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Vs. 2019 Minnesota Gophers. In 12 games, NDSU would win 0 or 1. This isn't Minnesota of Jerry Kills first few years or Minnesota of the Brewster days.

We have always outclassed the Bison, now we outcoach and outprogram them as well. It's silly there is even any talk about them around here. They are 1AA.

The records you post there are great. Fact is they had the one good win against #13 Iowa. The rest of those teams just aren't or weren't good. Are they a good 1AA program? Heck yes they are, probably the best. They can't and wouldn't compete with the top of the Big Ten though on a consistent basis. And that is where 2019 and forward Gophers rank.

It’s an unknowable thing, but you sound much like SEC fans that lean on recruit rankings to decide who is best year to year. Fluke, demotivated. Personally I feel like MN 2019 probably wins a best of 7 vs Auburn 2019 despite the massive recruiting ratings differential. You apparently feel differently? Fluke win?

We better hope it’s possible to consistently outperform recruit ratings or we‘ll never arrive where we want to be. I believe the scheme, staff we have now is clearly capable of that.
 

I thought the Michigan fan reactions were funny. Some want PJ as their coach and others think Michigan would win the Big Ten West every season. Clearly delusional fanbase still.
The more they stir themselves into a frenzy, the more recruiting ammunition they give Fleck. The Gophers are outperforming the Wolverines with all Michigan's advantages; why would you go there and not here?
 

Versus 2019 MN you’re probably right. Versus MN of any other vintage not so sure. I realize some of you have a fetish for arrogant NDSU fans but fact is they’ve overachieved. Is the following inaccurate?

The Bison are 9-3 versus FBS opponents since 2006.

Records versus:

Ball State 1-0
Minnesota 2-1
C. Michigan 1-0
Wyoming 0-1
Iowa State 1-1
Kansas 1-0
Colorado St 1-0
Kansas St 1-0
#13 Iowa 1-0

It's really hard to compare. I don't care much about NDSU to be honest, my nephew goes to Fargo and goes to most games (they usually leave at halftime to get back to drinking) and I think it's great he's getting out to Frisco. They were the better team the year they beat 3-9 gophers, gophers could've had 12 games and probably only snuck out a win or two. Most years I'd argue MN would be > 500 vs NDSU.

If NDSU feels they can dominate FBS, they should make the jump.
 

I was assuming they were booing the lack of PI call. Malzahn was working the refs HARD after that play and even mentioned in his postgame presser that "the defender had his hand around his waist all the way downfield". I didn't think it was worthy of a PI call.

On a fake punt you're not getting the call.

Otherwise it would be too easy to get a cheap 1st down.
 


I believe they (Bison) have a matchup at Oregon in 2020?

Probably, and they'll get team breaking in mostly new OL and new QB.

I'll be rooting for NDSU
 


It’s an unknowable thing, but you sound much like SEC fans that lean on recruit rankings to decide who is best year to year. Fluke, demotivated. Personally I feel like MN 2019 probably wins a best of 7 vs Auburn 2019 despite the massive recruiting ratings differential. You apparently feel differently? Fluke win?

We better hope it’s possible to consistently outperform recruit ratings or we‘ll never arrive where we want to be. I believe the scheme, staff we have now is clearly capable of that.

There's quite a difference between a 1AA team and a high quality Power 5 conference football squad, no?

I don't pretend Mankato State would win 6 of 12 against NDSU. They are in the same class NDSU is where it pertains to Division 2 ball, they've dominated recently. NDSU would likely win 10 or 11 out of 12 against the Mavs. That is not saying kids can't outperform anyone, etc.

What it is saying is there is a difference between Division 2 and Division 1 ball. Just as there is a difference between 1AA ball, and the top of major conference D1 ball.
 




My favorite is that many Auburn fans are trying to rationalize that it's somehow unfair to them that they haven't played higher ranking teams in their bowl match ups - even claiming that it gives their opponents some sort of insurmountable psychological advantage.

From a user 'au701948':



"I agree Minnesota played the better game..No Doubt about it. What I do not like, and for this you cannot blame the coaches, is our lack of luck of the draw in Bowl opponents.

