All Things 2024 College Football D2 and D3 Thread

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short ornery norwegian said:
D3 Football.com - new poll

1. North Central (ill) 16 1st-place votes
2. Cortland - 9 1st-place votes (in New York state)
3. UW-Whitewater
4. Mount Union
5. UW-La Crosse (up from 6th place last week)
6. St. John's (up from 12th)
7. UW-River Falls
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13. Wartburg (down from 5th place)
14. UW-Oshkosh (up from 17th last week)
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24. Bethel (not rated last week)

others receiving votes: UW-Platteville, Central College IA,
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D3Football.com might have might have had a mistake in their first publishing. UW Lacrosse jumped up to #3 and Whitewater dropped down to #10 in the loss to UMHB.
 

D3 Football.com - new poll - corrected (I swear I saw the other one and didn't hallucinate it...)

1. North Central (ill) 16 1st-place votes
2. Cortland - 9 1st-place votes (in New York state)
3. UW-La Crosse (up from 5th place)
4. Mount Union
5. St. John's (up from 6th)
6. UW-River Falls (up from 7th)
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10. UW-Whitewater (down from 3rd)
13. Wartburg
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17. UW-Oshkosh (down from 14th)
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24. Bethel

others receiving votes: UW-Platteville.....and 2 votes for Ursinus. (which after some research is in Collegeville, Pennsylvania - about 25 miles from Philadelphia.)
 

short ornery norwegian said:
D3 Football.com - new poll - corrected (I swear I saw the other one and didn't hallucinate it...)

1. North Central (ill) 16 1st-place votes
2. Cortland - 9 1st-place votes (in New York state)
3. UW-La Crosse (up from 5th place)
4. Mount Union
5. St. John's (up from 6th)
6. UW-River Falls (up from 7th)
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10. UW-Whitewater (down from 3rd)
13. Wartburg
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17. UW-Oshkosh (down from 14th)
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24. Bethel

others receiving votes: UW-Platteville.....and 2 votes for Ursinus. (which after some research is in Collegeville, Pennsylvania - about 25 miles from Philadelphia.)
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To your point about Ursinus, I had never heard of North Central or Cortland until the past few years when they moved to the top in football. The beauty of small college football. Even better, nowadays, those team games can be streamed from across the country instead of just being a a trivia name on a poll published on the last page of the sports section.
 

Panthadad2 said:
To your point about Ursinus, I had never heard of North Central or Cortland until the past few years when they moved to the top in football. The beauty of small college football. Even better, nowadays, those team games can be streamed from across the country instead of just being a a trivia name on a poll published on the last page of the sports section.
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yeah. I get a kick out of some of these obscure (at least to me) D3 schools. but that is - for me - part of the attraction of D3 - that a small school can develop a solid program and gain some national attention.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
yeah. I get a kick out of some of these obscure (at least to me) D3 schools. but that is - for me - part of the attraction of D3 - that a small school can develop a solid program and gain some national attention.
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D3 is weak this year.
 
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1st week of conference games in the MIAC -- all crossover games this week with the Northwoods division teams playing at the Skyline Division teams.

St. Scholastica (1-1) at Concordia (1-1)

Carleton (1-1) at Hamline (2-0)

St. John's (2-0) at Bethel (2-0)

Gustavus (1-1) at Augsburg (1-1)

St. Olaf (2-0) at Macalester (0-2)
 

Is that school pronounced "Your Sinus?"
 

IceBoxGopher said:
D2 Polls are out, NSIC teams in bold, Minnesota teams in italics.

Coaches Poll
  1. Harding (Ark.) 3-0
  2. Grand Valley St. (Mich.) 3-0
  3. Valdosta St. (Ga.) 4-0
  4. Colorado School of Mines 3-0
  5. Ferris St. (Mich.) 2-1
  6. Lenoir-Rhyne (N.C.) 3-0
  7. Minnesota St-Mankato 4-0
  8. Kutztown (Pa.) 3-0
  9. Slippery Rock (Pa.) 3-0
  10. Pittsburg St. (Kan.) 3-1
  11. Emporia St. (Kan.) 4-0
  12. Central Missouri 2-1
  13. Central Washington 2-1
  14. Western Colorado 3-0
  15. Indianapolis (Ind.) 3-0
  16. Ouachita Baptist (Ark.) 3-0
  17. West Alabama 4-0
  18. Augustana (S.D.) 2-1
  19. Charleston (W.Va.) 3-0
  20. Henderson St. (Ark.) 3-0
  21. West Florida 1-1
  22. Colorado St.-Pueblo 3-1
  23. Central Oklahoma 3-0
  24. Delta St. (Miss.) 3-1
  25. Indiana (Pa.) 3-0
Others Receiving Votes: Findlay (Ohio), Bemidji St. (Minn.), Davenport (Mich.), East Stroudsburg (Pa.)

