Gophers-Wildcats Game/Postgame Thread

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Northwestern doesn't make the dance. It actually has a calming affect.
 

BigGopherFan said:
Wonderful start and then, wow, North freaking Western comes back and starts kicking the crap out of Minnesota. This is exactly why I hate watching this particular team. I have such resent for Tubby Smith and his recruits. Pathetic. Yes, the sky is falling.
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You say you're done, but here you are again. Now do you understand why people tire of your weak act? Tubby and his recruits....................WON! How do you like them apples?
 

Sid Hartman said:
This team is so messed up and it starts with Tubby.

>Every time we play Northwestern they throw this 1-3-1 zone against us and every time it looks like this is the first time we have ever seen it. The guards are so indecisive. Penetrate and get the ball to the big or the wings in the corner

>Rodney: Seriously jump shot after jump shot?

>Mav, Ingram, Oto and Chip: They might be nice guys but Tubby needs to stop wasting scholarships for late in the recruiting cycle kids

>I know Andrew has 2 fouls, but if you are going to sit in zone and live and die from shooting 3's I would hope he would be smart enough not to pick up another foul
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I have to disagree. For a lot of the game in our second matchup with them, we were destroying their zone.
 




RoyalGopher said:
I have to disagree. For a lot of the game in our second matchup with them, we were destroying their zone.
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Not sure I would use "destroying". There were still spells where we would pass it around way outside, no penetration, and a lot of standing around. Especially in the first half after NU caught up, but did get better. If we had been cold shooting 3's, it would have been ugly. I loved how Andre pushed the ball though. Been brought out a lot, but I wish they would play faster and more wide open.

Thought Dakich was fine today. He analyzed how to beat their zone pretty well. Was critical in an insightful way. His comments about Tubby needing to put the lads in a hotel for a home game and his pointing out our bench's reaction to EE were excellent.
 

sal said:
We have just clubbed to death the cute little seal that is Northwestern. In slow motion. In front of everyone. No one was pulling for us today. Northwestern would have been a great story that makes you warm and fuzzy, everyone loves the ” never been to the tourney” angle but…we beat the little seal to death on national TV. Let’s go get Michigan.
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Thanks, sal, for the post of the year.

Tried to attach a photo of a seal pelt we obtained at the BTT, but I'm experiencing technical difficulties. You'll just have to use your imaginations.
 

An insult isn't an insult if one doesn't know what an insult is ...
 

O'Brien irritates the hell out of me with his glibness...he was also totally unaware of Shurna having missed a 1 n 1 FT in the 2nd half as he presumed it was a FT after a basket and foul. He was also non chalant on how quickly they called the Jump balls when our player just needed an fraction of a second longer to regain control. I thought the Gophers had to fight the refs the entire 2nd half..very one sided game as they let NW get away with massive bumps and hacks on our shooters...dakich eventually pointed out one of them on a Austin bank shot. Yet, NW got ticky tack foul calls several times in the 2nd half, notably Crawford and their PG who through up junk and got bailed out...hopefully the calls will even out tomorrow.
 



Also noticed that neither O'Brien or Dakich picked up on the Gophers changing from zone to man in the 2nd half and then O'brien marveled at how NW had suddenly abandoned the three point shot...DUHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
 

Yes - Dave O'Brien tends to speak accurately about 80% of the time for each game that he does. He tends to just make stuff up. Too bad all announcers can't be at the quality level of say a Jay Bilas ... but that's just not possible is it?
 

Moses87 said:
Also noticed that neither O'Brien or Dakich picked up on the Gophers changing from zone to man in the 2nd half and then O'brien marveled at how NW had suddenly abandoned the three point shot...DUHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
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That was pretty bad. Seemed like they were not watching the game.
 

Watching the Purdue/Nebraska game it seems that DD and O'Brien are trying hard to now give the Gophers credit...
 



notagopherfan said:
whose to say they can't win the Big Ten Tournament and get in the big dance?
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They got in with 21 wins in 2009-10. If they get to the Big Ten Championship game that would put them at 22 wins. Why wouldn't that be enough?
 

Sid Hartman said:
>Mav, Ingram, Oto and Chip: They might be nice guys but Tubby needs to stop wasting scholarships for late in the recruiting cycle kids
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Hasn't Chip been the MVP of about 5 games this year including dropping a career high 20 last time out against Nebraska? He's only a Sophomore. I also think Oto will be a good player.
 

