All Things Royce White Thread UPDATED 10/25: Royce cut by 76ers

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BleedGopher said:
I just stumbled upon this Grantland documentary on Royce's anxiety issues
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Money quote:

"This industry [basketball] is built to defeat somebody like you."

Royce White. Always the victim. Nothing is ever his fault.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Money quote:

"This industry [basketball] is built to defeat somebody like you."

Royce White. Always the victim. Nothing is ever his fault.
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Sounds like the common excuse of millions in prison.

When is a guy who screws up just admit to Jeff Foxworthy's comment:

My Daddy was ok.
My Momma was great.
I'm just a $hithead.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Money quote:

"This industry [basketball] is built to defeat somebody like you."

Royce White. Always the victim. Nothing is ever his fault.
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Absolutely ridiculous. I think there are plenty of professions where Royce would not have gotten shot after shot after the foul-ups he has had. Basketball seems to be perfectly designed to give somebody like him opportunity after opportunity after opportunity.
 


Royce White currently going off on Adrian Wojnarowski with Yahoo.

Of his last 25 tweets, 24 mentioned and were attacking Adrian and the 25th was just a RT.

Speechless.

And number 25. Yikes.

@Highway_30: @WojYahooNBA #1 respected writer! Well your going 2 lose credibility here, cuz I just printed the article out and got my highlighter ready.

I guess he just couldn't let AJ Barker one up him.
 


And some more.

@Highway_30: @WojYahooNBA ?! If the rockets made only 1 OFFICIAL statement, who are your sources? where are your quotes? I took journalism, cant fool me!
 

@teamziller: Royce White lashes out at Adrian Wojnarowski http://t.co/aDT3C3lz

Rockets rookie Royce White lashed out at Yahoo! columnist Adrian Wojnarowski, who last week wrote a remarkably even-handed piece on how White's anxiety disorder could cost him his NBA career.

On November 16, Yahoo!'s Adrian Wojnarowski published what most everyone considered an even-handed look at the stand-off between rookie Royce White, who suffered from anxiety disorder, and the Houston Rockets. Woj's central thesis was that while White's mission to bring awareness to anxiety disorder, and to be the voice for the many, many who suffer from mental illness, his method was going to end his basketball career. Without a basketball career, White isn't likely to have a massive platform. Ergo, White needs to take some of the pressure off of himself to be the nation's leading anxiety advocate so that he can function as a (very promising) NBA player. In the long term, that would help the cause (and White's own journey) more.

White apparently disagrees.

Royce White
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@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA You can run from a conversation if you want, but being able to print something doesn't make it true...
24 Nov 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite
Royce White
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@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA And When the truth comes I'll be posting your article EVERYWHERE, then we'll see who's career need SAVING!
24 Nov 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite
Royce White
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@Highway_30
Sorry Tweeps, I'm up early WORKING on these #StigmaPushers like @WojYahooNBA < This guy needs his #journalism card snatched.
24 Nov 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite
Royce White
✔
@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA I bet my twitter "rant" does bother you, takes the filter out... Now lets talk platform!
24 Nov 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite
Royce White
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@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA My platform is built on GENUINENESS and HONESTY, your is built on... Say whatever you need to say at the time...
24 Nov 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite

It goes on and on like that. Twenty-seven tweets at Woj in one hour, and he's still going as we publish this. He's taken exception to a few specific lines from the Yahoo! piece, but is primarily railing on the writer. But it's all a sideshow, because this isn't driving real talk about the issue at hand, which is what accommodations should employers make for employees with mental illness. Yelling at someone who peeks into the situation as a part of their job doesn't help further that important conversation.
 

Honestly there are few people in this world I have more disdain for than Royce White. He is clearly a nut case and is using this anxiety as a crutch. I can pretty much guarantee that he is setting this up for a lawsuit which I pray to god he loses. I'm just hoping the Rockets have some recourse to recover the money the wasted on this scum of a human being.
 

PeanutButterTubbyTime said:
Honestly there are few people in this world I have more disdain for than Royce White. He is clearly a nut case and is using this anxiety as a crutch. I can pretty much guarantee that he is setting this up for a lawsuit which I pray to god he loses. I'm just hoping the Rockets have some recourse to recover the money the wasted on this scum of a human being.
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Appears that way to me.
 



Maybe Royce should get an acupuncture session and then get some counseling from A.J. Barker's mom's best friend.
 

I respect what Royce is doing. It's nice to see somebody stand up for what they believe in rather than listen to the media and haters. I think others get pissed because they don't have the balls to do what he's doing. If he decides to not play in the NBA it's up to him.
 

Parski1 said:
I respect what Royce is doing. It's nice to see somebody stand up for what they believe in rather than listen to the media and haters. I think others get pissed because they don't have the balls to do what he's doing. If he decides to not play in the NBA it's up to him.
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And that's fine. He seems to think its his right to do all this AND play in the NBA and that the Rockets should be bowing down to him.