Media Poll
  1. Harding (3-0)
  2. Grand Valley State (3-0)
  3. Valdosta State (4-0)
  4. Minnesota State-Mankato (4-0)
  5. Pittsburg State (3-1)
  6. Ferris State (2-1)
  7. Colorado School of Mines (3-0)
  8. Kutztown (3-0)
  9. Central Washington (2-1)
  10. Slippery Rock (3-0)
  11. Central Missouri (2-1)
  12. Lenoir-Rhyne (3-0)
  13. Western Colorado (3-0)
  14. Indianapolis (3-0)
  15. Emporia State (4-0)
  16. Ouachita Baptist (3-0)
  17. Henderson State (3-0)
  18. West Alabama (4-0)
  19. Augustana (2-1)
  20. West Florida (1-1)
  21. Bemidji State (3-1)
  22. Charleston (3-0)
  23. Central Oklahoma (3-0)
  24. Colorado State-Pueblo (3-1)
  25. Carson-Newman (3-0)
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Our Dragons beat Augustana 43-41!
 




MIAC results for Sat, Sept 28:

St. Scholastica (1-1) at Concordia (1-1)--Concordia 35, St. Scholastica 0

Carleton (1-1) at Hamline (2-0)--Carleton 24, Hamline 14

St. John's (2-0) at Bethel (2-0)-- St. John's 45, Bethel 20

Gustavus (1-1) at Augsburg (1-1)-- Gustavus 28, Augsburg 0

St. Olaf (2-0) at Macalester (0-2)-- St. Olaf 29, Macalester 0

next week:
Macalester at St. Scholastica
Hamline at St. Olaf
Bethel at Gustavus
Augsburg at St. John's
Concordia at Carleton
 
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This thread is so good. Always. But this edition is elite. My god.

Followed St Johns a bit today. Pretty dominant. But when you have 19 guys getting paid $500k each and they are all 34 year old day laborers…can’t expect anyone to stop them
 

disco said:
Our Dragons beat Augustana 43-41!
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Yeah dude, it was a total shootout! Dragons took the lead first, Vikings came back and made things even and from there it was back-and-forth. MSU defense showed up huge, though, two critical interceptions. One to set up the game winning score and the second to end Augustana's last drive. I'm curious when's the last time the Dragons beat two ranked teams.
 



IceBoxGopher said:
Yeah dude, it was a total shootout! Dragons took the lead first, Vikings came back and made things even and from there it was back-and-forth. MSU defense showed up huge, though, two critical interceptions. One to set up the game winning score and the second to end Augustana's last drive. I'm curious when's the last time the Dragons beat two ranked teams.
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I caught the 4th quarter on the NSIC app on Roku. After the missed extra point, I wasn't sure what would happen, but what a great finish!
 

Went to the Bethel vs. St. Johns game. I will say that St. John's QB is probably the best D3 QB I have seen. Coverage was great against his WR's and he threw amazing throws right where they needed to be. If Bethel blitzed he seemed to find the open man. The refs didn't help Bethel out at all either - every call seemed to go St. Johns way until the game was decided. Bethel is a young team, so will be interesting to see the game if these two meet up in the MIAC championship
 


Here's where things are after Saturday in the NSIC. Minnesota teams in bold.
  • No. 7 Minnesota State-Mankato defeated Concordia-St. Paul, 33-20
  • Minnesota-Duluth crushed Southwest Minnesota State, 62-0
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead edged No. 18 Augustana, 43-41
  • Minot State won over Sioux Falls, 26-22
  • Bemidji State routed UMary, 41-7
  • Northern State outlasted Winona State 30-24
Standings:
  • Minnesota State-Mankato, 5-0 (4-0)
  • Bemidji State, 4-1 (3-1)
  • Minot State, 4-1 (3-1)
  • Minnesota-Duluth, 3-1 (2-1)
  • Wayne State, 3-1 (2-1)
  • Augustana, 2-2 (2-1)
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead, 2-2 (2-1)
  • Sioux Falls, 3-2 (2-2)
  • Concordia-St. Paul, 1-3 (1-2)
  • Winona State, 1-3 (1-2)
  • Northern State, 1-4 (1-3)
  • Mary, 1-4 (0-4)
  • Southwest Minnesota State, 0-4 (0-4)
Here's next week's lineup.
  • Minnesota-Duluth at Augustana
  • Minot State at Wayne State
  • Minnesota State-Moorhead at Winona State
  • Nebraska-Kearney at Southwest Minnesota State
  • Sioux Falls at Minnesota State-Mankato
  • Concordia-St. Paul at Mary
  • Bemidji State at Northern State
 