HOOP DREAMS said:
They got in with 21 wins in 2009-10. If they get to the Big Ten Championship game that would put them at 22 wins. Why wouldn't that be enough?
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If you go 6-12 in your conference, you need to win the conference tournament to get a bid.

Simple as that.

No team has ever gotten an at-large berth at 6-12, nor should they.
 


Art Vandelay said:
If you go 6-12 in your conference, you need to win the conference tournament to get a bid.

Simple as that.

No team has ever gotten an at-large berth at 6-12, nor should they.
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And now you're going to tell me there's no Santa Claus?
 


sal said:
We have just clubbed to death the cute little seal that is Northwestern. In slow motion. In front of everyone. No one was pulling for us today. Northwestern would have been a great story that makes you warm and fuzzy, everyone loves the ” never been to the tourney” angle but…we beat the little seal to death on national TV. Let’s go get Michigan.
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Good stuff Sal.
 



sal said:
We have just clubbed to death the cute little seal that is Northwestern. In slow motion. In front of everyone. No one was pulling for us today. Northwestern would have been a great story that makes you warm and fuzzy, everyone loves the ” never been to the tourney” angle but…we beat the little seal to death on national TV. Let’s go get Michigan.
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Well played.... Well played.... Best laugh of the day.
 

I was really pissed off at the officiating watching this game. At first it was just a couple of ticky tack of the ball fouls called against the Gophers, but then it seemed to snowball in to everything being called at one end of the floor and nothing on the other end. A good example of this was the Joe Coleman "jump ball" call when we had just witnessed a touch foul on the other end against the Gophers. Then in overtime, the officials paraded Northwestern to the line calling a touch foul after touch foul while then calling Austin Hollins rebound and reach in by Northwestern a jump ball...less contact than that had consistently been called a foul on the Gophers.

I liked Dakich on commentary and am surprised he's getting grief in this thread. The reaction to Eliason coming to the bench was interesting because of the lack of energy on the bench in such a close game. I also like how he pointed out how to attack the zone and gave credit to Coleman for doing so (and then also pointing out Joe messing up plays).

Andre Hollins had a very good game scoring the basketball and I think his floater in the lane in OT was probably the play of the game. It was nice to see Welch hit that 3 in OT because I felt like he was having a real rough game prior to that.

Execution in OT was again a problem for the Gophers: Chip Armelin made me want to pull my hair out. The most egregious of Chips mistakes was when he got the ball pushed ahead to him on the break after Rodney's steal with the Gophers up 3. Because he has NO RIGHT HAND, he completely passes up an easy layup (or foul at worst) to try to get to the left side of the basket to lay it in with his strong hand...and we end up with no points on a play that should have essentially ended the game. Then, with the Gophers up 3 late, Julian Welch somehow allowed himself to get tied up in the backcourt with like a 5 second difference between game clock and shot clock. These are the types of plays (in addition to Chip's missed layup and subsequent foul of Northwestern's best shooter) that can kill a team.

I wanted to see Northwestern make the tournament, but I also wanted them to deserve it. There record against the RPI top 50 combined withe their losing conference record made me a lot less interested in their story than I would have been if they had a more impressive resume and the bubble wasn't filled with garbage teams.
 

EG#9 said:
I was really pissed off at the officiating watching this game. At first it was just a couple of ticky tack of the ball fouls called against the Gophers, but then it seemed to snowball in to everything being called at one end of the floor and nothing on the other end. A good example of this was the Joe Coleman "jump ball" call when we had just witnessed a touch foul on the other end against the Gophers. Then in overtime, the officials paraded Northwestern to the line calling a touch foul after touch foul while then calling Austin Hollins rebound and reach in by Northwestern a jump ball...less contact than that had consistently been called a foul on the Gophers.

I liked Dakich on commentary and am surprised he's getting grief in this thread. The reaction to Eliason coming to the bench was interesting because of the lack of energy on the bench in such a close game. I also like how he pointed out how to attack the zone and gave credit to Coleman for doing so (and then also pointing out Joe messing up plays).

Andre Hollins had a very good game scoring the basketball and I think his floater in the lane in OT was probably the play of the game. It was nice to see Welch hit that 3 in OT because I felt like he was having a real rough game prior to that.

