Gophers open as 8 point underdogs at TCU

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MNbornFrog said:
I would have to disagree about Mich St. They have a good D but TCU has a better defense than Michigan St as we will prove Saturday. The Big 10 defenses pad their stats all year playing pedestrian offenses. The Big 10 is the last conf to offensively evolve and it the reason it will be left out of the college playoff. Whisky hung 55pts on everybody in the Big 10 until they played us in the Rose and struggled to get 20. It took Lavion Bell 100 carries to get 100yrds on us in the BWW Bowl and Cobb isn't better than him. Oregon walked all over Mich St in the 2nd half. The Big 12 is the best offensive conf in the country. The Frogs just happen to have the worst O in the conf the last 2 year in my opinion.
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LeVeon Bell averaged 4.5 YPC in that game. Some pretty tough sledding.

Bell averaged 4.7 YPC that season. Last season, Cobb averaged 5.1 YPC (and 6.8 so far this year).
 

I don't think we will win so I don't want to get in too much of a pissing match with the TCU guys, but their defense is not better than MSU's. You could have put anybody's offense in the NCAA on that MSU defense last year and they would have won 6 games in any conference.
 


MNbornFrog said:
I would have to disagree about Mich St. They have a good D but TCU has a better defense than Michigan St as we will prove Saturday. The Big 10 defenses pad their stats all year playing pedestrian offenses. The Big 10 is the last conf to offensively evolve and it the reason it will be left out of the college playoff. Whisky hung 55pts on everybody in the Big 10 until they played us in the Rose and struggled to get 20. It took Lavion Bell 100 carries to get 100yrds on us in the BWW Bowl and Cobb isn't better than him. Oregon walked all over Mich St in the 2nd half. The Big 12 is the best offensive conf in the country. The Frogs just happen to have the worst O in the conf the last 2 year in my opinion.
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Finally, the Colonel Jessup moment. Like I said, delusional.

The thin veneer of civility will be shredded if we pull out the upset Saturday.

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Back to the topic at hand, I saw the line at +16 about an hour ago (Bovada). Finally had the courage to hit it, and I pounded it hard. Hopefully I'm right (and not sweating it out, as the most important thing is the win!)
 

MNbornFrog said:
I would have to disagree about Mich St. They have a good D but TCU has a better defense than Michigan St as we will prove Saturday. The Big 10 defenses pad their stats all year playing pedestrian offenses. The Big 10 is the last conf to offensively evolve and it the reason it will be left out of the college playoff. Whisky hung 55pts on everybody in the Big 10 until they played us in the Rose and struggled to get 20. It took Lavion Bell 100 carries to get 100yrds on us in the BWW Bowl and Cobb isn't better than him. Oregon walked all over Mich St in the 2nd half. The Big 12 is the best offensive conf in the country. The Frogs just happen to have the worst O in the conf the last 2 year in my opinion.
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Keep dreaming, Froggy.
 

Spoofin said:
We get it. You love Wisconsin.
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You're right, but his point is still true. Wisconsin averaged 4.9 yards a carry that game. Ball and Clay combined to rush for 208 yards on 33 carries (6.3 yards a carry).
 

fryguy22 said:
Back to the topic at hand, I saw the line at +16 about an hour ago (Bovada). Finally had the courage to hit it, and I pounded it hard. Hopefully I'm right (and not sweating it out, as the most important thing is the win!)
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If the Gophers can't cover 16 then it's going to be a long, long season.
 



maroon and gold said:
If the Gophers can't cover 16 then it's going to be a long, long season.
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Eh - it's just one game. I could easily see a 34-17 final, and I still wouldn't budge on my 6 or 7 win prediction. I am shocked, though, that the line is that high. Wisconsin and Nebraska are vastly superior teams...one has to wonder what the line in those road games will be.
 

