. - an HBCU coach with extremely limited success? NO
Dave Rose-BYU solid, but 55 and zero high-major experience; I'd rather have Enfield
Kermit Davis-MTSU solid, but 53 and meh resume; I'd rather have Enfield

None of these guys would be any more or less of a risk than Enfield. The BCS retreads are a non-starter in my book (except Amaker, who was very young when he coached at both Seton Hall and Michigan), and most of these guys are only available because they're relatively old. Firing Tubby for his alleged lack of fire doesn't sit well when you hire a guy almost as old as him.
 


Holy Man said:
I would really want to know what his role at FSU was before giving him an endorsement. I am anti-flavor of the day, but he does have more breadth to his resume than Monson did, and the style of play is exciting, but he would need to play solid half court offense to be succesful. I am provincial and think his biggest weakness is a lack of midwest connections. It is my knock on many of the realistic options presented here.
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Here's his bio from FSU's site: http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/enfield_andy00.html

Andy Enfield left the NBA coaching ranks with the goal of helping elevate the Florida State basketball program to national prominence. He has certainly succeeded. In only four seasons as an assistant coach in Tallahassee, Enfield has led the Seminoles to two NCAA Tournament appearances and the first ACC championship game appearance in school history. In addition to those successes, Enfield has also immensely boosted Florida State's recruiting efforts, having drawn three top 25 classes and two McDonald's All-Americans to Tallahassee.

TEAM SINCE JOINING
Since joining the Florida State bench in 2006, Enfield has led the program to new heights, as the Seminoles made their first ever ACC championship game appearance under his watch in 2009. That same season, the Seminoles returned to the NCAA Tournament after an 11 year absence, and finished the season ranked No. 16 in the final AP poll - the highest ranking to end a season since 1989, when the team also finished 16th after an NCAA Tournament appearance. Enfield's ability to recruit and develop players has paid off for Florida State, as in 2010 the team made a return trip to the NCAA Tournament, marking the first time in 17 years a Seminole team had competed in NCAA Tournament in consecutive seasons. Additionally, the Seminoles have won at least 22 games in three of his four seasons on staff. In the always competitive ACC, Florida State has won at least 10 conference games in consecutive seasons for the first time since the teams' first two years in the ACC (1992-93). The Seminoles have won the second highest amount of ACC games in the last two seasons.

TEAM STATISTICAL IMPROVEMENT
Under Enfield's guidance, in 2010, Florida State ranked among the top-25 nationally in four distinct categories (1st in field goal percentage defense, 10th in blocks per game, 19th in scoring defense and 25th in rebounding margin), while ranking in the top-50 nationally in two other categories (29th in steals per game and 49th in scoring margin). Florida State's No. 1 ranking in field goal percentage defense marks the first time in school history that the team has ranked first nationally in any category.

RECRUITING
Enfield's recruiting successes led him to be named as the most visible assistant coach in the nation by Basketball Times for the 2009 recruiting period. His unique NBA experience and proven ability to help players improve at multiple levels makes Florida State an attractive destination for future Seminoles. He has helped recruit ten national Top 100 high school players including two McDonald's All-Americans, and had a vital role in helping the Seminoles land a nationally ranked Top 10 recruiting class in 2008. In his most recent recruiting class, Enfield helped draw two more Top 40 players including point guard and No. 21 overall recruit Ian Miller and No. 36 ranked Okaro White. In Enfield's time as an assistant coach at Florida State, he has overseen the recruiting of three Top-25 recruiting classes including No. 9 in 2008, No. 24 in 2009 and No. 16 in 2010.

MICHAEL SNAER
Michael Snaer came to Florida State as a top-flight recruit, earning McDonald's All-American honors as a senior in high school and a national recruiting ranking as high as No. 11 overall in the nation. Having helped recruit him to Tallahassee, Enfield was obviously set on turning Snaer into a productive college player, and he did just that, as Snaer earned All-ACC freshman honors in 2010.

IMPACT ON TEAMS
The fifth-year assistant coach has been nationally recognized for his ability to teach the finer points of basketball - particularly on the offensive end. His players have shown remarkable improvement in their shooting percentages, technique and offensive efficiency as the program has gained national prominence during his tenure.

COACHING ACCOLADES
Enfield's success at Florida State was recognized by the editors of ESPN The Magazine during the 2008-09 season when he was featured as one of five super assistant coaches in college basketball.

FREE THROW SHOOTING
Florida State has become one of the top free throw shooting teams in the nation since Enfield's arrival at Florida State. The Seminoles have set the school record for team free throw shooting percentage twice in his four seasons, including the current mark of .773 in 2008. Florida State ranked fifth in the nation in 2008 and ninth in 2007 in the category. In Enfield's first three seasons on the job in Tallahassee, the Seminoles were the eighth best free throw shooting team in the nation. Under Enfield's watchful shooting eye, former Seminole post players 6'9 Uche Ecehfu and 7'1 Solomon Alabi improved their free throw shooting percentages from just over 50 percent as freshman to better than 80 percent at the conclusion of the their careers. Ucehfu led the ACC in free throw shooting in conference games as a senior with a 90.9 percent mark while Alabi ranked in the ACC's top 10 by shooting 80 percent from the free throw line.

