Joey King: Is he a liability on the court?

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Congrats to Joey on his steady improvement, and representing well, as the lone native son on the team!

And next year as well as things now stand. Sort of depressing considering the home-raised talent over the last several years.

As for Joey, I hope he gets a lot stronger for next year. IMO, that's his main weakness now. He gets pushed out of position; he'll get overpowered on defense; and I think that's why he loses so many rebounds he gets his hands on. In no way do I think he'll be the same caliber of player, but there's a pretty amazing set of photos of Nick Stauskus out there. The first is Stauskus as a scrawny freshman, and I assume the second one is of him this year. The difference is amazing, and if Joey can transform himself even half of that, he'll be a nice player for us over the next two years. Certainly isn't going to be a liability.
 

This thread and many others like it is the problem with fans in this state. A player sucks until proven otherwise. Every player has a role on this team whether one guy is scoring 15 a night or another is scoring 0 and contributing in other ways. At some point this season every player that gets minutes on this roster has come up big for us. No reason to slander one guy in a team sport. Everyone is important.
 

Oh how quickly people forget Rodney's NIT run of excellence. How did he do the year after?
 

Oh how quickly people forget Rodney's NIT run of excellence. How did he do the year after?
I don't think anyone is trumpeting Joey as being the next great mn pf... What I, at least, am saying is he is getting minutes because we don't have much better to throw out there as well as he isn't half as bad as many shave said he is. This has been my opinion on Joey since day one.
 



This thread and many others like it is the problem with fans in this state. A player sucks until proven otherwise. Every player has a role on this team whether one guy is scoring 15 a night or another is scoring 0 and contributing in other ways. At some point this season every player that gets minutes on this roster has come up big for us. No reason to slander one guy in a team sport. Everyone is important.

I have been quietly critical of King, but I am seeing a B1G PF develop. We would be done playing this year without him. That is a fact.
 

He is looking more and more like the most improved player on the team, he will always struggle against the bigger more athletic power forwards in the B1G but he is developing into a bit of a scorer, there will be times when he is over matched but I think he will help the team quite a bit next year.
 

Joey and Martin > Otto and Joey. If Buggs develops we will have a much better depth situation going into next year. If we do end up signing another big Pitino could get creative with his lineups.
 

Joey King will have a successful career here or die trying. He is probably one of the hardest workers on the team and leaves it all on the floor.

Agree he needs to get stronger and better on D, but I see no reason why he can't. He will put in the work to do it.
 



Joey has brought a lot to this team. Hits open shots plays good defense works very very hard. Nice pickup and a great role player. He knows his role
 

I believe Joey is just a sophomore, so there is still time to grow. There are games where I have been frustrated with him, but in watching him in person on Sunday, he had a very competitive look in his eye. I know he had one of his better games, so it's easier to get into the game, but I thin he ends up being a nice contributor. I'm not saying a star, but more like 6th man of the year consideration before he graduates. There is something there, he wants to win and will work hard.
 

King will always have his games where the 3pt shot is falling and the post up is working. But he will always be a defensive liability and he will have trouble keeping strong guys off the boards. It will be up to the coach to decide how much he will sacrifice one for the other. If King was actually 6'9" and 225 he would be a decent sized so pf in today's big ten.
 

blitz;

You numbnuts guys are really getting hard to stomach.
 



I believe Joey is just a sophomore, so there is still time to grow. There are games where I have been frustrated with him, but in watching him in person on Sunday, he had a very competitive look in his eye. I know he had one of his better games, so it's easier to get into the game, but I thin he ends up being a nice contributor. I'm not saying a star, but more like 6th man of the year consideration before he graduates. There is something there, he wants to win and will work hard.

'There is something there' huh? Good eye. You and march madness should roll out a scouting service.
 

Bottom line, Joey is a key cog on this team. And this is a top 50 national team, which is not chopped liver. King has no apologizing to do; he's getting a lot out of what God gave him. He's a skilled player.
 

Bottom line, Joey is a key cog on this team. And this is a top 50 national team, which is not chopped liver. King has no apologizing to do; he's getting a lot out of what God gave him. He's a skilled player.

Concise and right on the money
 

Is he somehow a 'liability', no, of course he's not.

The thing which has struck me about Joey King right from the first moment I saw him and became aware his existence all the way back in Maui, was how hard he worked out there on the floor, always, busting his tail in spite any his perceived shortcomings, and no matter how he might screw up at any given moment or time, how the fact is he he fought and continued fighting.

There was a thread post-Maui, asking how we felt about this team in the aftermath, and I said the two players I was most impressed with were Joey King and Maverick Ahanmisi, simply due their relentless effort always on the court, and in spite their deficiencies.

And what the f*ck do I know, likely nothing, as I coach 4th and 5th grade ball, but how I do try and and coach within that realm, is that those boys try the hardest, will always play first and most. Those willing play the game the right way, pass, pass, pass, pass, and pass, until you find that inevitable open man and let him take his, and then you crash the boards in case he misses, and god granted you get the rebound, and then you just reset, and pass around all over again. You share, otherwise get off my floor, and try out for the Globetrotters if you want to do that selfish isolation ****, and best of luck with that, because you will not ever play for me... and I've lost some quite young talented boys due to that, boys thinking their natural and inborn talent would and will always be enough to skate them by, and how Christ, despite their youth, some these boys can *really* fricken play, but how that don't mean whit to me, as singular talent is just is, and lest you can or will play within the construct and concept of a 'team', then you will not play for me, so get the hell off my floor, and I've had do that to my own son too.

Give me always the boys who play hardest and play the game as they've been asked and taught to do so, and there would be one Joey King, as there is hardly child could play harder.
 

I love these players like this, and to the originator this thread, you trying to find 'liability', well no, it not lies there, and never will.
 

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