Wow. What a thread.
Wow. What a thread.
yeah, we go crazy over 3-star recruits lol
Fair enough. But we don't have to live in Arkansas, so there's that.
I don't have to live in Arkansas either. Failed to see your point on that one.
Welcome back DeltaHog. I've been waiting to hear from you. Congrats on getting Ragnow, and I, for one, hope he does ya proud.
Thanks. Yeah. Just found out. Been out of the loop. Finally got internet here in Arkansas.
and he would have immediate playing time. .
Was Pirsig as highly rated and sought after as Ragnow? (I didn't follow his recruiting)
Wow. What a thread.
Losing a highly recruited in-state guy is a huge deal for MN since there are so few each year.
I couldn't agree more. This hurts only because he's from Minnesota. We need to change the perception of our program in state first and this doesn't help.I think this is a very disappointing loss. While I agree with those who believe that our OL line will be fine, I still think losing out on a 4 star Minnesota football recruit is very troubling. Coupled with our failure to land any of the top 4 Minnesota basketball recruits in the class of 2014 is very troubling. A big factor in the latter is the relatively short time Coach Pitino had to recruit this class, and I expect him to have more success next year and beyond, but I'm concerned with the lack of state loyalty on the part of our best in-state talent. I understand that we can't expect every elite recruit to stay home, and we may still keep Jeff Jones, but I'm still dismayed by our inability to keep the state's best talent home. I understand that the football program in particular has been anemic for a long time, but we are finally showing some promise and I would hope that Minnesota kids would want to be a part of turning the football program around, and would recognize how much they would be revered locally and the personal career implications for themselves if they were to help make that possible.
In Frank's case, the choice of Arkansas is especially difficult to understand. Others have spelled out the problems with the Arkansas program, such as their SEC record last year and the risk of an Arkansas coaching change in a year or two. While Frank probably believes that Arkansas will increase his chances of making it to the NFL, I doubt that playing for Arkansas will make the likelihood of that happening significantly more probable than had he chosen Minnesota. The more significant difference is how his choice will affect his career if he does not make it in the NFL. I don't think there is any question that Minnesota would have given him more career opportunities than Arkansas. Arkansas is a very beautiful state, especially in the Ozarks where Arkansas is located, but it doesn't have an economy anywhere near as strong as Minnesota. Yes it does have Walmart, but I think that's about it. Additionally, academically, I believe that Minnesota has much more to offer than Arkansas.
We need to persuade our elite instate talent that Minnesota is a very special opportunity for them. Continuing to improve on the field and court should make a big difference. That in part will require making a large investment in facilities. Let's get it done.
I think this is a very disappointing loss. While I agree with those who believe that our OL line will be fine, I still think losing out on a 4 star Minnesota football recruit is very troubling. Coupled with our failure to land any of the top 4 Minnesota basketball recruits in the class of 2014 is very troubling. A big factor in the latter is the relatively short time Coach Pitino had to recruit this class, and I expect him to have more success next year and beyond, but I'm concerned with the lack of state loyalty on the part of our best in-state talent. I understand that we can't expect every elite recruit to stay home, and we may still keep Jeff Jones, but I'm still dismayed by our inability to keep the state's best talent home. I understand that the football program in particular has been anemic for a long time, but we are finally showing some promise and I would hope that Minnesota kids would want to be a part of turning the football program around, and would recognize how much they would be revered locally and the personal career implications for themselves if they were to help make that possible.
In Frank's case, the choice of Arkansas is especially difficult to understand. Others have spelled out the problems with the Arkansas program, such as their SEC record last year and the risk of an Arkansas coaching change in a year or two. While Frank probably believes that Arkansas will increase his chances of making it to the NFL, I doubt that playing for Arkansas will make the likelihood of that happening significantly more probable than had he chosen Minnesota. The more significant difference is how his choice will affect his career if he does not make it in the NFL. I don't think there is any question that Minnesota would have given him more career opportunities than Arkansas. Arkansas is a very beautiful state, especially in the Ozarks where Arkansas is located, but it doesn't have an economy anywhere near as strong as Minnesota. Yes it does have Walmart, but I think that's about it. Additionally, academically, I believe that Minnesota has much more to offer than Arkansas.
I agree 100%. Before we can persuade our elite instate talent that Minnesota is worth their talent, we have to put together some winning years. Unless a top a recruit is extremely mature and wants to play for Minnesota pride, it'll be very difficult to persuade top recruits to come here.We need to persuade our elite instate talent that Minnesota is a very special opportunity for them. Continuing to improve on the field and court should make a big difference. That in part will require making a large investment in facilities. Let's get it done.
I don't have to live in Arkansas either. Failed to see your point on that one.
Meh...repeating what I have said twice before...would have loved to have him but not a huge loss. He isn't a top 100 type recruit at a position of need. Still more excited about the two recent WR commits, JJ & the potential commits left on our board.
If Arkansas is promising early playing time at center and that is his path to the NFL, best of luck, I won't be watching regardless unless he gets drafted by the Vikes in a few years.
Anyone find it interesting that his stated goal is the NFL, but there is only one NFL center starter his height and none taller? I'm not sure I'd be excited to get pegged into a huge area of need instead of grow into a position that fits my body and skill set, but to each there own.
Bunch of crap.[/QUOTE]E=MZBKA;840571]I surprised that so many people are shocked by Ragnow's decision. Disappointed, sure, but given what Ragnow wants, his choice makes sense.
Ragnow has stated he wants to go pro. Bielema and Arkansas give him a much better chance than the Gophers.
I surprised that so many people are shocked by Ragnow's decision. Disappointed, sure, but given what Ragnow wants, his choice makes sense.
Ragnow has stated he wants to go pro. Bielema and Arkansas give him a much better chance than the Gophers.
Ragnow has said he wants to play for a winning team. The Razorbacks have a recent history of success and so does Bielema. We have had three mediocre years in the past decade and have been in the toilet of the big ten for almost 50 years. There is no way Arkansas will fire its coach after two or three years.
I agree 100%. Before we can persuade our elite instate talent that Minnesota is worth their talent, we have to put together some winning years. Unless a top a recruit is extremely mature and wants to play for Minnesota pride, it'll be very difficult to persuade top recruits to come here.
A talented offensive or defensive lineman is always a big loss. The lines are what win championships.
He'll end up a guard but they want him to be able to play center also.