TONEY DOUGLAS
Enfield worked closely with All-American and All-ACC First Team selection Toney Douglas throughout his three-year career at Florida State. The two arrived at Florida State in 2006 (Douglas red-shirted his first year in Tallahassee) and Enfield helped Douglas lead the ACC in scoring with a 21.5 points per game average as a senior. He shot a career-high 38.5 percent from the 3-point line as a senior in 2009. Douglas finished his career with 1,655 points in three seasons which ranks as the fifth-highest career point total and is the most ever by a player who only played three years at Florida State. Enfield improved Douglas' scoring productivity each year in Tallahassee as the guard averaged 12.7 points per game as a sophomore and 15.4 points per game as a junior before winning the conference scoring title in his last year with a 21.5 points per game scoring average. In his final season as a Seminole, Douglas finished runner up in ACC Player of the Year voting and won ACC Defensive Player of the Year honors. Douglas was drafted in the first round of the 2009 NBA Draft by the Los Angeles Lakers.

THORNTON/ECHEFU
Enfield also played a big role in the offensive breakout of Al Thornton during his senior season at Florida State. Thornton shot a career-high .530 from the field (fifth in the ACC), a career-high .790 from the free throw line (seventh in the ACC) and a career-high .444 from the 3-point line in averaging a career-high and ACC leading 19.7 points per game. Thornton was an All-America Third-Team and All-ACC First-Team selection and finished as the runner-up for the prestigious ACC Player of the Year award. Thornton was named to the NBA All-Rookie First-Team in his first professional season. Additionally, Enfield worked with Uche Echefu who realized one of the most remarkable free throw shooting percentage improvements during his career as a Seminole. As a freshman he shot 54.5 percent from the line; with Enfield's tutoring, he raised his shooting percentage to 84.8 percent as senior and led the ACC with an incredible 90.9 percent mark from the line in conference play.

NBA EXPERIENCE
Prior to joining the Seminole staff and Leonard Hamilton, Enfield was an assistant coach for the Boston Celtics and the Milwaukee Bucks and was a consultant for numerous other NBA teams.

BOSTON CELTICS
Enfield was an assistant coach with the Boston Celtics of the NBA from 1998-2000 - a time during which he worked with head coach Rick Pitino in building the franchise into a play-off contending team. While in Boston, Enfield worked closely with five-time All-Star Paul Pierce, the Celtics first round draft choice in 1998. Pierce was named to the NBA All-Rookie team as he averaged 16.5 points and 6.4 rebounds. With Enfield on the staff during the 1999-2000 season, the Celtics were the most improved free throw shooting team in the league.

MILWAUKEE BUCKS
Enfield also worked as an assistant with the Milwaukee Bucks from 1994-96 as they, too, drafted well and began a growth period that helped the franchise return to the playoffs. During his first season in Milwaukee, the team showed a 14-game improvement from the previous season and found itself in the hunt for a spot in the playoffs until late in the season. Enfield tutored Glenn Robinson (the No. 1 overall selection in the 1994 NBA Draft) and four-time All-Star forward Vin Baker. Robinson averaged 21.9 points and Baker 17.7 as they formed one of the highest scoring and best shooting duos in the league that season.

ALL-NET BASKTBALL/CLINICS
Enfield is the president of All Net Basketball, one of the top basketball instructional programs in the United States. He has coached over 100 NBA players on shooting and offensive development. He was a guest clinician on the topic of shooting at the NABC Coaches' Clinic at the1998 and 2005 NCAA Final Fours. He has been hired as a coaching consultant for NBA teams such as the Chicago Bulls and Washington Wizards as well as numerous college basketball programs across the country. He has also been an invited clinician for basketball programs overseas and professional teams as far away as China.

PLAYING RECORDS
Enfield set the all-time NCAA career free-throw percentage record with a mark of 92.5% (431 of 466). He still holds nine career records at Johns Hopkins and was inducted into the school's Athletic Hall of Fame in 2001. His 2,025 career points are nearly 500 more than any other player has scored for the Blue Jays. Enfield led his team in scoring during all four seasons of his playing career and also holds the two highest single-season point totals in school history, with 606 points in 1990 and 610 points in 1991.

ACADEMIC ACCOLADES
Enfield's accomplishments in the classroom were just as impressive as his exploits on the basketball court at Hopkins as he earned First Team GTE Academic All-America honors as a senior and second team honors as a junior. He was the first basketball player at Johns Hopkins to earn an NCAA Postgraduate Scholarship and was named the scholar-athlete of the year by the NABC in 1991.