IceBoxGopher said:
Yeah dude, it was a total shootout! Dragons took the lead first, Vikings came back and made things even and from there it was back-and-forth. MSU defense showed up huge, though, two critical interceptions. One to set up the game winning score and the second to end Augustana's last drive. I'm curious when's the last time the Dragons beat two ranked teams.
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Can that QB spin it good enough to play for the maroon and gold?
 

gophernut1 said:
Went to the Bethel vs. St. Johns game. I will say that St. John's QB is probably the best D3 QB I have seen. Coverage was great against his WR's and he threw amazing throws right where they needed to be. If Bethel blitzed he seemed to find the open man. The refs didn't help Bethel out at all either - every call seemed to go St. Johns way until the game was decided. Bethel is a young team, so will be interesting to see the game if these two meet up in the MIAC championship
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Was Tommyboy there drunk as a skunk, loudly booing the SJU QB?
 

Gopherchase said:
Can that QB spin it good enough to play for the maroon and gold?
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I have wondered about this myself. I went to Luther College in the late 1970's and I think that there was one guy on the team who could possibly have played at the DI level. He was a linebacker, but IMHO he did not like football enough to follow the regimen (weightlifting, position meetings, year round conditioning, etc) required of D1 athletes.
 

WoodburyTim said:
Was Tommyboy there drunk as a skunk, loudly booing the SJU QB?
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You have a 24-25, 6th year kid playing Div III football. You could put SJU third string QB and 2nd string team and get the same result. The kid is 5'11" and runs 5.2 40 with a grade 4 AC tear on his throwing arm. He as like negative running yards in his 6 year career. I believe he has the record for most INT as well. He is 1-3 in playoff for his career, sounds like a Div III kirk.

My point was not that he cannot throw the ball, my point in SJU Div III, their head coach is paying NIL money to a 24 year old, when they have QB's as good or better with 10 QB's on the roster, paying 30,000, in order to win a few games in against Carleton and St. Scholastica. Syverson's dad owns banks and has donated tens of thousands to the school/program, he graduated last year. 1/4 of each class at SJU is on the football team, the head coach pulls kids in for expensive tuitions and tells them they will play, like most kids figure it out after a few years and move on. Not what Gags created as his program and mission, but he is dead.
 

Tommyboy said:
You have a 24-25, 6th year kid playing Div III football. You could put SJU third string QB and 2nd string team and get the same result. The kid is 5'11" and runs 5.2 40 with a grade 4 AC tear on his throwing arm. He as like negative running yards in his 6 year career. I believe he has the record for most INT as well. He is 1-3 in playoff for his career, sounds like a Div III kirk.

My point was not that he cannot throw the ball, my point in SJU Div III, their head coach is paying NIL money to a 24 year old, when they have QB's as good or better with 10 QB's on the roster, paying 30,000, in order to win a few games in against Carleton and St. Scholastica. Syverson's dad owns banks and has donated tens of thousands to the school/program, he graduated last year. 1/4 of each class at SJU is on the football team, the head coach pulls kids in for expensive tuitions and tells them they will play, like most kids figure it out after a few years and move on. Not what Gags created as his program and mission, but he is dead.
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Wat?
 

D2 polls are out. NSIC teams in bold, Minnesota teams in italics

Coaches:
  1. Harding (Ark.) 4-0
  2. Grand Valley St. (Mich.) 4-0
  3. Valdosta St. (Ga.) 4-0
  4. Colorado School of Mines 4-0
  5. Ferris St. (Mich.) 3-1
  6. Lenoir-Rhyne (N.C.) 4-0
  7. Minnesota St-Mankato 5-0
  8. Kutztown (Pa.) 4-0
  9. Slippery Rock (Pa.) 4-0
  10. Pittsburg St. (Kan.) 3-1
  11. Central Washington 3-1
  12. Central Missouri 3-1
  13. Western Colorado 4-0
  14. Ouachita Baptist (Ark.) 4-0
  15. West Alabama 4-0
  16. Charleston (W.Va.) 4-0
  17. Central Oklahoma 4-0
  18. Colorado St.-Pueblo 4-1
  19. Emporia St. (Kan.) 4-1
  20. Delta St. (Miss.) 3-1
  21. Indiana (Pa.) 4-0
  22. Indianapolis (Ind.) 3-1
  23. Findlay (Ohio) 4-0
  24. Johnson C. Smith (N.C.) 5-0
  25. Carson-Newman (Tenn.) 4-0
Others receiving votes: Bemidji St. (Minn.), Augustana (S.D.)

