All Things 2024 College Football D2 and D3 Thread

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Tommyboy said:
With all of the upper mobile teams, D2 and D3 have less talent. The MIAC other then SJU, should participate in the the 6A tournament, if you look most of the guys at SJU played at these schools, bring back STU to make it interesting.
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There is no possible way a sober person wrote this word salad.
 


GophersInIowa said:
I'm still amazed at what Mt Union continues to do. They've had two seasons in the past 34 where they've lost 2 games. The other 32 they've lost 0 or 1. Amazing.
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That kind of domination can lead to being "St. Thomased" out of the league. The American Southwest Conference practically disbanded last year for similar reasons. As much as Mount Union's domination is amazing, so is the patience of the Ohio conference. I suppose part of it is that they probably don't dominate in all sports.
 

Two big games in the NSIC this weekend.

Minnesota Duluth Vs. Augustana. Two conference powerhouses going head-to-head. UMD’s only loss is to MSU Moorhead, while Augustana lost to South Dakota State and also MSU Moorhead. This is one that could have playoff implications.

Minnesota State Moorhead Vs. Winona State. MSUM is back on track after beating a ranked Augustana. The question is can they be consistent. They dropped McKendree after beating ranked UMD. Now they’re on the road at Winona, a place they haven’t won in since the 1990s. It’s a big game for the Dragons but could be a tough one.
 

WIAC conference play begins this weekend with 4 of the 5 nationally ranked teams playing against each other. Sloshkosh vs Whitewater and Platteville vs La Crosse
 


Tommyboy said:
With all of the upper mobile teams, D2 and D3 have less talent. The MIAC other then SJU, should participate in the the 6A tournament, if you look most of the guys at SJU played at these schools, bring back STU to make it interesting.
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It was funny for a while but it is time to grow my ignore list.
 

disco said:
There is no possible way a sober person wrote this word salad.
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Possibly the effect of strong drink, but my money would be on mental illness what with the weird obsession and word salad. I won't name any names, but there's more than one poster who frequent these boards that could use a separate O.T. forum - maybe call it Amityville Forum or something.
 

Recapping D2, Minnesota teams in bold. Not a great weekend for Moorhead, or Minnesota schools in general.
  • Nebraska-Kearney routed Southwest Minnesota State 35-0
  • Augustana defeated Minnesota-Duluth 28-24
  • Wayne State beat Minot State 27-21
  • Winona State ran past Minnesota State-Moorhead 33-6
  • Concordia-St. Paul outlasted Mary 19-13 (2OT)
  • Sioux Falls upset Minnesota State-Mankato 40-36
  • Northern State edged Bemidji State 14-13
Standings
  • Minnesota State-Mankato, 5-1, (4-1)
  • Wayne State, 4-1, (3-1)
  • Augustana, 3-2, (3-1)
  • Bemidji State, 4-2, (3-2)
  • Minot State, 4-2, (3-2)
  • Sioux Falls, 4-2, (3-2)
  • Minnesota-Duluth, 3-2, (2-2)
  • Concordia-St. Paul, 2-3, (2-2)
  • Winona State, 2-3, (2-2)
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead, 2-3, (2-2)
  • Northern State, 2-4, (2-3)
  • Southwest Minnesota State, 0-5, (0-4)
  • Mary, 1-5, (0-5)
Next Week's Schedule
  • Northern State at Minnesota-Duluth
  • Minnesota State-Mankato at Minnesota State-Moorhead
  • Augustana at Minot State
  • Concordia-St. Paul at Sioux Falls
  • Mary at Winona State
  • Wayne State at Southwest Minnesota State
  • Bemidji State on bye
 

MIAC Football scores -- belated results (just got back from New York City...)

