Cam Christie is entering the Transfer Portal

[Zeppelin Gopher]

Kyle Anderson just got 9M a year and scored 6ppg

What does that have to do with Christie? SloMo is an excellent defender, passer, connector, etc. He's a proven playoff level rotation player, scoring obviously isn't his strength...

 

[kix4kix]

What does that have to do with Christie? SloMo is an excellent defender, passer, connector, etc. He's a proven playoff level rotation player, scoring obviously isn't his strength...

Previous poster stated ppg as reason that Christie was an overpay

Thanks for agreeing with me that ppg is only one factor in basketball, especially when considering a players worth

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

Previous poster stated ppg as reason that Christie was an overpay

Thanks for agreeing with me that ppg is only one factor in basketball, especially when considering a players worth

No, that’s not what I said.

Max Christie barely plays on an awful LAL team, when he did, he barely did anything on the court. In fact, at 4 points per game, scoring is what he did best. He gets virtually zero assists and doesn’t fill up that stat sheet in any category in any meaningful way.

No one and I mean no one argued that scoring is the only factor in considering a basketball player’s worth. If it makes you feel better to pretend that’s what you’re arguing against, carry on. To save yourself from future embarrassment, I probably would avoid comparing SlowMo to Max Christie though, the two guys couldn’t be more different in terms of style and production.

 

[EasyThere Pilgrim]

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I'm for free markets in everything...except games.

The other side is against free markets in everything...except games.

I mean who wants to play games (basketball, Monopoly, whatever...) against someone who pulls out real cash and just buys everything up with bribes. That's not fun.

 

[EasyThere Pilgrim]

It also becomes hard to identify with, root for, think of him as representing me and my state....guys scoring 4ppg making $10M/yr. The best players...it's fine if they're icons. But when everyone, even the scrubs, are super duper rich...and all patting each other on the back all the time (instead of going McHale-Rambis on each other)...it becomes difficult to relate to.

 

[EasyThere Pilgrim]

And NO...going Luka on the crowd...using filthy language and acting thuggish towards the fans...isn't the same as McHale-Rambis. In fact, it's extra cringe, annoying, and stupid. Not competitive.

 

[kix4kix]

No, that’s not what I said.

Max Christie barely plays on an awful LAL team, when he did, he barely did anything on the court. In fact, at 4 points per game, scoring is what he did best. He gets virtually zero assists and doesn’t fill up that stat sheet in any category in any meaningful way.

No one and I mean no one argued that scoring is the only factor in considering a basketball player’s worth. If it makes you feel better to pretend that’s what you’re arguing against, carry on. To save yourself from future embarrassment, I probably would avoid comparing SlowMo to Max Christie though, the two guys couldn’t be more different in terms of style and production.

Future performance is a factor, but go ahead and continue counting stats

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

Future performance is a factor, but go ahead and continue counting stats

At least you've now pivoted from comparing Christie to Anderson (who fills up a state sheet if you're counting those stupid things). So now you've pivoted to this amorphous idea of paying an NBA free agent a ton of money based on "future performance" without factoring in statistics?

How do you know the future? What kind of evidence do you look at to determine if a young player is going to take the next leap? Obviously, you look at how productive they've been, but you seem to hate that idea because that is, again, counting stats. So what do you do? You look at their physical profile? Is Max Christie some athletic freak like Wemby (obviously without the production because Wemby also had incredible stats at all levels)? Max hasn't been productive at any level since HS. He wasn't a very good college basketball player statistically and he hasn't been a very good pro statistically.

As I said in my first post that you've disagreed with, I'm not saying it won't work out for the Lakers, I have no idea. My entire point is that his contract is an outlier. I've never seen a player accomplish so little and sign a FA contract like that.

I'd love for you to find 1 example of a player who accomplished less in college and on their rookie deal who signed their next contract for anything close to $8 million per year.

 

[kix4kix]

At least you've now pivoted from comparing Christie to Anderson (who fills up a state sheet if you're counting those stupid things). So now you've pivoted to this amorphous idea of paying an NBA free agent a ton of money based on "future performance" without factoring in statistics?

How do you know the future? What kind of evidence do you look at to determine if a young player is going to take the next leap? Obviously, you look at how productive they've been, but you seem to hate that idea because that is, again, counting stats. So what do you do? You look at their physical profile? Is Max Christie some athletic freak like Wemby (obviously without the production because Wemby also had incredible stats at all levels)? Max hasn't been productive at any level since HS. He wasn't a very good college basketball player statistically and he hasn't been a very good pro statistically.

As I said in my first post that you've disagreed with, I'm not saying it won't work out for the Lakers, I have no idea. My entire point is that his contract is an outlier. I've never seen a player accomplish so little and sign a FA contract like that.

I'd love for you to find 1 example of a player who accomplished less in college and on their rookie deal who signed their next contract for anything close to $8 million per year.

I brought up Anderson because you mentioned points, you can keep saying I am moving the needle but it's you.

Also, 8M is not the metric to compare, as you know the cap has increased significantly over the years. Christies Cap is ~5% of the cap for 2024. Also since it's not points, how are you defining accomplished?

 

[kix4kix]

I follow the NBA much closer than I follow college basketball, I'd love to see another example of a guy getting paid like Max Christie who has shown less. He was a very mediocre college player and has done almost nothing in the NBA. His contract is definitely an outlier.

I'm not saying it won't work out for the Lakers. I'm just saying that contract is wild.

Max Christie is coming into his own and the Lakers are thriving as a result

After a rough start to his season, Lakers guard Max Christie has proved a vital piece of the starting lineup as he continues to make big strides

www.silverscreenandroll.com

 

[Spaulding!No!]

MN should have been better when we had Garcia and Battle. Just dumb.

 

[Bob_Loblaw]

Max Christie is coming into his own and the Lakers are thriving as a result

After a rough start to his season, Lakers guard Max Christie has proved a vital piece of the starting lineup as he continues to make big strides

www.silverscreenandroll.com

Yeah, I mean, I would not exactly say it's been working out yet for the Lakers but like I said, it might. I've just never seen a person do so little at the NBA level, outside of people just drafted, who have gotten contracts like his. My point was about what they had accomplished PRIOR to receiving the contract. I'd love to see another example of someone with numbers similar to Christie's before last year that got $8 million per year.

If we're talking about how players who signed similar contracts are doing so far this year?
Kelly Oubre signed for the same contract. He's obviously done way more in his career than Christie and has been (so far) much better than Christie this year. The same can be said for Sadiq Bey and Naji Marshall. So far, he has seemed to be outperforming Garry Harris this year (however Harris did a lot more in his career). The Harris signing never made sense for Orlando either.

It could work out for the Lakers but I just can't believe there was another team willing to pay him more than $4.5 for 3 years.