Brosmer is not a stud.

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Brosmer makes really good decisions and limits the mistakes. He quickly processes through his options and definitely makes the best play available most of the time. From time to time he will miss some throws. I don't think he's a stud but an average QB.
 


A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
I'm not sure the deep ball for Brosmer has ever looked very good, consistently.
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He makes great decisions and has the arm strength to make those short to intermediate throws but definitely lacks the arm for those deep balls on a consistent basis.
 

Gophers1992 said:
I can’t help but wonder what the heck was wrong with our game plan against UNC that Max looked so bad in that game. Clearly it is an outlier.
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Maybe the game plan wasn't the issue and Max just wasn't acclimated to the offense or the receivers.
 

Max is the first Mn QB i have seen make great changes at the line and work thru progressions not just stare down where he wants to throw. He had happy feet first few games, OL didn't do him any favors. OL seems to have gotten it together and Max looks comfortable in pocket!
 

gopherbadgerman said:
Lol, good one. I’ve admitted more than once he’s been very good the last few weeks.
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Don’t worry about it man. We are all allowed to change opinions when presented with new information.

After Iowa I felt PJ deserved “warm seat” criticism. I didn’t think he deserved credible firing-level heat (buyout aside). Now, I’ve seen him grow for the first time in 7 years and I absolutely credit him!
 



Posted after the Terps game that I am resigned to the fact that we are not a "just reload" type of program that means we will have growing pains at the start of each season. Really just affirming to myself this is a reality of a developmental program.

What is increasingly enjoyable about this season is that the coaches/team stopped the bleeding and we are seeing competency across all three phases of the game. Very nice to see given the "tale of two halfs" we saw in September.

Back to Brosner, he has risen to the occasion, and with Taylor able to execute as a pass catcher, the offense is doing their part. 3 more Saturdays. Fun.
 

He’s really smart and mentally tough and throws both the short and medium balls on the money in stride so the receivers and RBs can run post catch. Seems like a great leader too. We are just blessed to be able to have him on the board. It’s been really fun.
 


BronkosGhost said:
He makes great decisions and has the arm strength to make those short to intermediate throws but definitely lacks the arm for those deep balls on a consistent basis.
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I wonder if there's some way to track completion percentages on deep throws, in comparing different college QBs.

My gut tells me that very few college QBs complete a high percentage of deep throws, but I have no data to back up that feeling.

I also sometimes feel like we fans have a tendency to overstate the real importance of deep throws.
 



He’s able to efficiently and calmly change things at the line because he has plenty of time. I think that may be the biggest improvement on offense, in my opinion. It can’t give the guys much confidence when the qb is running around and clapping his hands like his hair’s on fire most plays. Then we have also had some timeouts at the end of the half if needed.
 

RememberMurray said:
I wonder if there's some way to track completion percentages on deep throws, in comparing different college QBs.

My gut tells me that very few college QBs complete a high percentage of deep throws, but I have no data to back up that feeling.

I also sometimes feel like we fans have a tendency to overstate the real importance of deep throws.
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Sometimes I feel like the threat of a deep throw is almost as important. If that makes sense.
 

gopherbadgerman said:
Sometimes I feel like the threat of a deep throw is almost as important. If that makes sense.
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If all that's necessary is the threat of the deep ball, then I'd make the argument that Brosmer can supply that threat. Is Max a great deep thrower? Probably not. Is he capable of connecting on a deep throw? Absolutely.

If there's a fair chance he can complete one deep, then the threat of the deep ball is there.
 

Soon2B8 said:
Max is the first Mn QB i have seen make great changes at the line and work thru progressions not just stare down where he wants to throw. He had happy feet first few games, OL didn't do him any favors. OL seems to have gotten it together and Max looks comfortable in pocket!
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He looks like a professional running the team.
 

RememberMurray said:
If all that's necessary is the threat of the deep ball, then I'd make the argument that Brosmer can supply that threat. Is Max a great deep thrower? Probably not. Is he capable of connecting on a deep throw? Absolutely.

If there's a fair chance he can complete one deep, then the threat of the deep ball is there.
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I never said its all that matters, said it feels almost as important. But whatever. He is a capable QB.
 



IMO - "great deep throwers" are pretty rare, especially in college. Been following the Gophers since the 1960's and I am hard-pressed to recall any QB who could be described as such. Weber or Hohensee might come the closest.
 
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cemba99 said:
IMO - "great deep throwers" are pretty rare. Been following the Gophers since the 1960's and I am hard-pressed to recall any QB who could be described as such. Weber might come the closest.
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Yes.

Your first sentence is the key point. Go beyond just Gopher QBs... how many great deep throwers are there in the entirety of college football, this season or even at any point in time?

I've been a football fan for a long time, I've seen many QBs. My opinion on this: the emphasis fans put on "big arms" and deep throws is way, way overblown. It's not nearly as important as most fans seem to think it is.

It goes without saying that deep passes are high-risk, high-reward plays. I would guess that the success rate is pretty low. I just don't see it as being a crucial factor in the outcomes of most football games.

Of course, when a deep throw actually does connect, it's almost always spectacular and memorable. I suppose that's why we fans obsess over it.
 

SeaBee_Gopher said:
My first reaction to your post was, damn, you’re old. Then I realized 1/2 a century is 50 and I’m 51!:oops:
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Thanks for that depressing thought. Haven't reached 50 but it is right around the corner. :)
 

cemba99 said:
IMO - "great deep throwers" are pretty rare, especially in college. Been following the Gophers since the 1960's and I am hard-pressed to recall any QB who could be described as such. Weber or Hohensee might come the closest.
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"Big Arm" QBs are pretty rare. Accuracy and decision making are way more important than the ability to hit the home run throw.

Deep shots are exciting but they tend to be low percentage throws and if the QB is off they lead to picks. Big Ten values defense more than some of the other conferences where bombs are more common because defense is optional.
 

cemba99 said:
IMO - "great deep throwers" are pretty rare, especially in college. Been following the Gophers since the 1960's and I am hard-pressed to recall any QB who could be described as such. Weber or Hohensee might come the closest.
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I think our guy throws the ball short medium and fairly long just fine. Cupito and Sauter both through pretty nice long balls, but they had deep threat receivers too.
 

Max is good enough that now we pass to set up the run! Think how few times in our history we could pass when we are forced too by an average run game, many previous QB’s here passed well off of play action or they didn’t pass well.
 

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