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station19 said:
There you go making thing up again.
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You quoted Teague as saying that he would've fired Tubby even if he made it to the Sweet 16. How is firing a coach after winning TWO Tournament games (especially one who is squeaky-clean) even remotely performance-based? You're working yourself into a corner here, Tubby Hater.
 

dpodoll68 said:
You quoted Teague as saying that he would've fired Tubby even if he made it to the Sweet 16. How is firing a coach after winning TWO Tournament games (especially one who is squeaky-clean) even remotely performance-based? You're working yourself into a corner here, Tubby Hater.
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Because it would've been based on 6th, T-7th, 6th, 9th, T-9th, T-7th (!!!) instead of two wins during a 205-game span.

Even Monson went .500 or better three times in Big Ten. Monson!!

First coach since Bill Fitch in 1968-70 not to finish above .500 in the Big Ten at least once. Only two coaches since 1945 to accomplish that feat.
 

Maximus said:
Because it would've been based on 6th, T-7th, 6th, 9th, T-9th, T-7th (!!!) instead of two wins during a 205-game span.

Even Monson went .500 or better three times in Big Ten. Monson!!

First coach since Bill Fitch in 1968-70 not to finish above .500 in the Big Ten at least once. Only two coaches since 1945 to accomplish that feat.
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So when your boss calls you in for your annual performance review, what you did last week is immaterial, but what you did 3 years ago is very important? Makes total sense!
 




dpodoll68 said:
So when your boss calls you in for your annual performance review, what you did last week is immaterial, but what you did 3 years ago is very important? Makes total sense!
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Nope, if I was crappy at my job from Jan. 12 through March 14 then a good March 22-24 wouldn't render that crappy period meaningless.
 

dpodoll68 said:
"Very easy". No other school in the history of the NCAA had fired a clean coach coming off his own best season and the school's best season in 23 years. Ever. A completely unprecedented occurrence, and yet it was "very easy".
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False.
 




dpodoll68 said:
So when your boss calls you in for your annual performance review, what you did last week is immaterial, but what you did 3 years ago is very important? Makes total sense!
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Unbelievable. This is possibly your worst post ever, and that is a feat in itself. Like the NCAA tournament committee would say, you are judged on your BODY OF WORK. Six years is a little better indicator of performance than one game against a lucky draw.
 

WilliamsArenaGuy said:
Unbelievable. This is possibly your worst post ever, and that is a feat in itself. Like the NCAA tournament committee would say, you are judged on your BODY OF WORK. Six years is a little better indicator of performance than one game against a lucky draw.
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Ok. Three Tournament appearances in 6 years. Which other Gopher coach can say that? I'll be anxiously awaiting your response.
 

dpodoll68 said:
So when your boss calls you in for your annual performance review, what you did last week is immaterial, but what you did 3 years ago is very important? Makes total sense!
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When Tubby was in the middle of his February collapse his last season, and people were saying that he should be fired if he loses in the first round of the tournament, weren't you the one saying that it would be absurd to judge him based on one game?
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
When Tubby was in the middle of his February collapse his last season, and people were saying that he should be fired if he loses in the first round of the tournament, weren't you the one saying that it would be absurd to judge him based on one game?
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He was.
 



dpodoll68 said:
Ok. Three Tournament appearances in 6 years. Which other Gopher coach can say that? I'll be anxiously awaiting your response.
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A lot more than that goes into judging performance. If it was that simple, Tim Brewster would probably still be here. After all, he made bowl games in 66.7% of his full seasons coaching the Gopher football team.
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
When Tubby was in the middle of his February collapse his last season, and people were saying that he should be fired if he loses in the first round of the tournament, weren't you the one saying that it would be absurd to judge him based on one game?
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Ok, so let's base it on the entirety of his tenure here. Please list all of the other Gopher basketball coaches who made 3 NCAA Tournaments in 6 years.
 

WilliamsArenaGuy said:
A lot more than that goes into judging performance. If it was that simple, Tim Brewster would probably still be here. After all, he made bowl games in 66.7% of his full seasons coaching the Gopher football team.
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Terrible comparison. Smith's last season was his best. Brewster's last season was his worst.

What else ya got?
 



dpodoll68 said:
Ok. Three Tournament appearances in 6 years. Which other Gopher coach can say that? I'll be anxiously awaiting your response.
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If it was a field of 68, Dutcher would've done it six times in eight years.
 

