Katz: U$C and Minnesota both showing strong interest in FGCU's Andy Enfield

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I made this point on another thread, but for people labeling him the "flavor of the month", he does have more NCAA tourney wins as a head coach in the last 6 years than Tubby had in his 6 year tenure at the U.
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
I made this point on another thread, but for people labeling him the "flavor of the month", he does have more NCAA tourney wins as a head coach in the last 6 years than Tubby had in his 6 year tenure at the U.
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Exactly. Can't do much worse than one win in 6 years at a Big Ten school. I think it's worth a shot.
 

howeda7 said:
Not true. A guy like Jim Larranaga won at George Mason for a long time. Yes, the Final Four run put him on the map, but he did it for a much longer period of time. Heck I'd rather go to that well and give Paul Hewitt another shot than roll the dice on Andy Enfield.
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True but larranaga is collecting social security and many on here would be concerned with his ability to relate to 16-20 yr olds.
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
I made this point on another thread, but for people labeling him the "flavor of the month", he does have more NCAA tourney wins as a head coach in the last 6 years than Tubby had in his 6 year tenure at the U.
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And absolutely nobody in the world of college basketball knew who he was 2 weeks ago.
 



G0 4 said:
True but larranaga is collecting social security and many on here would be concerned with his ability to relate to 16-20 yr olds.
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Seems to be working out fine for him. Either way, there are probably at least 10 mid-major guys I'd rather roll the dice on than Enfield.
 



westcoastgopher11 said:
And absolutely nobody in the world of college basketball knew who he was 2 weeks ago.
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This doesn't bother me in the least. Noone knew who Marshall was before his run this year either. Smart was an unknown until his FinalFour run.

There is not a Perfect coach available to the Gophers. I trust NT/Ellis to know what they are doing and find us a coach they feel can take this program to the next level for the long term. If it happens to be Enfield,great. I think he could do it, but thats just the opinion of a fan.
 



dpodoll68 said:
Are you serious? How about 0 wins in 0 appearances in forever?
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Which is why I said "can't do much worse..." Obviously you can do worse, but in a middle of the pack team in the best conference in the country, an NCAA tournament win every few years shouldn't be too much to be expected.
 


Gopher07 said:
There are a lot of styles in the B1G and each one can succeed given the right players (Indiana, Wisconsin, Michigan for example - all different styles, all successful in 2012/2013). Not concerned about style, more concerned about recruiting the type of players that can win in the style in the B1G
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Maybe Enfield and the Gophers could change the whole Big Ten style of play.:)
 

G0 4 said:
This doesn't bother me in the least. Noone knew who Marshall was before his run this year either. Smart was an unknown until his FinalFour run.

There is not a Perfect coach available to the Gophers. I trust NT/Ellis to know what they are doing and find us a coach they feel can take this program to the next level for the long term. If it happens to be Enfield,great. I think he could do it, but thats just the opinion of a fan.
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My preference is someone with more head coaching experience than leading a bunch of nobodies to 2nd place in the Atlantic Sun.
 



westcoastgopher11 said:
If FGCU hadn't beaten Georgetown he wouldn't be mentioned for this job, that's a fact.
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Again, you would have said the same about Shaka 2 years ago, Miller this year, Brad Stevens 4 years ago, etc. When you aren't an elite program (like us) you have to be willing to take a risk if you want high reward. Enfield has worked under some great coaches and took a school no one had ever heard of to the Sweet 16. If you aren't even open to the possibility of hiring him then you won't be happy with our hire no matter what. We are going to hire a "no body" like Enfield, Buzz Williams isn't coming to the rescue.
 

Tater said:
I disagree this would be Monson all over again since a strong argument could be made that Monson didn't really build Gonzaga into the giant killer it was--he just maintained it for a short while. Here, it appears Enfield has actually created the FGCU program and excellence and from watching the games, the success did not appear to be the result of a single superstar mid-major player. It seems like the system works against high-major teams. I still think it is a bit of a risk, but what coaching hire isn't?
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Can you talk a little more about Enfield's building of the program? Not disagreeing with you, but he's only been there two years. You compared him favorably to Dan Monson, who was head coach at Gonzaga for two years but was also as an assistant there before that. From a superficial look, Enfield seems to be using a lot of players he inherited. But maybe that's incorrect.
 

G0 4 said:
This doesn't bother me in the least. Noone knew who Marshall was before his run this year either. Smart was an unknown until his FinalFour run.

There is not a Perfect coach available to the Gophers. I trust NT/Ellis to know what they are doing and find us a coach they feel can take this program to the next level for the long term. If it happens to be Enfield,great. I think he could do it, but thats just the opinion of a fan.
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Not true. Marshall was a highly successful and sought after small major guy at Winthrop with NCAA tourney wins before he went to Wichita. He is well known even by fairly casual basketball fans. Way above Enfeld in known quantity arena. By the way, I think Marsall may be doing the best of the hot guys at managing his career. Small major, to larger and tougher competition, and when he is ready, he will get picked up by a BCS school and have solid experience behind him.
 

westcoastgopher11 said:
If FGCU hadn't beaten Georgetown he wouldn't be mentioned for this job, that's a fact.
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You could say that about anyone..
If Wichita St. hadn't won their first round game he wouldn't be on our wish list either.
I mean guys like Grant and Pastner were considered, how many NCAA wins did they have this year?
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
I made this point on another thread, but for people labeling him the "flavor of the month", he does have more NCAA tourney wins as a head coach in the last 6 years than Tubby had in his 6 year tenure at the U.
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tubbys single tourney win at the U is better than enfields zero wins at the U.

