Katz: U$C and Minnesota both showing strong interest in FGCU's Andy Enfield

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lakesgopher said:
then stop trying to spin it so you are right---something dp does all the time that annoys people
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Spinning so that I'm right? I never said he did or didn't say anything. I just find it amusing that he is defending Tubby's end result of tied for 7th with a 9th seed in the BTT. That is absolutely horrific end result given all of the hype this team had and all of the returning players. I bet if you would have asked ANYONE on this board prior to the season if they'd be happy with that, everyone would say no. And I'd also say just about everyone would say it would be grounds for dismissal. We lost tie breakers to non-NCAA Tournament teams, for god sakes.
 

MadtownGopher said:
That is absolutely horrific end result given all of the hype this team had and all of the returning players.
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Obviously, I disagree. Pretty typical regular season by Minnesota standards. Also, I couldn't help but notice that you're conveniently leaving out the "first Tournament win for Minnesota in 23 years" part. I've challenged others to find even one other example of a coach getting fired coming off his best season for them, let alone the school's best season in 23 years. I'm still waiting for that corroborating example.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Obviously, I disagree. Pretty typical regular season by Minnesota standards. Also, I couldn't help but notice that you're conveniently leaving out the "first Tournament win for Minnesota in 23 years" part. I've challenged others to find even one other example of a coach getting fired coming off his best season for them, let alone the school's best season in 23 years. I'm still waiting for that corroborating example.
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I'm not from Minnesota, so I guess I don't have as high a tolerance for mediocrity as most on this board. Tubby did not do enough in his 6 years to warrant staying on for a 7th.
 


My guess is that this is wasted energy by a lot of folks on here. If USC wants him, they'll get him. It's the better job at this time. I think it would be a mistake to wait for Marshall. My gut says he would turn Minnesota down as well and, of course, that would really make the U look bad. What Minnesota really needs--regardless of the person's resume--is someone who has the type of personality that inspires players, inspires fans and ignites the masses. Some of you recall how Bill Musselman ignited a pretty dead fan base in the 1970s. For all of his faults, the guy was an unknown who had that rare ability to inspire.
 


Bad Gopher said:
Very impressed with the resume info posted by Gopher07 and others. I have no more concerns with his recruiting. Let's get him in here. I take full responsibility if it doesn't work out.
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Nice! :)

I would have taken responsibility for Ryan Saunders. I should have spoken sooner.

I'm onboard with Enfield.
 

Bad Gopher said:
Very impressed with the resume info posted by Gopher07 and others. I have no more concerns with his recruiting. Let's get him in here. I take full responsibility if it doesn't work out.
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You are a stand up guy, Bad. Somewhere this post will be filed, and show up again.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Neither am I. What else ya got?



I would argue that being one of the final 32 teams alive (i.e., among the top 10%) is by definition not mediocre.
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What about never finishing in the top half of the conference?

And people love to play what if's with tourney wins. What if the Gophers didn't get a favorable matchup against a depleted Pac-12 team with a coach that was on his way out?
 





MadtownGopher said:
What about never finishing in the top half of the conference?
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I don't really care all that much, to be honest. I care about getting in the Tournament and doing well there. If you give me the choice between winning the conference and losing in the Round of 32 or finishing 7th in the conference and going to the Sweet 16, I'll take the latter every time. Obviously, I'd prefer winning the conference and winning the national championship, but I'm not going to discount the ability to consistently get to the postseason and win games there just because he was unable to do better in the regular season.

MadtownGopher said:
What if the Gophers didn't get a favorable matchup against a depleted Pac-12 team with a coach that was on his way out?
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I, for one, will never apologize for any legitimate, non-cheating victory. Tubby shouldn't have had to either.
 

Well this thread quickly turned into a full-scale circle jerk featuring a number of highly experienced circle-jerkers
 

dpodoll68 said:
I would argue that being one of the final 32 teams alive (i.e., among the top 10%) is by definition not mediocre.
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I think his tenure was the definition of mediocre.

We got a layup with UCLA and quite honestly were probably the Indiana win away from not making it. But technically you are correct our finish position would not be considered mediocre.
 



PhillyGopher said:
Well this thread quickly turned into a full-scale circle jerk featuring a number of highly experienced circle-jerkers
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Again, blame them. I certainly did start anything and I certainly will not allow myself to be attacked without saying something. I'll stop responding as soon as they stop attacking me for having an opinion that differs from theirs and having the guts to stand behind it with facts, logic, and reasoning.
 

Back to the original topic of this thread................

Let's not discount the "lifestyle" issues in the potential move of Enfield to MN. Right now, he's on a beautiful campus in Florida. Is he willing to chuck all of that, and move to a cold-weather state with outdated or non-existent facilities, in return for a raise of xxx$.

