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mcal24 said:
What if Iowa loses 2 of 3, and then goes one and done in the NTT. They would be 20-12 (9-10), be in a severe slump, and have just one or two impressive wins. Are they still in the tourney?
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Would be interesting if that was the case, they would maybe still get in because of the way the bubble is right now but I doubt that scenario will play out anyway with 2 of their last 3 against Purdue and Illinois and both at home.
 


Gophers still in, will be interesting to see what changes this week with Gophers being off.
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So Lunardi says were in and Palm says were out? Need the next two, three if we want to feel safe
 


If we win the next 2 I think we are in.

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Arkansas fan here. Hope to see Minnesota in the tourney. Think we are helping each other out right now during this point of the season. Go gophers!
 

I don't see why Cal is in ahead of us at this point. Higher RPI than Cal, Dayton and Mizzou at this point.
 



Was digging through old posts, but couldn't find it.

What's the site that aggregates all of the NCAA field projections? It looks like a big spreadsheet. For example, "Gophers are picked to make it in 64 or 72 projections, including CBS, Yahoo, etc, etc".

Thanks.
 


BarnBoy said:
Was digging through old posts, but couldn't find it.

What's the site that aggregates all of the NCAA field projections? It looks like a big spreadsheet. For example, "Gophers are picked to make it in 64 or 72 projections, including CBS, Yahoo, etc, etc".

Thanks.
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bracketmatrix.com
 






station19 said:
Looks like 4 16's, 2 11's and 2 12's are in a play-in game.

What is the criteria for who plays the play-in games?
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The 16's are conference tournament winners, so we'd only be eligible for the 11 and 12 seeds.
 

MadtownGopher said:
The 16's are conference tournament winners, so we'd only be eligible for the 11 and 12 seeds.
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I understand that but why aren't they the 16's and 15's? Why 2 11's and 2 12's ........instead of 4 12's?

Are they trying to include 4 conference champs and 4 at-large teams? I like the auto-bids but to me all the 15 and 16's should play the play-in. If you seed teams - just plain seed them. The question mark teams should be the weaker ranked teams.
 

MadtownGopher said:
The 16's are conference tournament winners, so we'd only be eligible for the 11 and 12 seeds.
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Is it fair to say the "last four in" play for the last 11 seed and first 12 seed? In other words, the remaining three 12 seeds are all from the best non-big school automatic qualifiers (the Green Bay/Harvards of the world) and the top three 11 seeds are all from the at large pool?
 

station19 said:
I understand that but why aren't they the 16's and 15's? Why 2 11's and 2 12's ........instead of 4 12's?

Are they trying to include 4 conference champs and 4 at-large teams? I like the auto-bids but to me all the 15 and 16's should play the play-in. If you seed teams - just plain seed them. The question mark teams should be the weaker ranked teams.
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Yes.
 

MadtownGopher said:
Yes.
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Makes no sense. If the whole idea is to seed then the lowest ranked teams should be in the play-in.

Next year in the BTT(with the addition of Rutgers and Maryland) will higher seeded teams get a first round bye or will some of the lower seeded teams get a bye instead?
 


station19 said:
Makes no sense. If the whole idea is to seed then the lowest ranked teams should be in the play-in.
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It's nonsensical, but they're catering to the smaller schools by giving the appearance that an auto-bid from a low-quality conference isn't automatically a sentence to win 7 games to win the national title. You're right - it should be all 15s and 16s who play in the "First Four" games, but it's a compromise and concession to the smaller schools.
 

dpodoll68 said:
It's nonsensical, but they're catering to the smaller schools by giving the appearance that an auto-bid from a low-quality conference isn't automatically a sentence to win 7 games to win the national title. You're right - it should be all 15s and 16s who play in the "First Four" games, but it's a compromise and concession to the smaller schools.
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I can't say that I'm particularly outraged that the 34th through 37th best at-large teams need to play an extra game. You probably also potentially get a more interesting game or two than you would have otherwise if you only matched up 15 and 16 seeds from small conferences.
 

dpodoll68 said:
It's nonsensical, but they're catering to the smaller schools by giving the appearance that an auto-bid from a low-quality conference isn't automatically a sentence to win 7 games to win the national title. You're right - it should be all 15s and 16s who play in the "First Four" games, but it's a compromise and concession to the smaller schools.
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The fact that UC-Irvine, North Carolina Central, and Alabama State type schools get to play in the tournament at all should be compromise enough.

It's about the money. Minnesota vs Missouri or Oregon vs. Tennessee at least draws some interest. A 16 vs. 16 matchup absolutely does not.
 

One of the best things about the tournament is the auto-bids for small conferences. Everyone gets a chance to play their-selves into the tournament. Having said that, once you are in you shouldn't get special treatment unless you've earned it.

If you aren't going to have the lowest ranked teams play-in, then there should be a rotation amongst all seeds......ie the four #1 seeds meet in a play-in game at some point.:rolleyes:......what are the chances of that?
 

golfing18now said:
I can't say that I'm particularly outraged that the 34th through 37th best at-large teams need to play an extra game. You probably also potentially get a more interesting game or two than you would have otherwise if you only matched up 15 and 16 seeds from small conferences.
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Agreed to the bold. There may be times when I feel like this play-in structure is unfair or that a team got unfairly left out on the bubble. However, when we are letting in every division winner and 37 teams that did not win divisions, anybody who either gets left out or has to play the play-in game has no one to blame but themselves for not taking care of business and grabbing a few extra wins. Any team with anything close to a legitimate claim as a championship contender is already in the tournament.
 


station19 said:
One of the best things about the tournament is the auto-bids for small conferences. Everyone gets a chance to play their-selves into the tournament. Having said that, once you are in you shouldn't get special treatment unless you've earned it.

If you aren't going to have the lowest ranked teams play-in, then there should be a rotation amongst all seeds......ie the four #1 seeds meet in a play-in game at some point.:rolleyes:......what are the chances of that?
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I'm not going to lose sleep over it one way or another, but I'm not sure that I would categorize any team that gets hit with a 15 or 16 seed and needs to face a one or two seed as special treatment. The last four at-large teams, three of which wouldn't have been in the tournament five years ago, now get to face another mediocre team and then potentially a five seed, followed by a four seed, barring upsets. I would argue that is a better recipe for a deep run -- see VCU.
 

howeda7 said:
He now has against Tennessee on the 11 line. I'm not sure why, as we are the last team in and they're next-to-last. Also, the winner would play Iowa, which I'm pretty sure is not allowed. Either way, just glad to be in at this point. Win 2 more and pray.
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Whether it's allowed or not, I don't know but I haven't seen two teams from the same conference play each other in the first round proper. Either he made a mistake with his placement of Iowa or with his placement of Minnesota. Odd that he didn't catch that.
 

golfing18now said:
I'm not going to lose sleep over it one way or another, but I'm not sure that I would categorize any team that gets hit with a 15 or 16 seed and needs to face a one or two seed as special treatment. The last four at-large teams, three of which wouldn't have been in the tournament five years ago, now get to face another mediocre team and then potentially a five seed, followed by a four seed, barring upsets. I would argue that is a better recipe for a deep run -- see VCU.
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Bottom line; there are too many D 1 basketball schools(351) and conferences. I still see a split coming in both BB and FB for small and large programs/conferences.
 

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