Bowl Game Projections?

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Panthadad2 said:
It's too bad the Vegas bowl is in an off year for the BG10. The Gophs probably would have been a lock for that.
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Isn't that just the one that alternates with the Mayo bowl? If we wouldn't get the Mayo, I don't see why we'd get the Vegas, this year?
 

tjgopher said:
Nah, I get why Phoenix wants Wisconsin instead of Maryland.

Especially true since I saw firsthand last year about 200 West Virginia fans at the bowl game in Phoenix. Not 20,000. Not 2000. 200.

I'm guessing Maryland would send the same.
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You are likely correct.

Somehow, I still want to force Wisconsin to have to play in the s__t bowl.
 

Gophers_4life said:
This.

Randy Johnson had a good write up in the STrib today about bowl projections. One key takeaway of his from speaking to people on the bowl selection committees -- agree with it or call it complete BS -- is that they seem to think if a team has never been to that bowl before, that's more likely to get their fanbase to travel there.

Notes that we were in the Nashville bowl in like 2002, 04, and 05, and that the bowl is aware of that, whereas Iowa and Illinois have never been there.


We have never been to the Pinstripe, while Maryland, Wisc, and Iowa have all been there since 2017.
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The Pinstripe Bowl has weird and especially specific language in the contract calling for a different Big Ten team in almost every year of the contract. It calls for something like eight different teams in eight years. That seems weird and almost impossible.
 



tjgopher said:
The Pinstripe Bowl has weird and especially specific language in the contract calling for a different Big Ten team in almost every year of the contract. It calls for something like eight different teams in eight years. That seems weird and almost impossible.
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All the Big Ten bowls had a thing about 5 different teams in the 6 year cycle ... but that was the last cycle of contracts that I believe ended after the 2019 season (ie, new contracts starting after the 2020 season). So I'm not sure if that carried over at all?

All I've seen so far is just that they can't go to the same bowl two years in a row.
 



Gophers_4life said:
All the Big Ten bowls had a thing about 5 different teams in the 6 year cycle ... but that was the last cycle of contracts that I believe ended after the 2019 season (ie, new contracts starting after the 2020 season). So I'm not sure if that carried over at all?

All I've seen so far is just that they can't go to the same bowl two years in a row.
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That is true for the other bowls. The Pinstripe Bowl is an older, existing contract I believe. Maybe not, not sure. Either way, eight teams in eight years is weird LOL
 
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Gophers_4life said:
Isn't that just the one that alternates with the Mayo bowl? If we wouldn't get the Mayo, I don't see why we'd get the Vegas, this year?
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Maybe. Though Charlotte doesn't have roulette, hot wait staff everywhere, Gordon Ramsey's Burgers, nor the ability watch the Bellagio fountains with a cool buzz right at sunset.
 

Panthadad2 said:
Maybe. Though Charlotte doesn't have roulette, hot wait staff everywhere, Gordon Ramsey's Burgers, nor the ability watch the Bellagio fountains with a cool buzz right at sunset.
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Agreed.

Going to Charlotte I imagine is like going to a somewhat bigger Omaha.
 


MGGopher said:
Most outlets have updated their projections following the Penn St / Rose Bowl news, and it ain't good for Gopher fans. I was convinced the team was headed to NYC regardless, but chalk in the CFP and PSU to the Rose over OSU seems to solidify it in the minds of most with CBS, The Athletic, Action Network, and CFN all projecting Minnesota to the Pinstripe vs. Syracuse. McMurphy predicts MN would open -6.5. Who's ready for a rematch with the hated Orange?!?!?

BTW, 3 out of 4 have Illinois to the Music City and Iowa to Duke's Mayo, with only the Athletic predicting Iowa to Music City (their beat writer helps with these projections), Maryland to Duke's, and Illinois to Guaranteed Rate...and you thought a fanbase couldn't be more p!$$ed about a bowl selection than Minnesota's was last year, lol. Just wait for Bielema's tweets if that happens!
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Illinois should’ve beaten Indiana and Michigan state

If Illinois gets screwed it’s because their season this year is really similar to Minnesota’s last year. An above average team that missed out on a great season by losing to bad teams.

As is, Ohio State going to the orange likely puts Mn in pinstripe. I’ll see you in New York.
 



Gophers_4life said:
The original contract appears to be 2014-2021, and then extended in 2019 through 2025.

No idea if the extension carries through such provisions about different teams from the original.

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/big_ten_strikes_long_term_pinstripe_bowl_deal/
https://bigten.org/news/2019/6/4/fo...st-11-different-bowls-across-the-country.aspx
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It really doesn't matter and I am not sure at all. I know the Pinstripe was an existing contract when extended, I think the others were all new deals. I recall reading somewhere the Pinstripe still wants new teams each year. Maybe I dreamt it or maybe the info was wrong. Can't say for sure.
 

Gophers_4life said:
Problem with these is that they haven't incorporated the recent news that the Rose wants Penn State, which pushes Ohio State to the Orange.

And with a team in the Orange, we lose the Outback (ReliaQuest).


Citrus stays Purdue, but now the MC can pick either Iowa or Illinois. Whomever they don't pick can be selected then by the Mayo.

That leaves Minnesota, Maryland, and Wisconsin for the Pinstripe, Phoenix (Guarantee Rate), and Quick Lane.

If SG's idea about not wanting to send Maryland out West actually holds any water, then switch Maryland and Wisc.
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I do not understand the Orange/Reliaquest factor. Either way our tier of teams starts with Purdue to Citrus.

Ohio State and Penn State will both be NY6, and we will lose ReliaQuest.
 