He can stand up for what he believes in all he wants. However, when the Rockets nor any other team will play him I will expect him to take that joyously and not be upset by it.
 

Wouldn't success in the league despite anxiety be a far more effective way of being an advocate than refusing to play unless everything is perfectly in his favor. This act isn't to help further a worthy cause its more related to him being selfish and self centered. My opinion of this gallant endeavor Royce feels he is embarking on is completely the opposite, Royce isn't being an advocate for this disorder he's becoming another example of someone succumbing to it.
 



cjcarter8 said:
Wouldn't success in the league despite anxiety be a far more effective way of being an advocate than refusing to play unless everything is perfectly in his favor. This act isn't to help further a worthy cause its more related to him being selfish and self centered. My opinion of this gallant endeavor Royce feels he is embarking on is completely the opposite, Royce isn't being an advocate for this disorder he's becoming another example of someone succumbing to it.
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+1
Showing that you can be successful at a high level despite his problems would go much farther in support of the cause then whining about it and using it as an excuse for everything that goes wrong.
 

Can GH Admin please lock this Thread? The guy never added a thing to the Gophers except some headaches and problems. I can't believe people still talk about him. Unless you are bored, I guess.
 

Dr.Don said:
Can GH Admin please lock this Thread? The guy never added a thing to the Gophers except some headaches and problems. I can't believe people still talk about him. Unless you are bored, I guess.
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Don't open the thread. Problem solved.
 

http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2012/11/26/royce-whites-unclear-intentions/

When I was a teenager, I was diagnosed with a chronic, less-severe form of depression called “Dysthymia”. Prior to my diagnosis, I struggled with my confidence and self-esteem, and I met with a counselor for a time as a form of treatment. There are factors linked to the cause of the condition, including genetic predisposition, social isolation and poor social structure. Of these I fit the bill on the last two, as I was a bit of an outcast all throughout my school years. Being diagnosed in the early onset phase (before the age of 21), I was more likely to develop a concurrent condition, so I make up part of the 50% of those with the disorder who also deal with anxiety. For years I ignored my depression, but in recent months I’ve stopped hiding from it, and dealt with it head on.

Perhaps I hid from it as a teenager and into my early twenties because I felt that the people around me wouldn’t understand, or that acknowledging it would mean that something was wrong with me. Before, I’d ignore my lows, and hope that I could just snap out of it, or that I would feel better, but now I know that’s not how these things work. Now, I acknowledge my lows, and try to negotiate my way through those negative thoughts.

For instance, I finally left my high school job for what I thought would be my career as a personal trainer this past August. Once I applied for the job, I was quickly contacted by the company, rushed through the interview process and hired. Getting the job was everything that I had worked through school for, and I should have been ecstatic. But I wasn’t. Instead, all that I could think of was things like “I’m not sure that I’m good enough,” “Can I make a difference?” and “I don’t know if I can do this.” As it turned out, my concerns were for nothing. In just a month, my clients saw results, and I connected with them by doing things their previous trainers wouldn’t do for them. I came in early and stayed late to make sure that they were successful.

But you know what? There were many days when it took everything I had to put on a happy face – to try my best to be upbeat when all that I felt like doing was shrinking from the moment, bowing away from the pressure. There was pressure to make sure that my clients’ time and money were being well-spent. There was pressure to make sure that I was meeting the goals of the company. And there was pressure to make sure that I was setting a good example for each side.

There was one night in September, a couple weeks into my supposed dream job, that I recall having a good day at work, but coming completely apart once I got home. I was as low and as anxious as I had ever been, and I didn’t know what to do. I would write out text messages to friends so that I could have somebody to talk to, but I would just end up deleting them before sending them, thinking I would only be a burden to them in doing so. So I suffered in silence. I decided that I would eventually need a different career path for my own sake. The pressure became too much.

Naturally, when I heard the Houston Rockets’ Royce White was fighting for better treatment and discussing his anxiety disorder so openly on Twitter, I thought that it was great that he was using his platform to raise awareness. Okay, so he came off as throwing the Rockets under the bus, but it didn’t seem like he meant to, in my eyes, at the time. To me, it seemed he was simply doing whatever it took to make sure that his health was being looked after. Admittedly, I was probably a little biased in my point of view. It was difficult to read some of the ignorant and rude comments people were making to White and those supporting him, but I clicked “follow” on @Highway_30′s page anyway..

Then I saw this retweet from one of his followers, and it resonated with me on a whole other level – one that made me change my entire opinion on Royce’s actions:

I took offense to this comment because I know that I can not only get to work, but that I can perform my job responsibilities despite managing both depression and anxiety. I also know that I can manage to meet my obligations to three different websites on a weekly basis. Finally, I know that I can make and maintain personal relationships and friendships despite my diagnosis. Simply put: my depression does not define me.