GopherHomer said:
Eh - it's just one game. I could easily see a 34-17 final, and I still wouldn't budge on my 6 or 7 win prediction. I am shocked, though, that the line is that high. Wisconsin and Nebraska are vastly superior teams...one has to wonder what the line in those road games will be.
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They are? Was it Nebraska's last second win over McNeese State that convinced you?
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
They are? Was it Nebraska's last second win over McNeese State that convinced you?
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Yeah, Nebraska didn't look too hot last week...but they looked great the week before. On a neutral field, I still think Nebraska would be a 8-10 point favorite over TCU.
 

threw down some money on the Gophers and the over (50) on points. Think we're looking at a 35-28 type game, especially if TCU's QB decides to run around today
 



upnorthkid said:
threw down some money on the Gophers and the over (50) on points. Think we're looking at a 35-28 type game, especially if TCU's QB decides to run around today
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Man I think it will be much lower than that if we have a chance of winning.
 

I got in on the +16. I just don't see us scoring less than 14. Then they gotta do 30 against our D. Heck, I think we might win!
 

Gold Vision said:
Man I think it will be much lower than that if we have a chance of winning.
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Their offense runs quickly. Watching their QB last year, he risked a lot of balls. Could see a defensive TD and we should have a the ball. a lot. Plus personally I think we unveil more of the offense with the jets and deeper passing game off the run. I hope anyways
 


Was really surprised this morning when I saw that we are 16 point underdogs to TCU, a team who went 4-8 last year. And Illinois is only 13 point underdogs to Washington who won 9 games last year. Don't understand that. I think we are a much better team than Illinois.
 

GopherHomer said:
Eh - it's just one game. I could easily see a 34-17 final, and I still wouldn't budge on my 6 or 7 win prediction. I am shocked, though, that the line is that high. Wisconsin and Nebraska are vastly superior teams...one has to wonder what the line in those road games will be.
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Yeah in college football especially with so much scoring, a game can seem not as close as it really is. Lots of scoring can happen in the last 5 minutes when a team gets a little desperate.
 

GophersInIowa said:
Was really surprised this morning when I saw that we are 16 point underdogs to TCU, a team who went 4-8 last year. And Illinois is only 13 point underdogs to Washington who won 9 games last year. Don't understand that. I think we are a much better team than Illinois.
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Washington has struggled (to say the least) their first two games, beating Hawaii by 1 and FCS Eastern Washington by a touchdown while giving up 52 points in the process. TCU is supposed to be much better this year. The -16 spread is still a little surprising to me though.
 

jaymil said:
Washington has struggled (to say the least) their first two games, beating Hawaii by 1 and FCS Eastern Washington by a touchdown while giving up 52 points in the process. TCU is supposed to be much better this year. The -16 spread is still a little surprising to me though.
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Maybe not. It's early in the season and most bettors don't have a lot of information they can trust anyway and the "experts are all saying bet on the Frogs. The Gophers had little Pass Game to speak of through most of their last 3 and a half games last year and none really the first two games against lesser teams this year. Two teams that got 24 and 20 point against them and most bettors didn't know how they got them. Now the Gophers starting QB is playing hurt, they've lost some important players to injuries and it's their first game against a BCS team and on the road to boot.

Throw in a hurry-up Offense by TCU and the high probability that the Gopher Running Game will be looking at 8-9 guys in the box most of the day, it's not that surprising that the Books couldn't get much money to come in on Minnesota when they tried to offer only 9-10 points.

If the Offense can complete some passes against that TCU defense 16-17 points will be guaranteed money for a Minnesota bet. If they can't? That spread might end-up being a 50/50 shot at best.

It's far from an exact science huh? :eek:
 






wait!what? said:
Dear TCU, you will either see the weakest passing attack you have ever seen or the greatest offensive deception since Operation Fortitude had Patton hitting France at Calais on June 6th 1944.
odd, Leidner is a bit like Patton...can't hit 'em. dropsmic.
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Dear TCU, you saw the weakest passing attack you will see all season.
 


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