St. John's 45, Augsburg 20
Bethel 43, Gustavus 0
Concordia 31, Carleton 6
St. Olaf 41, Hamline 6
St. Scholastica 30, Macalester 28

standings:
Northwoods Division --
St. John's 4-0/2-0
St. Olaf 4-0/2-0
Carleton 2-2/1-1
Gustavus 2-2/1-1
St. Scholastica 2-2/1-1

Skyline Division--
Concordia 3-1/2-0
Bethel 3-1/1-1
Augsburg 1-3/0-2
Hamline 2-2/0-2
Macalester 0-4/0-2

next week:
Hamline at Augsburg
St. John's at Concordia
Macalester at Bethel
Carleton at St. Olaf
St. Scholastica at Gustavus
 



D2 Polls are out. NSIC Teams in bold, Minnesota teams in italics

Coaches Poll
  1. Harding (Ark.) 5-0
  2. Grand Valley St. (Mich.) 5-0
  3. Valdosta St. (Ga.) 5-0
  4. Ferris St. (Mich.) 4-1
  5. Kutztown (Pa.) 5-0
  6. Slippery Rock (Pa.) 5-0
  7. Pittsburg St. (Kan.) 4-1
  8. Western Colorado 5-0
  9. Central Washington 4-1
  10. Ouachita Baptist (Ark.) 5-0
  11. West Alabama 4-0
  12. Colorado School of Mines 4-1
  13. Central Oklahoma 5-0
  14. Charleston (W.Va.) 5-0
  15. Minnesota St. Mankato 5-1
  16. Colorado St.-Pueblo 5-1
  17. Lenoir-Rhyne (N.C.) 4-1
  18. Emporia St. (Kan.) 5-1
  19. Delta St. (Miss.) 4-1
  20. Findlay (Ohio) 5-0
  21. Indianapolis 4-1
  22. Johnson C. Smith (N.C.) 6-0
  23. Carson-Newman (Tenn.) 5-0
  24. Frostburg St. (Md.) 5-0
  25. Indiana (Pa.) 4-1
Others receiving votes: Augustana (S.D.), Sioux Falls (S.D.), Wayne St. (Neb.)

Media Poll
  1. Harding (Ark.) 5-0
  2. Grand Valley State (Mich.) 5-0
  3. Valdosta State (Ga.) 5-0
  4. Pittsburg State (Kan.) 4-1
  5. Ferris State (Mich.) 4-1
  6. Kutztown (Pa.) 5-0
  7. Central Washington 4-1
  8. Slippery Rock (Pa.) 5-0
  9. Minnesota St. Mankato 5-1
  10. Western Colorado 5-0
  11. Central Oklahoma 5-0
  12. Ouachita Baptist (Ark.) 5-0
  13. West Alabama 4-0
  14. Colorado State-Pueblo 5-1
  15. Colorado School of Mines 4-1
  16. Charleston (W.V.) 5-0
  17. Emporia State (Kan.) 5-1
  18. Carson-Newman (Tenn.) 5-0
  19. Lenoir-Rhyne (N.C.) 4-1
  20. Augustana (S.D.) 3-2
  21. Johnson C. Smith (N.C.) 6-0
  22. Indianapolis 4-1
  23. Findlay (Ohio) 5-0
  24. Saginaw Valley State (Mich.) 4-1
  25. Delta State (Miss.) 4-1
 

D3 Football poll through games of Oct 5

1. North Central (ill) 18 votes for 1st place
2. Cortland (NY) - 7 votes for 1st place
3. St. John's MN - up from 5th last week
4. UW-River Falls - up from 6th
5. Mount Union (down from 4th)
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10. UW-Whitewater (up from 11th)
11. UW-Platteville (up from 24th)
12. UW-La Crosse (down from 3rd)
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16. Wartburg (down from 13th)
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20. UW-Oshkosh (down from 17th)

others receiving votes: Bethel, Coe, Central IA
 

Panthadad2 said:
That kind of domination can lead to being "St. Thomased" out of the league. The American Southwest Conference practically disbanded last year for similar reasons. As much as Mount Union's domination is amazing, so is the patience of the Ohio conference. I suppose part of it is that they probably don't dominate in all sports.
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John Carroll, who was usually Mount's toughest test in the OAC, is moving to the NCAC next year. Will be good for the Purple Raiders to have another non-conference game.
 