By letting it define him – at least in the public eye, and mostly via his Twitter rants – it seems Royce White is hurting the perception of those with depression and anxiety by making people think that people with those disorders are less-capable because of them, and that’s not helping the cause, which was Royce’s goal in being so open about his condition in the first place.

On the 16th of this November, Yahoo!’s Adrian Wojnarowski wrote of White:

White has left the Rockets, and there’s no telling when he’ll return. Before long, White will lose the platform that he so desperately wants to advocate for mental illness. He’s fighting a noble fight, with the most noble of intentions, and perhaps someday he can be remembered as a trailblazer on the issue of anxiety disorders.

If Houston gives up on him, White will struggle to find another team willing to make even close to the commitment – if any at all. White has turned down NBA D-League assignments, missed practices and conditioning workouts and tried to convince Rockets officials that his anxiety order would be much, much better if they would simply play him in games. This isn’t a negotiation, and never will be.

Houston redid White’s contract so it could pay for White’s RVs and car services on trips, because of his fear of flying. The Rockets have let him come and go this season without fining him. They owe him that patience and understanding, but they don’t owe him playing time. It’s earned in the NBA, the way three Houston rookies are trying to earn it.

“Royce White’s battle with Rockets over anxiety disorder could cost him NBA career”- Adrian Wojnarowski (11/16/12)

Some people got a little indignant at Wojnarowski for this post, but he does raise some excellent points while also acknowledging that he isn’t belittling White’s struggle. Wojnarowski goes on to cite other NBAers that have made successful careers for themselves while also being positive mental health advocates. They all have something in common: they play, and they advocate on the side. But if White is really intent on exploiting his condition as leverage for playing time, while simultaneously playing the martyr, he is only further damaging the image of those with depression and anxiety.

I, like many others who struggle with anxiety disorder, want to see Royce be successful on the court and raise awareness off it, because he has such a great chance to make a positive impact. Royce’s Twitter account is a platform, and it’s a mighty one at that. To be a successful advocate, he needs a platform. To be able to raise the most possible awareness for mental illness, he needs to stay in the NBA, and he needs to make the greatest possible impact he can on the court. If he does that, his platform will be there, and he’ll be able to make the positive impact he so badly desires off the court.

Unfortunately, that off-court impact hasn’t been very positive to date. Has Royce White helped anyone with his actions so far? With the way he went off on Wojnarowksi in the wake of the article, and how he has approached the situation with the Rockets, and the way he has subsequently interacted with his followers, he isn’t doing anything to change the perception of mental illness or removed any of the stigma surrounding it. It would be hard to argue that Royce has positively impacted his own career or image with this stand either. After all, people are still saying, “Suck it up!” and ignorant things like the tweet I posted above.

If Royce isn’t helping others or himself by doing this, then what’s the point? Sure, he pretty clearly does want to help others in addition to having a successful basketball career, but he’s not on the fast track to do much of either if he’s going about it this way.

If this is really about his anxiety, that’s fine. But maybe – and I say this with all due respect – basketball really isn’t the career path for Royce White, much like being a personal trainer wasn’t the path for me. If this is about playing time, Royce should just come out and say it – but he shouldn’t use anxiety as leverage while making his employer out to be the bad guy. All that does is worsen the public perception of those with depression and other anxiety disorders. If his current problem with his situation is perceived as being all about leverage, which is increasingly becoming the case, it’s likely that his platform to help others will disappear and so will some of his respectability.

I supported Royce at first because I felt that I could relate to him on some level – that I could understand what he was going through. As the days have gone by, I’ve realized that he isn’t speaking for me. He’s speaking for himself. Royce should be as open as he wants about his mental illness, but there’s a right way and a wrong way to go about it. And despite his well-voiced opinion, it seems as if he’s hurting the cause he claims to be fighting for, not helping. If there was ever a time where the old adage, “The road to Hell is paved with good intentions” this may be that time.
 


Someone is going to have to give me the Cliff's Notes version of that paper. :)
 

What is the article talking about? They sent him to the D-League to practice and ride a bus, he has refused to go.

"One such approach could be loaning White's employment to another pro basketball league where all or almost all games are played within driving distance. In that circumstance, he could develop his game against talented pro basketball players and, hopefully, gradually overcome his health issues. The Israel Super Basketball League (Ligat Winner Sal) is one such league. During time in another league, White's NBA employment rights would remain with the Rockets.

Alternatively, White's contract could be terminated so that he can play in this driving-friendly type of league."

@Joe_Maigaard: Lol the student section program said "Don't worry, ISU no longer has Royce White who is currently being paid to sit on his couch and tweet"

If they really put this in the student program, that's funny.
 

