Doogie are you hearing "rumblings" about your guy?

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Not the guy that your "boss" frequently mentions but rumblings about the guy you mention often. I would be OK with him being the face of the program and head coach if the Defense come's with the guy's being mentioned.
I like this if they can some how get the D side of the ball squared away with Snyder as DC and Stripling to coach the defensive line. There both old Mason guy's but they were two of the best defensive coaches we ever had at Minnesota. Bring in Halgorsen from OKie State and then we really would be putting the conference on notice that Minnesota is serious about Football.
 

Since some of us don't listen to KFAN, who are you talking about?
 

I assume he's talking about Sumlin. No idea what the rumblings are, other than he's been trying to figure out what he could pay his assistants here.
 


I don't really understand why Sumlin would be "investigating" what he could pay his assistants. If he's a serious candidate, couldn't he just ask Maturi or the search firm? If he's not yet a serious candidate, what more could he do other than check online to see what guys are being paid now? More importantly, until he's a serious candidate, why would he care? What's the source for the story?
 


gopherdudepart2 said:
Not the guy that your "boss" frequently mentions but rumblings about the guy you mention often. I would be OK with him being the face of the program and head coach if the Defense come's with the guy's being mentioned.
I like this if they can some how get the D side of the ball squared away with Snyder as DC and Stripling to coach the defensive line. There both old Mason guy's but they were two of the best defensive coaches we ever had at Minnesota. Bring in Halgorsen from OKie State and then we really would be putting the conference on notice that Minnesota is serious about Football.
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Been knee-deep in Vikings work all day... haven't heard anything new since Thursday... that he has been looking into what kind of budget he could have to pay his assistants... if he ends up with the job, I think you'll see a few former Gophers' coaches on the staff.
 

Doogie

what would lead you to believe that their will be a couple of former gopher coaches on staff? At this point aren't you speculating about him even being a coaching candidate much less hiring former gopher coaches? This reeks of a PA "inside source" kinda bit!
 

I like someone else

I like a couple other guy's Callhoun air force, Hoke SDSU, even Mullen at MSU. A guy I know that is an M man is suggesting that Sumlin is serious candidate (not just smoke being blown) and that he may bring a former couple of Gopher coaches with him. Everything is speculation at this point.
Knowing my luck though Maturi will hire Chryst and we will see ticket sales plummet after the first press conference, good coach but bland as milk toast.
 

The only thing I know is that after watching houston play friday I don't want their defensive coordinator. I don't care if he has NFL experience, in fact I don't want any coaches from the NFL. I'll take a good NCAA D coordinator from a lesser school over someone from the NFL. a general statement I know, but look at our o-coordinator from last year, Horton this year, they don't strike me as innovative minds.
 



Former Gopher Coaches Would Mean Better Program Organization

Doogie said:
Been knee-deep in Vikings work all day... haven't heard anything new since Thursday... that he has been looking into what kind of budget he could have to pay his assistants... if he ends up with the job, I think you'll see a few former Gophers' coaches on the staff.
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No doubt the new coach will have things "Moore" organized than they are now!

This would be a "Goode" thing even if your first name was "Dick."

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A little birdie told me Sumlin was asking if he could get Saturdays off during hunting season.
 

SDGopherFan said:
what would lead you to believe that their will be a couple of former gopher coaches on staff? At this point aren't you speculating about him even being a coaching candidate much less hiring former gopher coaches? This reeks of a PA "inside source" kinda bit!
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Anyone who is considering the job has a list of potential assistant coaches... based on enough email exchanges/conversations, if Sumlin ends up with the job, and it's still early enough where that is a relatively big "if", you will recognize a couple of his assistants.
 

Doogie said:
Anyone who is considering the job has a list of potential assistant coaches... based on enough email exchanges/conversations, if Sumlin ends up with the job, and it's still early enough where that is a relatively big "if", you will recognize a couple of his assistants.
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Thanks for the info, Doogie. I appreciate it.

The sense that I get from Gopher Nation is that we would be satisfied but not excited about this hire. I pretty much agree.

I feel like Sumlin is the kind of coach we could have expected a couple of years ago. Now, we have an impressive stadium and we are currently the only big-time coaching gig open, Maturi expresses confidence in making a "Tubby-like hire" and "a guy that he didn't think would be interested in the job is willing to listen" Our hopes are up. We are thinking Harbaugh, or perhaps a mystery name. A candidate like Sumlin or Edsall could have been expected in the past, but we think the bar has been set higher.

I'll be fine with Sumlin, but curious what would have been if we made a truly "Tubby-like" hire.

Thanks again for keeping us in the loop.
 



Sumlin would be best recruiter of all the candidates, but with coaching experience (brew)
 

Doogie

what level of contact have you had with Gordie Shaw on this? You must keep in contact with him as in the past you have referenced his cell phone number. Have you been getting this info from him and how does this fit with your boss' info on Mullen and Edsall. Also, I thought that there was a bad breakup between Shaw and members of the Athletic dept or boosters or something like that, would he be considered to come back here if he had burned bridges?
 

Last I talked to Gordy was for the story I used him on for 1500espn.com... coaching at Hawaii is a different animal with travel, time difference, etc... in addition, he told me at that time that many resources were being put into beating Boise St... obviously, that didn't happen on Sat.
As for the talk of a bad breakup... Brewster let him go... he's been outspoken in interviews on WCCO radio, and elsewhere, but I don't think he completely burned any bridges down... Put it this way: if Al Golden, or someone else, takes this job, so is the U's top target, or one of their top targets, and that individual wants to hire Shaw, I don't think Maturi will stop him... that will not be a make-or-break sort-of situation.
 