MIAC Football schedule for this week:
(1st round of Divisional games)

Northwoods Division

Carleton (2-2/1-1/0-0) at St. Olaf (4-0/2-0/0-0)

St. Scholastica (2-2/1-1/0-0) at Gustavus (2-2/1-1/0-0)
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Skyline Division

Hamline (2-2/0-2/0-0) at Augsburg (1-3/0-2/0-0)

Macalester (0-4/0-2/0-0) at Bethel (3-1/1-1/0-0)
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St. John's (4-0/2-0) at Concordia (3-1/2-0) **crossover game
 



MIAC Football scoreboard for this week:

St. Olaf 19, Carleton 13
Gustavus 51, St. Scholastica 13
Augsburg 37, Hamline 27
Bethel 59, Macalester 0
St. John's 38, Concordia 31

in the St. John's/Concordia game, the teams combined for 1,053 yds in total offense. The Old Guy for St. John's threw for 399 yds and 5 TD. Cooper Mattern for Concordia went for 396 and 3 TD, And he ran for 78 yds.

updated standings:

Northwoods Division (overall/conf/division)
St. Olaf 5-0/3-0/1-0
St. John's 5-0/3-0/0-0
Gustavus 3-2/2-1/1-0
Carleton 2-3/1-2/0-1
St. Scholastica 2-3/1-2/0-1

Skyline Division
Bethel 4-1/2-1/1-0
Concordia 3-2/2-1/0-0
Augsburg 2-3/1-2/1-0
Hamline 2-3/0-3/0-1
Macalester 0-5/0-3/0-1

and next week: (5 "name your score" games)
St. Scholastica at St. Olaf
Concordia at Hamline
Augsburg at Bethel
St. John's at Carleton
Gustavus at Macalester
 




Platteville might be better than we thought. They controlled River Falls today
 

Here are the recap for the NSIC, Minnesota teams in bold.
  • Minnesota State-Mankato defeated Minnesota State-Moorhead 24-19
  • Northern State edged Minnesota-Duluth 24-21
  • Sioux Falls won over Concordia-St. Paul 35-21
  • Augustana took down Minot State 20-7
  • Winona State routed Mary 48-7
  • Wayne State ran past Southwest Minnesota State 41-7
Standings
  • Minnesota State-Mankato (6-1, 5-1)
  • Augustana (4-2, 4-1)
  • Wayne State (5-1, 4-1)
  • Sioux Falls (5-2, 4-2)
  • Bemidji State (4-2, 3-2)
  • Winona State (3-3, 3-2)
  • Minot State (4-3, 3-3)
  • Northern State (3-4, 3-3)
  • Minnesota-Duluth (3-3, 2-3)
  • Concordia-St. Paul (2-4, 2-3)
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead (2-4, 2-3)
  • Southwest Minnesota State (0-6, 0-5)
  • Mary (1-6, 0-6)
Up next
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead at Concordia-St. Paul
  • Minot State at Bemidji State
  • Winona State at Augustana
  • Minnesota-Duluth at Sioux Falls
  • Wayne State at Mary
  • Southwest Minnesota State at Northern State
 

D2 Polls are out, NSIC teams in bold, Minnesota teams in italics

Coaches Poll
  1. Harding (Ark.) 6-0
  2. Grand Valley St. (Mich.) 6-0
  3. Valdosta St. (Ga.) 6-0
  4. Ferris St. (Mich.) 5-1
  5. Kutztown (Pa.) 6-0
  6. Slippery Rock (Pa.) 6-0
  7. Pittsburg St. (Kan.) 5-1
  8. Western Colorado 6-0
  9. Ouachita Baptist (Ark.) 6-0
  10. West Alabama 5-0
  11. Central Oklahoma 6-0
  12. Colorado School of Mines 5-1
  13. Charleston (W.Va.) 6-0
  14. Colorado St.-Pueblo 6-1
  15. Minnesota St.-Mankato 6-1
  16. Emporia St. (Kan.) 6-1
  17. Lenoir-Rhyne (N.C.) 5-1
  18. Carson-Newman (Tenn.) 6-0
  19. Indianapolis (Ind.) 5-1
  20. Johnson C. Smith (N.C.) 6-0
  21. Central Washington 4-2
  22. Frostburg St. (Md.) 6-0
  23. West Florida 3-2
  24. Southern Arkansas 5-1
  25. Henderson St. (Ark.) 5-1
Others receiving votes: Augustana (S.D.), Findlay (Ohio), Wayne St. (Neb.), Saginaw Valley St. (Mich.), Sioux Falls (S.D.), Davenport (Mich.)

