All Things 2024 College Football D2 and D3 Thread

If any one wants to sign up, I think Luther would accept warm bodies for tomorrow’s game at Wartburg. Bet you could get some reduced tuition, too.

I thought Luther used to field decent athletic teams in years past including football. Have they been this bad for long?
 


Yeah, it's going to be bad, especially since it's a road game with limited backups traveling. Scholastica met a harsh reality after leaving the UMAC.

Lost to Olaf by 3, beat Macalester. Good chance to beat Hamline and maybe win the final week as it should be an even matchup. 3 conference wins puts them ahead of others. But it has been tough sledding.
 

MIAC Scores - 11/2/24 (updated with late score)

Bethel 56, Carleton 7
Concordia 38, Augsburg 7
St. John's 70, St. Scholastica 0
Gustavus 21, St. Olaf 10
Hamline 37, Macalester 35

Standings--
Northwoods--
St. John's 8-0/6-0/3-0
St. Olaf 6-2/4-2/2-1
Gustavus 5-3/4-2/2-1
Carleton 3-5/2-4/1-2
St. Scholastica 0-4/1-5/2-6

Skyline--
Bethel 7-1/5-1/3-0
Concordia 6-2/5-1/3-0
Augsburg 3-5/2-4/1-2
Hamline 3-5/1-5/1-3
Macalester 0-8/0-6/0-3

next week -- (last week of scheduled games - Conference Cross-over round on Nov 16)
Macalester at Augsburg
Bethel at Concordia
Gustavus at Carleton
St. Scholastica at Hamline
St. Olaf at St. John's
 
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WIAC Football scores - 11/2/24

UW-Oshkosh 42, UW-Eau Claire 31
UW-Platteville 42, UW-Stevens Point 14
UW-LaCrosse 33, UW-Stout 31
UW-Whitewater 13, UW-River Falls 7

Standings--
UW-Platteville 7-1/4-1
UW-Oshkosh 6-2/4-1
UW-La Crosse 5-3/3-2
UW-Stout 5-3/3-2
UW-Whitewater 5-3/3-2
UW-River Falls 5-3/2-3
UW-Eau Claire 2-6/1-4
UW-Stevens Point 1-7/0-5

next week--
UW-Whitewater at UW-LaCrosse
UW-Stevens Point at UW-River Falls
UW-Eau Claire at UW-Platteville
UW-Stout at UW-Oshkosh
 


D2-NSIC Recap for the weekend. Minnesota teams in bold.

Results:
  • Mary defeated Southwest Minnesota State, 15-6
  • Minnesota Duluth edged Winona State, 42-38
  • Augustana routed Concordia-St. Paul, 28-7
  • Bemidji State took down Wayne State, 37-20
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead outlasted Minot State, 42-38
  • Minnesota State-Mankato won Vs. Northern State, 24-14
Standings:
  • Augustana, 7-2 (7-1)
  • Minnesota State-Mankato, 7-2 (6-2)
  • Sioux Falls, 7-2 (6-2)
  • Bemidji State, 6-3 (5-3)
  • Wayne State, 6-3 (5-3)
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead, 5-4 (5-3)
  • Northern State, 5-5 (5-4)
  • Minnesota Duluth, 4-4 (5-4)
  • Winona State, 4-4 (4-5)
  • Minot State, 4-6 (3-6)
  • Concordia-St. Paul, 2-7 (2-6)
  • University of Mary, 2-7 (1-7)
  • Southwest Minnesota State, 0-9 (0-8)
Next week:
  • Winona State at Southwest Minnesota State
  • Northern State at Wayne State
  • Minnesota Duluth at Concordia-St. Paul
  • UMary at Minnesota State-Mankato
  • Bemidji State at Minnesota State-Moorhead: Battle for the Axe
  • Sioux Falls at Augustana: Key to the City Game
 


That was infuriating to watch. Some truly boneheaded coaching decisions led to that collapse.
That was brutal. La Cross controlled the line on both sides of the ball. Still should have won that game. The standings are still a cluster and we finish with Oshkosh and Platteville who are the two teams ahead in standings so winning out, as hard as that will be, would get at least a share of the title or an at large in the national playoffs
 

D2-NSIC Recap for the weekend. Minnesota teams in bold.