BUSINESS SUCCESS
Enfield relied on his educational and business background to help develop TractManager, Inc. into the most successful document imaging and contract management company within the Healthcare and Real Estate markets. As part of the initial investment group and one of three key executives in the start up company, Enfield helped transform TractManager, Inc. into a very successful and profitable company.

EDUCATION
Enfield earned his bachelor's degree in economics from Johns Hopkins in 1991 and a master's degree in business administration from the University of Maryland in 1994. He earned a 3.5 grade point average as an undergraduate.

PERSONAL
Enfield and his wife Amanda, have two daughters: Aila (4) and Lily (3).
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westcoastgopher11 said:
Anyone at this point saying we should have kept Tubby is trolling.
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Incorrect. I've seriously and sincerely said we shouldn't have fired Tubby from the beginning, and I've been consistent with that, and no one will ever get me to deviate from that opinion.
 

MadtownGopher said:
I don't understand how people can rationally believe "we should have kept Tubby." He was trending downward in recruiting and even on court results. For whatever reason he couldn't compete in the B1G, especially when it mattered (2nd half of conference). It is also obvious the team had given up on him, based on Trevor's comments to Amelia the day after he was fired. The program would be one year further into decline if we kept him another year. Even if you ultimately don't agree with who Teague hires, keeping Tubby was definitely not the answer.
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One word "Integrity"
 

dpodoll68 said:
Incorrect. I've seriously and sincerely said we shouldn't have fired Tubby from the beginning, and I've been consistent with that, and no one will ever get me to deviate from that opinion.
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TBF you aren't exactly the poster child to prove people aren't trolling.
 



dpodoll68 said:
Incorrect. I've seriously and sincerely said we shouldn't have fired Tubby from the beginning, and I've been consistent with that, and no one will ever get me to deviate from that opinion.
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You said at the beginning of the season that if Minnesota didn't finish 5th or better in the Big Ten that you'd be in favor of firing Tubby Smith. Details, details...
 

Enfield makes players better. Tubby made them worse. Who'd you rather have?
 

This from Wiki- They call him "the shot doctor" !!!!- could he save Oto and Joe?

Enfield used his NCAA postgraduate scholarship to earn an MBA from the University of Maryland. To supplement his income, Enfield and current Johns Hopkins lacrosse coach Dave Pietramala began holding lacrosse camps, then, based on his collegiate success, he started holding basketball camps specializing in shooting. This evolved into consulting, where he advertised himself as "the shot doctor" and from there to stints as shooting coach for the Milwaukee Bucks and Boston Celtics. Moving to New York City, he formed his first company which sells videos teaching his basketball shooting techniques. At about this same time, Enfield entered into a partnership that developed TractManager, a company supplying business technology services to the health services industry, which grew to a value of $100 million before he sold his share in the company.[3] Enfield is married to Amanda Marcum, a former model,[4] and has three children.
 

Gopher Warrior said:
You said at the beginning of the season that if Minnesota didn't finish 5th or better in the Big Ten that you'd be in favor of firing Tubby Smith. Details, details...
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As I've already stated, I'm almost certain I didn't say that. I've already stated that I believe you to be exaggerating or flat-out making it up. It should be easy to find if I said it.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Incorrect. I've seriously and sincerely said we shouldn't have fired Tubby from the beginning, and I've been consistent with that, and no one will ever get me to deviate from that opinion.
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i understood the firing of tubby but i also wouldnt have fired him unless a rock star was guaranteed to take the job. i think potentially we could drop further back the next 3-5 yrs and it might become a hole we cant dig out of.
 

westcoastgopher11 said:
The contrarian hyperbole schtick is cliche at best.
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I'm not a contrarian, I only engage in hyperbole to counter asinine claims, and I certainly don't have a "schtick". I'll put my GH resumé up against yours anytime.
 

westcoastgopher11 said:
The contrarian hyperbole schtick is cliche at best.
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When dpdoll says "When have I ever trolled on this site?" he means he will be requesting exact dates and times and a complete definition of trolling.
 

dpodoll68 said:
I'm not a contrarian, I only engage in hyperbole to counter asinine claims, and I certainly don't have a "schtick".
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dpodoll68 said:
Incorrect. I've seriously and sincerely said we shouldn't have fired Tubby from the beginning, and I've been consistent with that, and no one will ever get me to deviate from that opinion.
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You aren't even trying anymore dude.

dpodoll68 said:
I'll put my GH resumé up against yours anytime.
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Internet dick measuring contest? I'm IN.
 

lakesgopher said:
i understood the firing of tubby but i also wouldnt have fired him unless a rock star was guaranteed to take the job. i think potentially we could drop further back the next 3-5 yrs and it might become a hole we cant dig out of.
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A "rock star" as you put it is never going to come here, much less commit to coming here before we fire the current coach. Does that mean you would have kept Tubby indefinitely? How long could Tubby live off his national title from the last millennium?
 

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