He was a first round draft choice, it doesn't matter where he plays he is guaranteed that money be it the NBA or the d-leauge, what is it 3 million or something, if he is so dumb he is going to throw that away, so be it, let him get a job at Walmart and see what that does to his health, as the saying goes you are not in kansas anymore toto.
 

http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/royce-white-really-going-out-guns-blazing-based-woj-twitter-1847739/ - Still some of my favorites, Royce thinking he can get Woj fired and stating he can't get fired for his medical condition. Royce had this planned out before he even got drafted.

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA Lol... So how good you are should determine if you get the proper support for a medical condition? Baffling!

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@wojyahoonba Things in the article aren't true, and they were REPRESENTED as fact, not even a source to back them up! Where do they do that?

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA I guess "lash out" is a word they use for young ppl speaking up for themselves now a days!

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA Well I "lashed out" due to a blatant lack of ACKNOWLEDGEMENT and RESPECT of my disorder as a medical condition, I am owed that!

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA You can run from a conversation if you want, but being able to print something doesn't make it true...

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA And When the truth comes I'll be posting your article EVERYWHERE, then we'll see who's career need SAVING!

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA When the dust settles, some will RETRACT their statements and some will reaffirm theirs! Im definitely going 2 be the 2nd, you?

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@wojyahoonba And When the truth comes I'll be posting your article EVERYWHERE, then we'll see who's career needs* SAVING!


Royce White ‏@Highway_30
Sorry Tweeps, I'm up early WORKING on these #StigmaPushers like @WojYahooNBA < This guy needs his #journalism card snatched.

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA Im owed asking for safe work conditions, including acknowledgement of my disorder being a medical condition, and protocol!

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
Sorry Tweeps, I know today was suppose to be positive, but @WojYahooNBA pushed the start time back with his IRRESPONSIBLE JOURNALISM

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@wojyahoonba I NEVER "Railed" against seeing their doctor, who, by the way, now agrees with me and has seen first hand the "Inconsistency".

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@wojyahoonba You wrote a nice...long... MISREPRESENTING article, I think it merits a equally long TRUTHFUL response! Royce White's battle with Rockets over anxiety disorder could cost him NBA career - Yahoo! Sports


Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA The SCARY part is your considered a "respected" journalist! Shows the world we live in if writing 1/4 truths gets you that.

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA The amount of SUPPORT, or accommodation can only be decided based on the illness, it's a individualistic condition!

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@nbaseason @wojyahoonba Can't be fired for a medical condition clown... Back to scheduled programming!

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA is driving that absurd? Is asking for organization and communication that absurd? Is asking for acknowledgement that absurd!

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA If there is special treatment going on, it'd be ppl thinking professional teams don't have 2 adhere to standard workforce code.

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA I bet my twitter "rant" does bother you, takes the filter out... Now lets talk platform!

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA My platform is built on GENUINENESS and HONESTY, your is built on... Say whatever you need to say at the time...

Royce White ‏@Highway_30

@WojYahooNBA Even if saying things w/o facts or sources works for you, it doesn't make you a journalist, your impersonating a journalist.

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA Lol I bet if we look in YOUR "contract" your not fulfilling some of your "obligations" to #Yahoo

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA Think #Yahoo cares if their writers, have sources to back their articles, facts, or does it say "write w/e" in your "contract"?

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA #1 respected writer! Well your going 2 lose credibility here, cuz I just printed the article out and got my highlighter ready.


Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA ?! If the rockets made only 1 OFFICIAL statement, who are your sources? where are your quotes? I took journalism, cant fool me!
 

9194Gophs said:
http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/royce-white-really-going-out-guns-blazing-based-woj-twitter-1847739/ - Still some of my favorites, Royce thinking he can get Woj fired and stating he can't get fired for his medical condition. Royce had this planned out before he even got drafted.

Royce White ‏@Highway_30
@WojYahooNBA ?! If the rockets made only 1 OFFICIAL statement, who are your sources? where are your quotes? I took journalism, cant fool me!
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Hahaha, my favorite one of them all!
 


Safe to say Royce has some serious issues, not that we didn't already know that. I hope he eventually figures out that the world doesn't revolve around him.
 


Royce tweet: "Asking for safe work conditions is a right, not a complaint! #Accountable"

Go Gophers!!
 

BleedGopher said:
Royce tweet: "Asking for safe work conditions is a right, not a complaint! #Accountable"

Go Gophers!!
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Safe work conditions? Does the plane they wanted him to fly on not have the seat cushions that can double as a flotation device?
 

9194Gophs said:
Can't believe I skimmed past that one, your right, that's great! Bet Iowa State will be giving him an honorary degree & hanging his jersey in the near future.
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I know this is a facetious post but ISU only hangs your jersey if you have received your degree....;)
 


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