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Bad Gopher said:
It's still shocking four years later that the U hired someone so unqualified for this job. I still have a hard time believing it. What's even harder to believe is that there are still people who think this bizarre experiment is about to somehow start working, or that it's the fans' fault for not supporting him, or some such shit.
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The thread from the day he was hired is a fun read. So much shock and horror. It was all correct.
 



Gopher_In_NYC said:
Last time I checked, Ben is a person and not an object🤦‍♂️

I don’t take joy in seeing people suffer, fail, or get fired, as I’ve learned for myself there are many more things in life than a ball, a win or a loss.

Sports is simply entertainment to me at this point in my life, not the end all be all it was, when I was a younger man.

So, please feel free to question whatever you want to my friend; I’ve been called worse by better 🤠. You won’t hurt my feelings, as I don’t give you that power.


Cheers🥳
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Literally none of what you said makes sense. Nobody wants Ben to fail or thinks he isn’t a person. He’s has the worst record of any gophers coach. He also is making millions so if he is fired for having a terrible record and being a bad coach nobody should really feel bad for him or feel bad for wanting the worst gophers coach to be replaced.
 

howeda7 said:
The thread from the day he was hired is a fun read. So much shock and horror. It was all correct.
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Yeah, I was super underwhelmed with the hire and really wanted Craig Smith. But it stings extra hard because with that first season, although rough, there was enough promise showed that I thought maybe hiring Johnson was a better move than I first thought...nope.
 



DarthGopher said:
If they miss the BTT, March 10, 2 pm press conference. Pull the plug. If they make the BTT, then March 17. Four years is more than enough time.
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Seems like a pretty safe bet that if a move is going to be made (and I feel confident it will be) that it will happen very quickly once the season is over. Can't see Coyle wasting time.
 

mplarson7 said:
Yeah, I was super underwhelmed with the hire and really wanted Craig Smith. But it stings extra hard because with that first season, although rough, there was enough promise showed that I thought maybe hiring Johnson was a better move than I first thought...nope.
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Does anyone think hiring Craig Smith now or 4 years ago would make the program different than it is now? If so why? He couldn't win at Utah why would he win here with worse or at best similar resources? Pay for a big time coach or fight for 15th for the rest of time.
 
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Johnnyboy18 said:
Does anyone think hiring Craig Smith now or 4 years ago would make the program different than it is now? Is so why? He couldn't win at Utah why would he win here with worse or at best similar resources? Pay for a big time coach or fight for 15th for the rest of time.
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I was high on Smith when Ben was hired but yeah he's been really underwhelming at Utah. I'd like to see Coyle go after Chris Mack but I'm guessing it will be Medved.
 







USAF said:
"Far better than Ben" is not a metric we should be using.
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Very true, but it would still be an upgrade.

Tubby and Pitino were both fired for performance, so we should not lose sight of the fact that performance that matches or is worse than Tubby's six year tenure should be a fireable offense.
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
Very true, but it would still be an upgrade.

Tubby and Pitino were both fired for performance, so we should not lose sight of the fact that performance that matches or is worse than Tubby's six year tenure should be a fireable offense.
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You might have missed the point.
 

Gopherbbdude said:
How many pages does it take to discuss this topic.....FFS
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It’s all we can do until the future decision is made.

Crazy part is that this season is better than last year at this point IMO. The B1G is also a cluster and it’s really about the game to game match ups. Wins over Michigan, Oregon and UCLA

Bottom 5 in conference have 26 wins in conference play.

On the women’s side the bottom 5 have 10.
 



WindyCityGopher said:
Medved would do absolutely zero to reignite my passion for this program. Coyle needs to aim higher.
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I only disagree because he’s built programs successfully before possibly coming here. He’s got 12 years HC experience and is close to a .600 coach in MWC. He would be able to take his knowledge at mid major and enhance with new resources. There would definitely be different levels of excitement.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
It’s all we can do until the future decision is made.
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That and vote with our pocketbooks, which many of our fellow fans have already done. Heck, I've NEVER been one to skip games, but I've skipped multiple games this year. That's that many fewer dollars I spent on parking and Kemps ice cream. Multiply that by thousands...

But yeah, besides whatever the power of expressed public opinion is (it's nonzero), it helps to talk about it. It sounds like a cliche, but it's true.
 

Johnnyboy18 said:
Does anyone think hiring Craig Smith now or 4 years ago would make the program different than it is now? If so why? He couldn't win at Utah why would he win here with worse or at best similar resources? Pay for a big time coach or fight for 15th for the rest of time.
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He did inherit a dumpster fire at Utah, but he hasn't done great there so far. But I'd still take a coach who won a lot at two previous stops over what we're dealing with right now.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
It’s all we can do until the future decision is made.

Crazy part is that this season is better than last year at this point IMO. The B1G is also a cluster and it’s really about the game to game match ups. Wins over Michigan, Oregon and UCLA

Bottom 5 in conference have 26 wins in conference play.

On the women’s side the bottom 5 have 10.
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Is that because the bottom is better or the top is worse? (on the men's side)

Maybe some of both.
 


MaxyJR1 said:
I only disagree because he’s built programs successfully before possibly coming here. He’s got 12 years HC experience and is close to a .600 coach in MWC. He would be able to take his knowledge at mid major and enhance with new resources. There would definitely be different levels of excitement.
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My thing is that Nikko Medved wouldn’t get a single second of attention as a potential head coach of the Gophers if he wasn’t from Minnesota. He is competent, I’ll give him that, which isn’t a negative because we need to have a competent coach after too many years of guys learning on the job. But this program is so beaten down that simple competence just won’t cut it; we need that plus so much more. I think competence gets us to a comfortable pattern of 9th place conference finishes, and if that happens the program will finally completely melt into irrelevance.
 

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