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Rest assured, if the Big Ten presidents vote to allow play starting Oct 10, Gabel and Walz will work it out so that the Gophers can participate in the season, with the players/staff who opt in.

The questions right now are: 1) is this vote anything more than fakenews by Ohio State sports media, trying to sell subscriptions and get followers, and 2) even if there is a new vote tomorrow, what has changed since the last 3-11 vote to change the minds of 5 or 6 presidents?
 


MplsGopher said:
Rest assured, if the Big Ten presidents vote to allow play starting Oct 10, Gabel and Walz will work it out so that the Gophers can participate in the season, with the players/staff who opt in.

The questions right now are: 1) is this vote anything more than fakenews by Ohio State sports media, trying to sell subscriptions and get followers, and 2) even if there is a new vote tomorrow, what has changed since the last 3-11 vote to change the minds of 5 or 6 presidents?
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Wild internet speculation is the Big Ten was forced to produce bylaws, associated documents on the vote to cancel season as a result of the Nebraska lawsuit. The associated rumor is a lower number of the COP/C than you indicated is needed to change course. The tertiary rumor is some presidents are under political pressure or disallowed by governor decree to cancel the season no matter what (See Walz, et al). I’m not sure that is totally out of the realm of possibility given what we’ve seen.

Is ithis all baseless internet rumor, a re-vote to meet technical bylaw specifications, a sea change in attitude and approach. Who knows.
 



HoustonTXGopher said:
Let me go out on a limb for you, maybe it has something to do with the way we reported the Covid deaths? Maybe all Covid deaths being subsidized had something to do with an inflated cause of death?
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If anything, they are being under reported. You can't prove that they are being over reported. Thats BS.
 

WriterGoph said:
I love how everyone who doesn't vote for Trump is either Antifa or BLM. Can you at least have some of your own original thoughts instead of regurgitating Donald's Tweets?
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The Antifa and BLM thing is weird.

I'm not sure anyone spouting off has met anyone actually associated with any of those groups.... the hateful rhetoric is so far off I'm suprised they even can believe it.

The folk going off about those groups at this point are describing entirely different imaginary things .... and I say that as someone who actually met some antifa folks years and years ago, and those few folks were grade A douchbags .... but they're still nothing like what the folks freaking out about them talk about. Like not even close.

They're describing entirely different things and just the name is the same.

The cognitive dissonance must be epic when they see BLM sings at MLB parks and such. Do they think MLB is a big supporter of riots or something? Bunch of rich athletes are big on rioting or something? Does that make sense? Or maybe MLB isn't big into riots and they're actually talking about BLM and such things ... and there's more to it / it's something different?


Folks gotta quit getting their ideas about other people ... from folks who clearly have a vested interest in tearing down those other people.
 
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You're entitled to your speculation. As you say, it is all baseless at this moment.

It will come out.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
The Antifa and BLM thing is weird.

I'm not sure anyone spouting off has met anyone actually associated with any of those groups.... the hateful rhetoric is so far off I'm suprised they even can believe it.

The folk going off about those groups at this point are describing entirely different imaginary things .... and I say that as someone who actually met some antifa folks years and years ago, and those few folks were grade A douchbags .... but they're still nothing like what the folks freaking out about them talk about. Like not even close.

They're describing entirely different things and just the name is the same.

The cognitive dissonance must be epic when they see BLM sings at MLB parks and such. Do they think MLB is a big supporter of riots or something? Bunch of rich athletes are big on rioting or something? Does that make sense?


Folks gotta quit getting their ideas about other people ... from folks who clearly have a vested interest in tearing down those other people.
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I've touched on this in other threads (and in the OTB, when I was still posting there). There is a definite psychology to it all.

I hypothesize it works something like this: people have these (sometimes quite extreme) beliefs, simmering on the back burners of their mind/subconscious, but those can't come forward and get cemented into fully fledged beliefs .... unless someone else comes out and says that out loud.

Well, the internet has given a public voice to every single person, even fake people/accounts. So there's a lot more being said out loud. And we also have a very prominent political figure these days, who is repeating and saying some of these things out loud.


All it takes is a mind that wants to believe something ... and a public "person" who says that thing out loud .... and *poof*, it becomes cemented in that mind as a real belief.

Once that happens, it's extremely difficult to "undo" in that mind. Evidence, mostly doesn't even matter. Just like a religious belief. It's self-reinforcing. About the only thing that can really have an impact, is if something bad happens directly to that person or someone very close to them, that goes against the belief. That can undo it, but even then not always.
 



A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
The Antifa and BLM thing is weird.

I'm not sure anyone spouting off has met anyone actually associated with any of those groups.... the hateful rhetoric is so far off I'm suprised they even can believe it.

The folk going off about those groups at this point are describing entirely different imaginary things .... and I say that as someone who actually met some antifa folks years and years ago, and those few folks were grade A douchbags .... but they're still nothing like what the folks freaking out about them talk about. Like not even close.

They're describing entirely different things and just the name is the same.

The cognitive dissonance must be epic when they see BLM sings at MLB parks and such. Do they think MLB is a big supporter of riots or something? Bunch of rich athletes are big on rioting or something? Does that make sense? Or maybe MLB isn't big into riots and they're actually talking about BLM and such things ... and there's more to it / it's something different?