I think we tend to assume that all coaches are mercenaries, who jump jobs at the drop of a hat for a better opportunity and more money. This guy could be different - or he could think that taking on the challenges of the MN job isn't worth the pay bump, and uprooting a family with 3 young children.
 

panolo said:
I think his tenure was the definition of mediocre.
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The funny thing is, I would've had no problem with them firing him after the 2011-12 season. You keep him on after consecutive 6-12 conference seasons only to fire him after his best Minnesota season and the school's best season in 23 years? Stupid, and the national media is right to point it out, despite the butthurtedness of many in our fan base.
 

dpodoll68 said:
I don't really care all that much, to be honest. I care about getting in the Tournament and doing well there. If you give me the choice between winning the conference and losing in the Round of 32 or finishing in 7th in the conference and going to the Sweet 16, I'll take the latter every time. Obviously, I'd prefer winning the conference and winning the national championship, but I'm not going to discount the ability to consistently get to the postseason and win games there just because he was unable to do better in the regular season.
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Haha you have got to be trolling with that. One more game in the NCAA tourney in exchange for a conference title? haha get out of here.
 

gopherskynet said:
Haha you have got to be trolling with that. One more game in the NCAA tourney in exchange for a conference title? haha get out of here.
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At Minnesota? Absolutely. At MSU or OSU, I'd say no because I'd have a virtual certainty that I could see my team make the 2nd weekend again in my lifetime, so I'd rather enjoy the conference title. Many people have lived entire lifetimes since Minnesota last made the 2nd weekend.
 

Back to Andy Enfield, enough with ego fueled playground battle.
 

Gopher Warrior said:
You explained 7th as Illinois or Purdue jumping the Gophers. The BTT's 9th seeded Minnesota Gophers fell behind Iowa.

Nonetheless, there is another post I am thinking of. I think it was closer to the October / November time frame.

It can be tough to search for stuff you said, dpo, because you have thousands of posts. For example, if I wanted to track down the times you incorrectly argued facts on Tubby's contract, it might take me a long time to find them all.

Or if I wanted to find the post where you said something like "never ever" and then repeated "ever" or "never" about 40 times in a post when telling someone that the U would never ever sell beer at TCF Bank stadium... I'm not sure how quickly I could do so.

No need to, though. You're an easy read.
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Speaking of false predictions remember that one time when you said Mbakwe had no chance of coming back?
 

What's Andy Enfield's position on Tubby's tenure?
 

dpodoll68 said:
The funny thing is, I would've had no problem with them firing him after the 2011-12 season. You keep him on after consecutive 6-12 conference seasons only to fire him after his best Minnesota season and the school's best season in 23 years? Stupid, and the national media is right to point it out, despite the butthurtedness of many in our fan base.
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Wait, what was our conference record this year? Oh yeah 8-10 with the best team we have had in 23 years, this was not our best season. Also I didn't know that conference record meant anything to you. I am sorry beating an overrated and equally uninspired UCLA team in the first round is not a golden pass on mismanaging the most talented team we have had in 20+ years.

I know I know I am just feeding the troll I am sorry, I am out.
 

PhillyGopher said:
Well this thread quickly turned into a full-scale circle jerk featuring a number of highly experienced circle-jerkers
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I'm in favor of the mods pruning these threads of all the circle jerking. It's the height of conceit that these windbags think we all enjoy their 3rd team debate meet.

Sorry, windbags. Nothing personal, but take it to the private message forum or grab your road dogs and head to Bogarts.
 


gopherskynet said:
Wait, what was our conference record this year? Oh yeah 8-10 with the best team we have had in 23 years, this was not our best season. Also I didn't know that conference record meant anything to you. I am sorry beating an overrated and equally uninspired UCLA team in the first round is not a golden pass on mismanaging the most talented team we have had in 20+ years.

I know I know I am just feeding the troll I am sorry, I am out.
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Not even close.
 

dpodoll68;694497 I would argue that being one of the final 32 teams alive (i.e. said:
Top five talent in the B1G this year.
Loss to depleted bad Northwestern team.
Loss to an average Illinois team at home.
Loss to below average Purdue team.
Loss to a bad Nebraska team.
Blow out loss at Iowa.
Blow out loss at Ohio State, close loss would not have been bad.
Took overtime to win at home against Iowa.
Took overtime to win at home against Wisconsin.
All down the stretch.

Mediocre is being nice, combined with the B1G records the previous two years I'm not sure mediocre is in the tailights even. It was nice to beat Wisconin even though they probably did not deserve it, Indiana was a good game, not much out there to hang your hat on.
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gopherskynet said:
this was not our best season
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Ever? No, I never said it was. In the last 23 years? Yes, yes it was.

gopherskynet said:
I know I know I am just feeding the troll I am sorry, I am out.
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Says the guy who registered this month for a joke name with a joke logo to participate in a joke thread and barely passed the double-digit post threshold.
 

I continue to place the possibility of Trevor Mbakwe being allowed another year by the NCAA at 2%, tops. More likely than an additional year being given is that the school winds up never even formally filing a request. They might as well go ahead and try it, but if someone from the U picks up the phone and talks over the details of the matter with a member of the Committee prior to filing, they may get a response along the lines of, "are you kidding me? Please don't waste our time." It would be great for Trevor and the school to have another year together, but folks shouldn't get their hopes up.
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Sorry 2%.
 

jovs said:
not much out there to hang your hat on.
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Sure, when you completely ignore making the Tournament and getting the program's first win there in 23 years - yeah, there's not much to hang your hat on.
 

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