comparing tubbys time at MN to enfield at FGCU is not relevant and pretty dumb
 

Hates Monikers said:
Can you talk a little more about Enfield's building of the program? Not disagreeing with you, but he's only been there two years. You compared him favorably to Dan Monson, who was head coach at Gonzaga for two years but was also as an assistant there before that. From a superficial look, Enfield seems to be using a lot of players he inherited. But maybe that's incorrect.
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The Eagles kicked off in the A Sun in 2007/2008; their records:

10-21 (6-10)
11-20 (7-13)
8-21 (5-15)
10-20 (7-13)
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15-17 (8-10) (Andy Enfield's first year)
26-11 (13-5)

If he's using inherited players, he's certainly getting a LOT more out of them.
 

lakesgopher said:
tubbys single tourney win at the U is better than enfields zero wins at the U.

comparing tubbys time at MN to enfield at FGCU is not relevant and pretty dumb
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I must admit to being dumbfounded by this post.
 

Gopher07 said:
The Eagles kicked off in the A Sun in 2007/2008; their records:

10-21 (6-10)
11-20 (7-13)
8-21 (5-15)
10-20 (7-13)
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15-17 (8-10) (Andy Enfield's first year)
26-11 (13-5)

If he's using inherited players, he's certainly getting a LOT more out of them.
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Exactly what I thought when I looked at that. Sure, he doesn't have his own players at FGCU, but if he can get that many more wins with the same guys, it tells a lot about a coach.
 

dpodoll68 said:
List them.
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In no particular order:

Chris Mooney-Richmond
Keith Dambrot-Akron
Chris Mack-Xavier
Tommy Amaker-Harvard
Paul Hewitt-George Mason
Ben Jacobsen-N. Iowa
Greg McDermott-Creighton
Anthony Evans-Norfolk St.
Dave Rose-BYU
Kermit Davis-MTSU
 

MadtownGopher said:
Again, you would have said the same about Shaka 2 years ago, Miller this year, Brad Stevens 4 years ago, etc. When you aren't an elite program (like us) you have to be willing to take a risk if you want high reward. Enfield has worked under some great coaches and took a school no one had ever heard of to the Sweet 16. If you aren't even open to the possibility of hiring him then you won't be happy with our hire no matter what. We are going to hire a "no body" like Enfield, Buzz Williams isn't coming to the rescue.
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I'm trying to make sense of this.

And ya no s*** Buzz isn't coming here, ffs I'm one of the more realistic people here in terms of the attractiveness of this program.
 

G0 4 said:
You could say that about anyone..
If Wichita St. hadn't won their first round game he wouldn't be on our wish list either.
I mean guys like Grant and Pastner were considered, how many NCAA wins did they have this year?
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Wrong. So wrong.

The guy has been approached about high level jobs before, and his record is pretty damn good.
 

howeda7 said:
In no particular order:

Chris Mooney-Richmond
Keith Dambrot-Akron
Chris Mack-Xavier
Tommy Amaker-Harvard
Paul Hewitt-George Mason
Ben Jacobsen-N. Iowa
Greg McDermott-Creighton
Anthony Evans-Norfolk St.
Dave Rose-BYU
Kermit Davis-MTSU
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You just look at all the mid-majors in the tournament field with winning records and decide they were better suited for coaching?
 

This guy sounds like another Monson.

Please tell me we didn't fire Tubby for another Monson.
 

mcal24 said:
You just look at all the mid-majors in the tournament field with winning records and decide they were better suited for coaching?
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Several of those teams didn't make the tournament this year. Nice try. But they all have more proven track records IMO.
 

Laziest post ever (made by many): "He'd be another Monson."

Either post some evidence and reasoning behind that statement or stop wasting our time with crap like that. Just because he is a mid-major coach doesn't mean he is going to be exactly like Monson. Not to mention he wouldn't have to clean up one of the worst academic scandals in the history of the NCAA.
 

howeda7 said:
Chris Mooney-Richmond Pass
Keith Dambrot-Akron I'd think about it.
Chris Mack-Xavier Pass, regressing post Miller.
Tommy Amaker-Harvard Pass, sloppy seconds from Michigan, not a bad coach but not here.
Paul Hewitt-George Mason Pass, regressing after Larranaga
Ben Jacobsen-N. Iowa Pass, window closed should've jumped after beating Kansas
Greg McDermott-Creighton Pass, failed at ISU, doing well because his son happens to be an all-american
Anthony Evans-Norfolk St. Pass
Dave Rose-BYU I'd hire him, but getting a Mormon away from BYU is probably tough.
Kermit Davis-MTSUPass
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To be honest considering the options out there at this point- I'd take Enfield. This is assuming we can't get Marshall (getting more pricey by the day)or Williams (can't believe that possible) or that Teague can't swallow his pride and get Flip back in the picture.

The thing that grabs me about Enfield is the joy and fun that his players play with and the excitement they showed for him. They spoke of how much they believe in him and his system. That appears to be the antithesis of Tubby's years here. So with the current field and odds - I guess I'd take him and live with it- even though he is high risk.
 

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