Maximus said:
If it was a field of 68, Dutcher would've done it six times in eight years.
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If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Dutcher's tenure falls well outside of the 23-year window that's so hotly contested by all of the Tubby Haters here.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Ok. Three Tournament appearances in 6 years. Which other Gopher coach can say that? I'll be anxiously awaiting your response.
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We have had only 3 coaches which have had 6 seasons with the tournament field has been at least 64 teams. One of them got several years thrown off the books for academic fraud. The other one had to coach with restrictions on place from the other coach's cheating. If your argument is that Tubby did better than the guy who cheated so badly the NCAA came and tore our banners down, and the guy coaching with different rules (the sanctions) than every other coach, then you are correct. I want the bar to be a little higher than the first coach (non-interim) to fail to post a winning conference record in over 40 years.
 

dpodoll68 said:
If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Dutcher's tenure falls well outside of the 23-year window that's so hotly contested by all of the Tubby Haters here.
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I know you like facts and specifics, but what I quoted from you said "other Gopher coach" not "other Gopher coach since 1989".

And Tubby the aunt achieved more than Dutcher the uncle because Tubby was fortunate enough to be born 20-30 years after Dutcher thus having an expanded NCAA Tournament field so his #10, #11, #11 seeded teams were invited?
 

bleedsmaroonandgold said:
We have had only 3 coaches which have had 6 seasons with the tournament field has been at least 64 teams. One of them got several years thrown off the books for academic fraud. The other one had to coach with restrictions on place from the other coach's cheating and still ended up coaching them to the best Gopher season in the last 23 years. If your argument is that Tubby did better than the guy who cheated so badly the NCAA came and tore our banners down, and the guy coaching with different rules (the sanctions) than every other coach, then you are correct. I want the bar to be a little higher than the first coach (non-interim) to fail to post a winning conference record in over 40 years.
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Fixed.
 


dpodoll68 said:
Which season was that, exactly? The year we finished 4th and got drilled in the first round? So you like losing Tournament games? I prefer winning them.
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If that is your preference, good for you. Some people don't like watching their team tank it year after year after year. Since you like watching it, feel free to skip over to the TT board and stop trolling here.
 

Same hatchet job the U gave the great Cheryl LIttlejohn.A bitter old man ,Mr. Fitzgerald. whose passion in life seems to be playing the race card.
 

If Fitzgerald and whatever community of listeners he had thought Tubby was so great, they should've been out there helping to build support (i.e., giving donations) for the program and the practice facility, and steering the best players to Tubby...instead of b*tching after the fact when he failed. Not everyone in the "black community" apparently thought Tubby was a great coach, or Tyus Jones, Reid Travis, and Rashad Vaughn would've been rushing to commit to him, in which case he'd still be coaching here. And Fitzgerald's own kid, a product of the Minnesota youth and HS sports system, is one of the richest athletes in the country. What did the Fitzgerald's do to support Tubby's program? My guess is nothing...it's easier to just complain.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Which season was that, exactly? The year we finished 4th and got drilled in the first round? So you like losing Tournament games? I prefer winning them.
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So do I. Not satisfied with a guy that wins 1 out of every 4. Also wasn't satisfied with the guy who finished 4th and got drilled in the first round.

After this post, I'm done carrying on an argument that we've had several times where we both know each other's position while I should be focused on one Gopher team that can lock up a B1G championship tonight, another that can lock up a tourney bid tonight, and yet another that can reach a Frozen Four by winning tomorrow. Last word for the day is yours if you want it.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Which season was that, exactly? The year we finished 4th and got drilled in the first round? So you like losing Tournament games? I prefer winning them.
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I particularly enjoyed not swooning in February, finishing in the upper division of the conference, finishing with a winning conference record, getting a first-round bye in the conference tournament and watching players who had developed a great deal during their playing career. It makes me smile thinking about it.
 

mplarson7 said:
If that is your preference, good for you. Some people don't like watching their team tank it year after year after year. Since you like watching it, feel free to skip over to the TT board and stop trolling here.
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I'm not trolling. Who started the Tubby Bashing thread? The only Tubby opinions welcomed here are negative ones? Sorry, not gonna happen. I'm not a Tubby fan, I'm a University of Minnesota fan and alum. When people make asinine comments (he was "inept"), I'm going to respond. If you don't like it, tough. I would prefer that we didn't discuss Tubby at all. Good luck getting that to happen.
 

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