Media Poll:
  1. Harding (Ark.), 6-0
  2. Grand Valley State (Mich.) 6-0
  3. Valdosta State (Ga.) 6-0
  4. Pittsburg State (Kan.) 5-1
  5. Ferris State (Mich.) 5-1
  6. Kutztown (Pa.) 6-0
  7. Slippery Rock (Pa.) 6-0
  8. Central Oklahoma 6-0
  9. Minnesota St.-Mankato 6-1
  10. Western Colorado 6-0
  11. Ouachita Baptist (Ark.) 6-0
  12. West Alabama 5-0
  13. Colorado State-Pueblo 6-1
  14. Colorado School of Mines 5-1
  15. Central Washington 4-2
  16. Charleston (W.V.) 6-0
  17. Emporia State (Kan.) 6-1
  18. Carson-Newman (Tenn.) 6-0
  19. Lenoir-Rhyne (N.C.) 5-1
  20. Augustana (S.D.) 4-2
  21. Johnson C. Smith (N.C.) 6-0
  22. Indianapolis 5-1
  23. Saginaw Valley State (Mich.) 5-1
  24. Wayne State (Neb.) 5-1
  25. Frostburg State (Md.) 6-0
 

D3 Football poll - through games of Oct 13

1. North Central (ill) (18 votes for 1st place)
2. Cortland (NY) (7 votes for 1st place)
3. St. John's MN
4. Mount Union (was 5th last week)
5. Hardin-Simmons (was 6th last week)
6. UW-Platteville (was 11th last week)
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10. UW-River Falls (was 4th last week)
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12. Wartburg (was 16th last week)
16. UW-Oshkosh (was 20th last week)
19. UW-Whitewater (was 10th last week)
22. UW-LaCrosse (was 12th last week)

others receiving votes: UW-Stout, Bethel, Coe College

The D3football.com Top 25 is voted on by a panel of 25 coaches, Sports Information Directors and media members from across the country, and is published weekly. Points are awarded on a 25-24-23-22-etc. basis.

on further review - UW-La Crosse is ranked at 2-3, but UW-Stout is not ranked at 4-1. someone explain this to me......

(upcoming WIAC games -
Fri, Oct 18: UW-Stevens Point (1-4/0-2) at UW-Whitewater (3-2/1-1)
Sat, Oct 19: UW-LaCrosse (2-3/0-2) at UW-Eau Claire (2-3/1-1)
---- UW-Stout (4-1/2-0) at UW-River Falls (4-1/1-1)
---- UW-Platteville (5-0/2-0) at UW-Oshkosh (3-2/1-1)
 

short ornery norwegian said:
D3 Football poll - through games of Oct 13

1. North Central (ill) (18 votes for 1st place)
2. Cortland (NY) (7 votes for 1st place)
3. St. John's MN
4. Mount Union (was 5th last week)
5. Hardin-Simmons (was 6th last week)
6. UW-Platteville (was 11th last week)
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10. UW-River Falls (was 4th last week)
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12. Wartburg (was 16th last week)
16. UW-Oshkosh (was 20th last week)
19. UW-Whitewater (was 10th last week)
22. UW-LaCrosse (was 12th last week)

others receiving votes: UW-Stout, Bethel, Coe College

The D3football.com Top 25 is voted on by a panel of 25 coaches, Sports Information Directors and media members from across the country, and is published weekly. Points are awarded on a 25-24-23-22-etc. basis.

on further review - UW-La Crosse is ranked at 2-3, but UW-Stout is not ranked at 4-1. someone explain this to me......

(upcoming WIAC games -
Fri, Oct 18: UW-Stevens Point (1-4/0-2) at UW-Whitewater (3-2/1-1)
Sat, Oct 19: UW-LaCrosse (2-3/0-2) at UW-Eau Claire (2-3/1-1)
---- UW-Stout (4-1/2-0) at UW-River Falls (4-1/1-1)
---- UW-Platteville (5-0/2-0) at UW-Oshkosh (3-2/1-1)
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I’m a stout fan and alum but I think la crosse is still ranked because they lost to a top 3 division two team and then lost to plattville and oshkosh. Personally I think that should drop them out until they get back above 500 but I do think they’re still a very good team. Hoping my blue devils can get another big win in river falls this weekend.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
D3 Football poll - through games of Oct 13