Folks gotta quit getting their ideas about other people ... from folks who cleyesarly have a vested interest in tearing down those other people.
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I guess I just read the charter of BLM, bhe criminal backgrounds is several key leaders to form my view of BLM
 
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I'm not sure if this is ultimately a good or bad thing. Each conference is entitled to protect its own proprietary information and intellectual property.

https://247sports.com/Article/Nebra...ancel-fall-football-season-Sept-12-151003698/

Court order says Big Ten must turn over documents
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An attorney representing the eight Nebraska football players suing the Big Ten provided an update on the case, which includes a court order requiring the conference to turn over documents related to its decision to postpone the football season.

Mike Flood of Omaha, Neb., the lead attorney in the case, released the following statement Wednesday:

“Today, the Lancaster County District Court ordered the Big Ten Conference to produce more information and documents regarding the ‘vote,’ as well as the governing documents related to the decision-making process. The Court’s Order recognizes the time-sensitive nature of the lawsuit and imposes a September 12 deadline for the Big Ten to produce responsive documents. The Plaintiff’s retain the right to use traditional discovery methods, including depositions, as the case moves forward

“Together with co-counsel Mark Laughlin and Pat Cooper, Partners at Fraser Stryker Law Firm in Omaha, Nebraska, our next step will be to visit with our clients regarding the Court’s Order and take the most appropriate next step.”
 


Also, if the Big Ten could ultimately use this as justification for expelling Nebraska from the conference, that would be my dream come true!
 



oak_street1981 said:
I guess I just read the charter of BLM, bhe criminal backgrounds is several key leaders to form my view of BLM
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But you're smart enough to understand that the heavy majority of people who vote Biden this fall are not members or actually not very familiar with either organization, right?

This would be like saying that every Trump voter is in the KKK or is in a gun-toting militia. These are major extremes.
 

WriterGoph said:
But you're smart enough to understand that the heavy majority of people who vote Biden this fall are not members or actually not very familiar with either organization, right?

This would be like saying that every Trump voter is in the KKK or is in a gun-toting militia. These are major extremes.
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No BLM is getting massive support from corporate America, yet their charter shows they hate America. KKK is an irrelevant entity, or at least has been since the Democrat Party stopped supporting it.
 

^^^ like I said in the other thread: people will choose to believe what they want to believe is true. That’s how human minds work. We see it in religion and even in science (have you ever actually seen an atom yourself? Doubtful, but you believe they exist).
Evidence and sound logic is really secondary.

When the common folk are getting as bad as they’re getting, at some point you have to consider democracy as intractable.
 

oak_street1981 said:
No BLM is getting massive support from corporate America, yet their charter shows they hate America. KKK is an irrelevant entity, or at least has been since the Democrat Party stopped supporting it.
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Help me out here... what does "they hate America" mean?

That's such a vague statement, it's hard to know what that means.
 

oak_street1981 said:
No BLM is getting massive support from corporate America, yet their charter shows they hate America. KKK is an irrelevant entity, or at least has been since the Democrat Party stopped supporting it.
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Okay, so you "righties" are just fighting the good fight against most of corporate America and anyone that is supporting a social movement for racial equality?
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
Help me out here... what does "they hate America" mean?

That's such a vague statement, it's hard to know what that means.
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BLM wants the traditional family structure to go away.
BLM would like to end our economic system

BLM embraces victimhood and is pretending the US is like 1923 Alabama.
 


oak_street1981 said:
BLM wants the traditional family structure to go away.
BLM would like to end our economic system

BLM embraces victimhood and is pretending the US is like 1923 Alabama.
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Lol don't they want their families to not be broken up so they'd in turn be more "traditional"
 


A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
Help me out here... what does "they hate America" mean?

That's such a vague statement, it's hard to know what that means.
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Like what does “black lives matter” mean?
They should say blacks that were killed by police as that is their single agenda.
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It’s fine though. A scientist at Mayo who researches genetic cardiac diseases (which covid is not) tweeted that myocarditis shouldn’t be a reason to postpone football.
 

oak_street1981 said:
BLM wants the traditional family structure to go away.
BLM would like to end our economic system

BLM embraces victimhood and is pretending the US is like 1923 Alabama.
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What is a traditional family structure, and who had/has the authority to decree it as such?
 


oak_street1981 said:
BLM wants the traditional family structure to go away.
BLM would like to end our economic system

BLM embraces victimhood and is pretending the US is like 1923 Alabama.
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You're way off base big time. Take these comments to the off topic board where there are many more mis-truths and lies. I'll leave it at that.
 

oak_street1981 said:
BLM wants the traditional family structure to go away.
BLM would like to end our economic system

BLM embraces victimhood and is pretending the US is like 1923 Alabama.
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Again, you operate in a place of extreme generalizations. It's hard to have a conversation with you. The Black Lives Matter organization may have more extreme views on some stuff, but that is completely different than the 100 million+ people who support Black Lives Matter as a MOVEMENT for racial equality. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. I'm sorry it's so hard for you to admit that racial inequality is a very real thing in 2020 America. It must be frustrating to see change happening.
 



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