From Creative Charters:

WHAT BOWL

The Big Ten has a contract with the Pinstripe Bowl to supply

8 different teams in eight years. The only two teams available this

year is Minnesota and Illinois. Both have the 8-4 records and Illinois

beat Minnesota. You guessed it!


MINNESOTA IS GOING TO

THE PINSTRIPE BOWL DEC 29


WE ARE PLANNING A 3 NIGHT STAY

DEPART DEC 28 RETURN DEC 31 HOME FOR NEW YEARS EVE



CHECK OUT OUR UPDATED WEB SITE FOR FUN THINGS TO DO
 
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gopherlaney said:
I do not understand the Orange/Reliaquest factor. Either way our tier of teams starts with Purdue to Citrus.

Ohio State and Penn State will both be NY6, and we will lose ReliaQuest.
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If Ohio state is rose, it puts two of MN/PU/IA/IL in Florida because penn state goes to cotton
If Penn State is rose it puts Ohio state in orange.
Which puts two of notre dame/IA/IL/PU/MN in Florida
Notre dame likely being one of them.
This bumps the 4th of those four down one more spot
 

Iceland12 said:
Creative Charters

WHAT BOWL

From Creative Charters:

The Big Ten has a contract with the Pinstripe Bowl to supply

8 different teams in eight years. The only two teams available this

year is Minnesota and Illinois. Both have the 8-4 records and Illinois

beat Minnesota. You guessed it!


MINNESOTA IS GOING TO

THE PINSTRIPE BOWL DEC 29


WE ARE PLANNING A 3 NIGHT STAY

DEPART DEC 28 RETURN DEC 31 HOME FOR NEW YEARS EVE



CHECK OUT OUR UPDATED WEB SITE FOR FUN THINGS TO DO
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What a scoop.
 

Some guy said:
If Ohio state is rose, it puts two of MN/PU/IA/IL in Florida because penn state goes to cotton
If Penn State is rose it puts Ohio state in orange.
Which puts two of notre dame/IA/IL/PU/MN in Florida
Notre dame likely being one of them.
This bumps the 4th of those four down one more spot
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Didn’t get the Cotton wrinkle, thanks!
 

Iceland12 said:
From Creative Charters:

WHAT BOWL

The Big Ten has a contract with the Pinstripe Bowl to supply

8 different teams in eight years. The only two teams available this

year is Minnesota and Illinois. Both have the 8-4 records and Illinois

beat Minnesota. You guessed it!


MINNESOTA IS GOING TO

THE PINSTRIPE BOWL DEC 29


WE ARE PLANNING A 3 NIGHT STAY

DEPART DEC 28 RETURN DEC 31 HOME FOR NEW YEARS EVE



CHECK OUT OUR UPDATED WEB SITE FOR FUN THINGS TO DO
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Head to head didn't matter last year. So it still stands to reason that Illinois could go to the Pinstripe Bowl.
 


Panthadad2 said:
Maybe. Though Charlotte doesn't have roulette, hot wait staff everywhere, Gordon Ramsey's Burgers, nor the ability watch the Bellagio fountains with a cool buzz right at sunset.
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I went to watch us play UNLV in Vegas. Still have a hangover and plugged ears from the pool and some sunburn. I would go to the Vegas bowl if we were there.
 

I fully believe that MN will end up in pinstripe if the penn state to rose bowl news is true.
(Unless Ohio state ends up in the playoff).

I then think Maryland ends up in quick lane and Wisconsin out to Arizona

It will be interesting to see how it shakes out if penn state ends up in cotton.


The 8 in 8 think makes no sense. I believe people must be reading the contract wrong.
The big ten wouldn’t have given that much leverage to their 7th best bowl over the 4-6th best bowls
 


It should be noted that the Pinstripe has a higher selection priority than Duke’s Mayo Bowl, so even if both bowls wanted Minnesota, New York looms.
 

Iceland12 said:
From Creative Charters:

WHAT BOWL

The Big Ten has a contract with the Pinstripe Bowl to supply

8 different teams in eight years. The only two teams available this

year is Minnesota and Illinois. Both have the 8-4 records and Illinois

beat Minnesota. You guessed it!


MINNESOTA IS GOING TO

THE PINSTRIPE BOWL DEC 29


WE ARE PLANNING A 3 NIGHT STAY

DEPART DEC 28 RETURN DEC 31 HOME FOR NEW YEARS EVE



CHECK OUT OUR UPDATED WEB SITE FOR FUN THINGS TO DO
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WELCOME! 🗽
Give us your contractually obligated B10 team and we masses of Gopher fans will huddle together on Dec.29.
 
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Dave H said:
Maybe, maybe not. But the Gophers are more likely to i would bet. No matter how much you pretend the Maryland fans that don't show up to their home games might find some bowl they never heard of as "special" there is literally no proof that will happen.
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I’d say none of the bowl games outside the CFP, NY6, and MAYBE citrus or outback would be considered special for any of the middle of the pack big ten teams
 

cjbfbp said:
They should drop the Quick Lane Bowl first. That was good enough when the opponent tie in was from the ACC but now it's back to a MACC opponent and that's humiliating for any Big Ten team to be assigned there. Luckily, the conference hasn't filled that bowl often but if Michigan State had beaten Indiana, the conference possibly would have this season.
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Drop the quick lane bowl.

Add the DQ Blizzard Bowl at US Bank Stadium!!!!
 

toma0045 said:
It should be noted that the Pinstripe has a higher selection priority than Duke’s Mayo Bowl, so even if both bowls wanted Minnesota, New York looms.
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That doesnt sound right. Link?
 

Do we really care if it’s the Dukes mayo bowl or the Pinstripe?? Those two seem to be where we belong, maybe the Music City Bowl but does it really matter?? I just can’t wait to see Athan again and show what we have to look forward to.
 

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