Regardless of how hard you prepare and how much you make it known that you have to be all "business," you cannot overcome human nature with the immediate advantage

Minnesota started with back 3-1/2 weeks ago when the pairings were announced. Minnesota immediately had the built-in human emotion advantage of making their "mark"

on the college football community. It was worse against UCF, but was still in effect with today's Minnesota game. They, Minnesota, had an un-coachable and innate advantage

by instantly seeing their chance to become more relevant by winning against a "brand" football name. I do not mean to take something away from Minnesota's effort. It is just

simple to me their "brand" was not, in their mind, at the same level as an Auburn. The matches lately have lead to our inability to win against someone with that primal emotion,

desire and talent to make their name at someone else's expense.

Given the circumstances and their talent, we were beat on both lines of scrimmage today. I hate the game results probably more than most. However, I hope to be looking for

ward to Auburn doing the same to someone else next Bowl Season. Just my humble opinion and perspective
."

I can't really disagree with this poster's general premise that it's easier to get up for an opponent who's ahead of you in the college football pecking order, which Auburn certainly is, or was. It's the same mentality when one of the Dakota schools come to play at TCF. It's their Super Bowl. Beating us means everything to them, while it's not as easy for us to get up for a game like that, as it is to play against Auburn.
 

I just took another peek at the Auburn board. That fanbase is an emotional wreck right now. It’s worse than anything I’ve ever seen on GH. I’m surprised this game meant that much to them.
 

There's quite a difference between a 1AA team and a high quality Power 5 conference football squad, no?

I don't pretend Mankato State would win 6 of 12 against NDSU. They are in the same class NDSU is where it pertains to Division 2 ball, they've dominated recently. NDSU would likely win 10 or 11 out of 12 against the Mavs. That is not saying kids can't outperform anyone, etc.

What it is saying is there is a difference between Division 2 and Division 1 ball. Just as there is a difference between 1AA ball, and the top of major conference D1 ball.

Just like there’s a difference between MN and Auburn, or Big Ten West and SEC, sure. Why bother to play the games.

I tend to believe these attitudes stem more from hating annoying fans than an actual belief good lower level programs can never compete with higher tiers of teams/purported talent which is objectively false. I get it, though. Some fans are turds and refuse to accept reality. NDSU is not Ohio State. LSU is not an NFL caliber team. It gets annoying.
 

I don't go to Buckyville often, but it was funny to read their reaction to Gopher game (pre rosebowl)

I realize we do similar here, but they are a salty group
 



I don't go to Buckyville often, but it was funny to read their reaction to Gopher game (pre rosebowl)

I realize we do similar here, but they are a salty group
Perhaps, but we clearly can get pretty childish on our board as well.
 


I can't really disagree with this poster's general premise that it's easier to get up for an opponent who's ahead of you in the college football pecking order, which Auburn certainly is, or was. It's the same mentality when one of the Dakota schools come to play at TCF. It's their Super Bowl. Beating us means everything to them, while it's not as easy for us to get up for a game like that, as it is to play against Auburn.

How is it not possible to get up for any competition? Any of us that have played sports treated every single event like a championship. If nothing else fear of failure and embarrassment should motivate even the laziest athlete. If one can’t get up for a competition that isn’t against children or senior citizens, ie way out of one’s league, particularly given the real chance of defeat then I don’t know what to say. This argument has never made a shred of sense to me.
 

Many "fans" on our boards were saying we should wait until the end of the season before considering extending PJ's contract... We should give him another raise and extend it at least another season.
I agree, I live in Northern Minnesota and I’ve never seen such enthusiasm for Gopher football, everyone up here is rowing!
 

How is it not possible to get up for any competition? Any of us that have played sports treated every single event like a championship. If you didn’t then I don’t know what to say. This argument has never made a shred of sense to me.

There's a reason handicappers & oddsmakers have used terms like "let down game", "look ahead game", "must win" & "pay back game" since the inception of the point spread.

Sports are not based on athleticism alone. The emotional, or psychological aspect is huge. That's why oddsmakers care if it's homecoming, or if the team must win to make the playoffs, or if their coach is retiring after the game. Things like that matter. If they didn't, the best team would always win.
 

How is it not possible to get up for any competition? Any of us that have played sports treated every single event like a championship. If nothing else fear of failure and embarrassment should motivate even the laziest athlete. If one can’t get up for a competition that isn’t against children or senior citizens, ie way out of one’s league, particularly given the real chance of defeat then I don’t know what to say. This argument has never made a shred of sense to me.