Results:
  • Mary defeated Southwest Minnesota State, 15-6
  • Minnesota Duluth edged Winona State, 42-38
  • Augustana routed Concordia-St. Paul, 28-7
  • Bemidji State took down Wayne State, 37-20
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead outlasted Minot State, 42-38
  • Minnesota State-Mankato won Vs. Northern State, 24-14
Standings:
  • Augustana, 7-2 (7-1)
  • Minnesota State-Mankato, 7-2 (6-2)
  • Sioux Falls, 7-2 (6-2)
  • Bemidji State, 6-3 (5-3)
  • Wayne State, 6-3 (5-3)
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead, 5-4 (5-3)
  • Northern State, 5-5 (5-4)
  • Minnesota Duluth, 4-4 (5-4)
  • Winona State, 4-4 (4-5)
  • Minot State, 4-6 (3-6)
  • Concordia-St. Paul, 2-7 (2-6)
  • University of Mary, 2-7 (1-7)
  • Southwest Minnesota State, 0-9 (0-8)
Next week:
  • Winona State at Southwest Minnesota State
  • Northern State at Wayne State
  • Minnesota Duluth at Concordia-St. Paul
  • UMary at Minnesota State-Mankato
  • Bemidji State at Minnesota State-Moorhead: Battle for the Axe
  • Sioux Falls at Augustana: Key to the City Game
That Sioux Falls Augustana game should be great.
 



Bethel and Concordia next week to see who gets a second shot at St Johns.
 

I wonder which school is the next to drop football. It is inevitable at these levels. I won't be surprised if a whole school eventually shuts down. Numbers, numbers, and number$.
 

D2-NSIC Recap for the weekend. Minnesota teams in bold.

Results:
  • Mary defeated Southwest Minnesota State, 15-6
  • Minnesota Duluth edged Winona State, 42-38
  • Augustana routed Concordia-St. Paul, 28-7
  • Bemidji State took down Wayne State, 37-20
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead outlasted Minot State, 42-38
  • Minnesota State-Mankato won Vs. Northern State, 24-14
Standings:
  • Augustana, 7-2 (7-1)
  • Minnesota State-Mankato, 7-2 (6-2)
  • Sioux Falls, 7-2 (6-2)
  • Bemidji State, 6-3 (5-3)
  • Wayne State, 6-3 (5-3)
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead, 5-4 (5-3)
  • Northern State, 5-5 (5-4)
  • Minnesota Duluth, 4-4 (5-4)
  • Winona State, 4-4 (4-5)
  • Minot State, 4-6 (3-6)
  • Concordia-St. Paul, 2-7 (2-6)
  • University of Mary, 2-7 (1-7)
  • Southwest Minnesota State, 0-9 (0-8)
Next week:
  • Winona State at Southwest Minnesota State
  • Northern State at Wayne State
  • Minnesota Duluth at Concordia-St. Paul
  • UMary at Minnesota State-Mankato
  • Bemidji State at Minnesota State-Moorhead: Battle for the Axe
  • Sioux Falls at Augustana: Key to the City Game

Out of curiosity and mostly because the MN schools are bolded—do roster breakdowns of where players are from vary greatly? Or is the conference pretty similar regardless of location?
 

Out of curiosity and mostly because the MN schools are bolded—do roster breakdowns of where players are from vary greatly? Or is the conference pretty similar regardless of location?
I've only really tracked MSU-Moorhead, and the roster is usually from the tri-state area: Minnesota and the Dakotas. Some are from Wisconsin, Iowa or other parts of the Midwest.

Quick glance at MSU-Mankato which is the powerhouse for the state right now and it's fairly similar, though they get a couple recruits from outside of the region like Florida. Still mostly Midwest/Great Plains recruits.
 