Execution in OT was again a problem for the Gophers: Chip Armelin made me want to pull my hair out. The most egregious of Chips mistakes was when he got the ball pushed ahead to him on the break after Rodney's steal with the Gophers up 3. Because he has NO RIGHT HAND, he completely passes up an easy layup (or foul at worst) to try to get to the left side of the basket to lay it in with his strong hand...and we end up with no points on a play that should have essentially ended the game. Then, with the Gophers up 3 late, Julian Welch somehow allowed himself to get tied up in the backcourt with like a 5 second difference between game clock and shot clock. These are the types of plays (in addition to Chip's missed layup and subsequent foul of Northwestern's best shooter) that can kill a team.

I wanted to see Northwestern make the tournament, but I also wanted them to deserve it. There record against the RPI top 50 combined withe their losing conference record made me a lot less interested in their story than I would have been if they had a more impressive resume and the bubble wasn't filled with garbage teams.
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i'm with you EG #9. These are potentially game losing plays. I will say though.... tonight... NW crapped the bed worse than we normally do.
 

EG#9 said:
I was really pissed off at the officiating watching this game. At first it was just a couple of ticky tack of the ball fouls called against the Gophers, but then it seemed to snowball in to everything being called at one end of the floor and nothing on the other end. A good example of this was the Joe Coleman "jump ball" call when we had just witnessed a touch foul on the other end against the Gophers. Then in overtime, the officials paraded Northwestern to the line calling a touch foul after touch foul while then calling Austin Hollins rebound and reach in by Northwestern a jump ball...less contact than that had consistently been called a foul on the Gophers.

I liked Dakich on commentary and am surprised he's getting grief in this thread. The reaction to Eliason coming to the bench was interesting because of the lack of energy on the bench in such a close game. I also like how he pointed out how to attack the zone and gave credit to Coleman for doing so (and then also pointing out Joe messing up plays).

Andre Hollins had a very good game scoring the basketball and I think his floater in the lane in OT was probably the play of the game. It was nice to see Welch hit that 3 in OT because I felt like he was having a real rough game prior to that.

Execution in OT was again a problem for the Gophers: Chip Armelin made me want to pull my hair out. The most egregious of Chips mistakes was when he got the ball pushed ahead to him on the break after Rodney's steal with the Gophers up 3. Because he has NO RIGHT HAND, he completely passes up an easy layup (or foul at worst) to try to get to the left side of the basket to lay it in with his strong hand...and we end up with no points on a play that should have essentially ended the game. Then, with the Gophers up 3 late, Julian Welch somehow allowed himself to get tied up in the backcourt with like a 5 second difference between game clock and shot clock. These are the types of plays (in addition to Chip's missed layup and subsequent foul of Northwestern's best shooter) that can kill a team.

I wanted to see Northwestern make the tournament, but I also wanted them to deserve it. There record against the RPI top 50 combined withe their losing conference record made me a lot less interested in their story than I would have been if they had a more impressive resume and the bubble wasn't filled with garbage teams.
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I agree with everything you said. Not sure what was more frustrating, the officiating or Chip's lack of a right hand. I've been a big Chip backer and think he needs to play more, but either needs to develop his weak hand, or pull the ball out and reset.

I feel bad for Northwestern. The look on Bill Carmody's face at the end made me a bit sad. We all know how crushing defeats like that feel. I wish they could have drawn Illinois so I could have cheered for them. Regardless if they deserved it or not, it would have been nice to see them make it in.
 


Art Vandelay said:
I believe Iowa did awhile back as a #6 seed.
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Looks like you're correct Art. Only once has a Big Ten team ever won four games in four days en route to a Big Ten tournament championship. Coincidentally, it was Iowa who accomplished this feat in 2001 as a No. 6 seed by beating Northwestern, Ohio State, Penn State and Indiana.
 

BigGopherFan said:
Wonderful start and then, wow, North freaking Western comes back and starts kicking the crap out of Minnesota. This is exactly why I hate watching this particular team. I have such resent for Tubby Smith and his recruits. Pathetic. Yes, the sky is falling.
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Yeah, Northwestern kicked the crap out of us. I am so embarrassed by this first round victory. I would hate it if tomorrow, Michigan kicks the crap out of us like NU did and we win our way into the semifinals. I am as critical of this team as anyone else on the board, but don't whine about games that we win.
 

BigGopherFan said:
Wonderful start and then, wow, North freaking Western comes back and starts kicking the crap out of Minnesota. This is exactly why I hate watching this particular team. I have such resent for Tubby Smith and his recruits. Pathetic. Yes, the sky is falling.
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And you wonder why people can't stand you...:rolleyes:
 

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