If you're telling me Gopher players view Wisconsin and IA the same as they view playing Eastern Illinois....


There was a third member of our team for SDSU game who won tickets through work. He's not a huge college football fan and was about game

"It's only memorable if we lose"
 

On a fake punt you're not getting the call.

Otherwise it would be too easy to get a cheap 1st down.

It's also in the rule book that it's not a PI 7-3-7-c.

Defensive pass interference is contact beyond the neutral zone by a Team B player whose intent to impede an eligible opponent is obvious and it could prevent the opponent the opportunity of receiving a catchable forward pass. When in question, a legal forward pass is catchable. Defensive pass interference occurs only after a legal forward pass is thrown. (A.R. 7-3-8:VII, VIII, XI and XII): It is not defensive pass interference (A.R. 7-3-8:III)(A.R. 7-3-9:III):
  1. When, after the snap, opposing players immediately charge and establish contact with opponents at a point that is within one yard beyond the neutral zone.
  2. When two or more eligible players are making a simultaneous and bona fide attempt to reach, catch or bat the pass. Eligible players of either team have equal rights to the ball. (A.R. 7-3-8:IX)
  3. When a Team B player legally contacts an opponent before the pass is thrown. (A.R. 7-3-8:III and X)
  4. When there is contact by a Team B player that otherwise would be pass interference during a down in which a Team A potential kicker, from scrimmage kick formation, simulates a scrimmage kick by throwing the ball high and deep.

You'd think a head coach would know this.
 


I agree, I live in Northern Minnesota and I’ve never seen such enthusiasm for Gopher football, everyone up here is rowing!
North of Duluth or South of Duluth? That's the cutoff for "up north."
 


If you're telling me Gopher players view Wisconsin and IA the same as they view playing Eastern Illinois....


There was a third member of our team for SDSU game who won tickets through work. He's not a huge college football fan and was about game

"It's only memorable if we lose"

If they don’t that’s disappointing. They can easily lose to Eastern Illinois... There is a reason coaches try to get their laziest players to not overlook opponents. Youre correct some people are not as good of competitors as others. That’s why the games are played.

True or false, the talent level differential on paper between Auburn and Minnesota is greater than the talent differential between MN and NDSU?
 

There's a reason handicappers & oddsmakers have used terms like "let down game", "look ahead game", "must win" & "pay back game" since the inception of the point spread.

Sports are not based on athleticism alone. The emotional, or psychological aspect is huge. That's why oddsmakers care if it's homecoming, or if the team must win to make the playoffs, or if their coach is retiring after the game. Things like that matter. If they didn't, the best team would always win.

Then that team isn’t as good as their opponent. It’s pretty simple, really. ”Letdowns” are not an unavoidable outcome.
 



There's quite a difference between a 1AA team and a high quality Power 5 conference football squad, no?

I don't pretend Mankato State would win 6 of 12 against NDSU. They are in the same class NDSU is where it pertains to Division 2 ball, they've dominated recently. NDSU would likely win 10 or 11 out of 12 against the Mavs. That is not saying kids can't outperform anyone, etc.

What it is saying is there is a difference between Division 2 and Division 1 ball. Just as there is a difference between 1AA ball, and the top of major conference D1 ball.
LOL at this whole post. Mankato is not even close to the same status in DII as NDSU is in I-AA. Also, NDSU would beat Mankato by 50 in every game they played - and that's being very generous.
 

If they don’t that’s disappointing. They can easily lose to Eastern Illinois... There is a reason coaches try to get their laziest players to not overlook opponents. Youre correct some people are not as good of competitors as others. That’s why the games are played.

True or false, the talent level differential on paper between Auburn and Minnesota is greater than the talent differential between MN and NDSU?

I'm not here to debate talent level between Aub vs Mn and Mn vs NDSU

There is an emotional element to games, all I am saying. Gophers aren't going to be as hyped to play NDSU as Auburn. Auburn isn't going to be as hyped to play as us as Alabama. I've said before, and I"ll say it again, we could steal every NDSU coach and recruit and we wouldn't win shit in the B1G. When it's a one game situation, all bets are off
 
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North of Duluth or South of Duluth? That's the cutoff for "up north."

Having grown up in Northfield and lived in Dakota Cty for over 20 years, I consider Blaine and beyond to be "up North"
 




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