That was brutal. La Cross controlled the line on both sides of the ball. Still should have won that game. The standings are still a cluster and we finish with Oshkosh and Platteville who are the two teams ahead in standings so winning out, as hard as that will be, would get at least a share of the title or an at large in the national playoffs
Yeah, they have made it hard on themselves with the La Crosse and River Falls losses. Like you said, need to win out and need a little outside help as well.
 

D2 Polls are out. NSIC teams in bold, Minnesota teams in italics.

Coaches Poll
  1. Valdosta St. (Ga.) 8-0
  2. Ferris St. (Mich.) 8-1
  3. Kutztown (Pa.) 9-0
  4. Harding (Ark.) 8-1
  5. Grand Valley St. (Mich.) 8-1
  6. Charleston (W.Va.) 9-0
  7. Colorado St.-Pueblo 8-1
  8. Central Oklahoma 8-1
  9. Ouachita Baptist (Ark.) 8-1
  10. Slippery Rock (Pa.) 7-1
  11. Western Colorado 8-1
  12. West Alabama 7-1
  13. Pittsburg St. (Kan.) 7-2
  14. Colorado School of Mines 7-2
  15. Indianapolis (Ind.) 8-1
  16. Augustana (S.D.) 7-2
  17. West Florida 6-2
  18. California (Pa.) 7-1
  19. Minnesota St.-Mankato 7-2
  20. Emporia St. (Kan.) 7-2
  21. Carson-Newman (Tenn.) 8-1
  22. Lenoir-Rhyne (N.C.) 7-2
  23. Angelo St. (Tex.) 7-2
  24. Findlay (Ohio) 8-1
  25. Wingate (N.C.) 7-1
Others Receiving Votes: Sioux Falls (S.D.), Ashland (Ohio), Central Missouri, Saginaw Valley St. (Mich.)

Media Poll
  1. Ferris State (Mich.) 8-1
  2. Valdosta State (Ga.) 8-0
  3. Kutztown (Pa.) 9-0
  4. Grand Valley State (Mich.) 8-1
  5. Harding (Ark.) 8-1
  6. Colorado State-Pueblo 8-1
  7. Central Oklahoma 8-1
  8. Pittsburg State (Kan.) 7-2
  9. Charleston (W.V.) 9-0
  10. Augustana (S.D.) 7-2
  11. Western Colorado 8-1
  12. Ouachita Baptist (Ark.) 8-1
  13. Slippery Rock (Pa.) 7-1
  14. West Alabama 7-1
  15. Minnesota St.-Mankato 7-2
  16. Indianapolis 8-1
  17. California (Pa.) 7-1
  18. Wingate (N.C.) 7-1
  19. Emporia State (Kan.) 7-2
  20. Angelo State (Tex.) 7-2
  21. Colorado School of Mines 7-2
  22. Carson-Newman (Tenn.) 8-1
  23. Sioux Falls (S.D.) 7-2
  24. Saginaw Valley State (Mich.) 7-2
  25. Johnson C. Smith (N.C.) 8-1
 

I wonder which school is the next to drop football. It is inevitable at these levels. I won't be surprised if a whole school eventually shuts down. Numbers, numbers, and number$.
Are you talking about public or private schools?

In the MIAC, St. Marys doesn't sponsor football, and I think they may be the most endangered school in the league overall.

In the UMAC, Northland doesn't sponsor football, and they are very close to closing their doors. They almost closed after last year.

In the NSIC, I don't see any schools dropping football or closing.
 

Yeah I think at this point, at least at the D2 level, most programs are fine in terms of staying at the university. Mary, Minot and recently Southwest Minnesota State have been really struggling on the field, but I think that has more to do with the level of competition with the rest of the NSIC.

I don't see another school dropping football right now. It made sense for Crookston which never had much success and was always a smaller school. St. Cloud State meanwhile has rolled back everything with enrollment declines so it makes sense there. Other schools from what I know aren't in that situation.

Have you heard anything yourself about some programs being in danger @maroonfive ?
 




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