Shaw definately burned bridges. He was very unprofessional after Brewster let him go. Shaw was correct in the things he said about Brewster and Maturi both being total clowns but he was far too vindicative to ever be allowed to come back.
 

Sumlin either is a done deal or the next thing to it. Get used to it. He can get us to the Iowa/Wisky level in a few years IF he gets the DC and D staff to build a D. Snyder can can that done in Minnesota. OC? Halgorsen is the #1 target. It will be some one good.

Sumlin was a ways down my list, but I am trying to get ready for the announcement. He is the best of the Tier II available and will be the best hire in a long long time. Will we get to where we compete with tOSU? Doubtful, that will be up to the fans and boosters.

Will he take us to where we complete TCF? I think so. Need 30,000 more fans from Minnesota.

Remember Sumlin is the best available that has Minnesota ties/fits the U and meets Dungy's requirements. He is just the best available that we can get and he will take us to the nest level.

Would I rather have Bellotti or Harbaugh? Yes, but they aren't coming. Peterson? Nope. Would be the next BSU BCS failure. Patterson? Yep, don't think he is coming and I think the U would prefer Sumlin anyway.

If you aren't a Sumlin fan no9w, start getting that way. Got to have that BIG DC hire.

If Gordy Shaw returns in any shape or form there needs to be a huge fan uprising. Keep that SOB away from here.
 

diehard

"He can get us to the Iowa/Wisky level in a few years IF he gets the DC and D staff to build a D. Snyder can can that done in Minnesota."

you lost me here, can you elaborate on who Snyder is? If Sumlin is the guy I do like the hire but I think we agree in that he needs to bring in a proven d coordinator who has recent (Cosgrove) success at the major D1 level. NFL coordinators have the name but they seem to fail frequently.
 

Mark Snyder. Our DE coach for Lamanzer Williams and Karon Riley. Remember that pass rush? Former HC at Marshall and DC at USF now. With good position coaches I think he is the one with Minnesota ties and potential to get it done.

Spent a year on Gopher staff with Sumlin. Sumlin will bring some successful Minnesota in with him. The U wants that.
 

SDGopherFan said:
"He can get us to the Iowa/Wisky level in a few years IF he gets the DC and D staff to build a D. Snyder can can that done in Minnesota."

you lost me here, can you elaborate on who Snyder is? If Sumlin is the guy I do like the hire but I think we agree in that he needs to bring in a proven d coordinator who has recent (Cosgrove) success at the major D1 level. NFL coordinators have the name but they seem to fail frequently.
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Mark Snyder was the defensive line coach early in the Mason era. He left for tOSU when Tressel got the job, was their D coordinator (?) and then coached Marshall for a while. I think he's on South Florida's staff now. Anyway, he was highly regarded when he was here.
 

diehard said:
Sumlin either is a done deal or the next thing to it. Get used to it. He can get us to the Iowa/Wisky level in a few years IF he gets the DC and D staff to build a D. Snyder can can that done in Minnesota. OC? Halgorsen is the #1 target. It will be some one good.
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What about build an offense?
 

Geez, Maturi says on Friday that he's trying hard not to fall in love with any one candidate yet, but he does have some favorites, and some guys are ready to pronounce Sumlin the next head coach. He even just added two more candidates to the list the day before. Does that sound anywhere close to Sumlin being a done deal? Besides, Doogie is now saying that any potential candidate will have a list of potential assistants, so you can take the big news about Sumlin and replace his name with about ten or more other coaches. I thought Maturi made it pretty clear that they haven't even started weeding down the list yet - except for those candidates who might have given a flat out no.
 

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eker0016 said:
Thanks for the info, Doogie. I appreciate it.

The sense that I get from Gopher Nation is that we would be satisfied but not excited about this hire. I pretty much agree.

I feel like Sumlin is the kind of coach we could have expected a couple of years ago. Now, we have an impressive stadium and we are currently the only big-time coaching gig open, Maturi expresses confidence in making a "Tubby-like hire" and "a guy that he didn't think would be interested in the job is willing to listen" Our hopes are up. We are thinking Harbaugh, or perhaps a mystery name. A candidate like Sumlin or Edsall could have been expected in the past, but we think the bar has been set higher.

I'll be fine with Sumlin, but curious what would have been if we made a truly "Tubby-like" hire.

Thanks again for keeping us in the loop.
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No, I would not at all be satisfied if Sumlin is hired. His defenses are horrible, very gopher-like. Contrary to some posts his recruiting is horrible, especially for coaching at a school that sits smack in the middle of boatloads of future NFL talent. His offense reminds me of Mike Dunbar, not Chip Kelly. Just because he has a history at the U or was endorsed by someone (Brewster was endorsed by Mike Shannon and Mack Brown) means zilch when it comes to qualifications. IMO he is in the YUK column, along with the other horrible so-called candidates such as Trestman, Chryst, McCarney, Shannon, Edwards, and Edsall.
 


Why the obsession with any former Gopher coach? We should hire someone with zero MN connections and zero WI connections. I can't believe the fascination with an Hawaii assistant and a South Florida asst. There are reasons they are where they are. If we settle for these guys, it will be seriously disappointing.
 

Please no Sumlin

I would be very, very disappointed if Sumlin was the choice. Picking up a few wins in a very weak conference doesn't do much for me. Watching the way his team got schooled by UCF last weekend confirmed my earlier impression.
 


minngg said:
Why the obsession with any former Gopher coach? We should hire someone with zero MN connections and zero WI connections. I can't believe the fascination with an Hawaii assistant and a South Florida asst. There are reasons they are where they are. If we settle for these guys, it will be seriously disappointing.
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I agree we go a bit overboard with the Minnesota angle. We need someone who understands the state and the situation, but that doesn't necessarily mean the guy has to have ties with the place.
 


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