1. North Central (ill) (18 votes for 1st place)
2. Cortland (NY) (7 votes for 1st place)
3. St. John's MN
4. Mount Union (was 5th last week)
5. Hardin-Simmons (was 6th last week)
6. UW-Platteville (was 11th last week)
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10. UW-River Falls (was 4th last week)
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12. Wartburg (was 16th last week)
16. UW-Oshkosh (was 20th last week)
19. UW-Whitewater (was 10th last week)
22. UW-LaCrosse (was 12th last week)

others receiving votes: UW-Stout, Bethel, Coe College

The D3football.com Top 25 is voted on by a panel of 25 coaches, Sports Information Directors and media members from across the country, and is published weekly. Points are awarded on a 25-24-23-22-etc. basis.

on further review - UW-La Crosse is ranked at 2-3, but UW-Stout is not ranked at 4-1. someone explain this to me......

(upcoming WIAC games -
Fri, Oct 18: UW-Stevens Point (1-4/0-2) at UW-Whitewater (3-2/1-1)
Sat, Oct 19: UW-LaCrosse (2-3/0-2) at UW-Eau Claire (2-3/1-1)
---- UW-Stout (4-1/2-0) at UW-River Falls (4-1/1-1)
---- UW-Platteville (5-0/2-0) at UW-Oshkosh (3-2/1-1)
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The easy explanation is that its hard to rank programs that don't play each other, don't play common opponents, and don't play further than a bus ride away.

I suppose there's an issue of parity or lack thereof, too. If you look at the FCS level, for instance, its nearly impossible to rank teams outside of the top 10 or even the top 5. There's such a gulf between best teams and even the good teams that its almost silly to try to rank teams beyond #10.
 

Div III is weird, the 3rd rank team in the nation, needed a 75 yard TD in the last minute of the game to win against Concordia. They most likely would get eaten up by a stronger team, yet they are rated 3rd.
 

MIAC Football schedule today:

Northwoods Division:

St. John's (5-0/3-0/0-0) at Carleton (2-3/1-2/0-1)

St. Scholastica (2-3/1-2/0-1) at St. Olaf (5-0/3-/1-0)

Skyline Division:

Concordia (3-2/2-1/0-0) at Hamline (2-3/0-3/0-1)

Augsburg (2-3/1-2/1-0) at Bethel (4-1/2-1/1-0)

Cross-over game:

Gustavus (3-2/2-1/1-0) at Macalester (0-5/0-3/0-1)
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(FWIW - St. Olaf is at St. John's on Sat, Nov 9. barring upsets, winner of that game will likely face Bethel in the Conference Championship game.)
 

and for the heck of it - WIAC football

on Friday, it was UW-Whitewater 66, UW-Stevens Point 0
(Whitewater is 4-2/2-1 - Stevens Point 1-5/0-3).

today:
UW LaCrosse (2-3/0-2) at UW-Eau Claire (2-3/1-1)
UW-Stout (4-1/2-0) at UW-River Falls (4-1/1-1)
UW-Platteville (5-0/2-0) at UW-Oshkosh (3-2/1-1)
 

Stout has taken advantage of some critical turnovers by the falcons and lead 27-6 at halftime. Go blue devils!
 


I'm watching Platteville and Oshkosh. Oshkosh hurting themselves with turnovers. Tried to watch Bethel and Augsburg, but the Auggies were getting hammered and the student announcers for Bethel make PA seem conservative by comparison.
 

MIAC scoreboard

St. John's 48, Carleton 7
Concordia 41, Hamline 7
Gustavus 36, Macalester 7
Bethel 73, Augsburg 8
St. Olaf 36, St. Scholastica 33
**Oles kick 21 yd FG on final play of regulation

Standings:
Northwoods Division
St. Olaf 6-0/4-0/2-0
St. John's 6-0/4-0/1-0
Gustavus 3-2/2-1/1-0
Carleton 2-4/1-3/0-2
St. Scholastica 2-4/1-3/0-2

Skyline Division
Bethel 5-1/3-1/2-0
Concordia 4-2/3-1/1-0
Augsburg 2-4/1-3/1-1
Hamline 2-4/0-4/0-2
Macalester 0-5/0-3/0-1

Next week
St. Olaf at Augsburg
Bethel at Hamline
Carleton at St. Scholastica
Concordia at Macalester
Gustavus at St. John's
 

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