Media Poll:
  1. Harding (Ark) 4-0
  2. Grand Valley State (Mich) 4-0
  3. Valdosta State (Ga.) 4-0
  4. Minnesota St-Mankato 5-0
  5. Pittsburg State (Kan) 3-1
  6. Ferris State (Mich) 3-1
  7. Colorado School of Mines 4-0
  8. Kutztown (Penn) 4-0
  9. Central Washington 3-1
  10. Slippery Rock (Penn) 4-0
  11. Lenoir-Rhyne (N.C.) 4-0
  12. Western Colorado 4-0
  13. Central Missouri 3-1
  14. Ouachita Baptist (Ark) 4-0
  15. West Alabama 4-0
  16. Bemidji State (Minn) 4-1
  17. Central Oklahoma 4-0
  18. Charleston (W.V.) 4-0
  19. Colorado State-Pueblo 4-1
  20. Emporia State (Kan) 4-1
  21. Carson-Newman (Tenn) 4-0
  22. Indianapolis 3-1
  23. Johnson C. Smith (N.C.) 5-0
  24. Indiana (Penn) 4-0
  25. Augustana (S.D.) 2-2
 

Tommyboy said:
You have a 24-25, 6th year kid playing Div III football. You could put SJU third string QB and 2nd string team and get the same result. The kid is 5'11" and runs 5.2 40 with a grade 4 AC tear on his throwing arm. He as like negative running yards in his 6 year career. I believe he has the record for most INT as well. He is 1-3 in playoff for his career, sounds like a Div III kirk.

My point was not that he cannot throw the ball, my point in SJU Div III, their head coach is paying NIL money to a 24 year old, when they have QB's as good or better with 10 QB's on the roster, paying 30,000, in order to win a few games in against Carleton and St. Scholastica. Syverson's dad owns banks and has donated tens of thousands to the school/program, he graduated last year. 1/4 of each class at SJU is on the football team, the head coach pulls kids in for expensive tuitions and tells them they will play, like most kids figure it out after a few years and move on. Not what Gags created as his program and mission, but he is dead.
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So the answer to my question is, yes?
 

gophernut1 said:
Went to the Bethel vs. St. Johns game. I will say that St. John's QB is probably the best D3 QB I have seen. Coverage was great against his WR's and he threw amazing throws right where they needed to be. If Bethel blitzed he seemed to find the open man. The refs didn't help Bethel out at all either - every call seemed to go St. Johns way until the game was decided. Bethel is a young team, so will be interesting to see the game if these two meet up in the MIAC championship
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DC is now HC for Bethel and they have a new OC, hired from Georgia, implementing a completely new offense.
 

Tommyboy said:
You have a 24-25, 6th year kid playing Div III football. You could put SJU third string QB and 2nd string team and get the same result. The kid is 5'11" and runs 5.2 40 with a grade 4 AC tear on his throwing arm. He as like negative running yards in his 6 year career. I believe he has the record for most INT as well. He is 1-3 in playoff for his career, sounds like a Div III kirk.

My point was not that he cannot throw the ball, my point in SJU Div III, their head coach is paying NIL money to a 24 year old, when they have QB's as good or better with 10 QB's on the roster, paying 30,000, in order to win a few games in against Carleton and St. Scholastica. Syverson's dad owns banks and has donated tens of thousands to the school/program, he graduated last year. 1/4 of each class at SJU is on the football team, the head coach pulls kids in for expensive tuitions and tells them they will play, like most kids figure it out after a few years and move on. Not what Gags created as his program and mission, but he is dead.
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Incoherent babble.
 

Don't think I posted the new D3 Football Poll
(5 of the 8 teams in WIAC make the top 25)

1. North Central (ill)
2. Cortland (NY)
3. UW-La Crosse
4. Mount Union
5. St. John's
6. UW-River Falls
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11. UW-Whitewater (#10 last week)
13. Wartburg
17. UW-Oshkosh
24. UW-Platteville (not rated last wk)
Others receiving votes: Bethel (fell out of top 25).
 

MIAC Schedule this week
(another week of cross-over games. Divisional play begins the following week)

Macalester (2-1/1-0) at St. Scholastica (1-2/0-1)
Hamline (2-1/0-1) at St. Olaf (3-0/1-0)
Bethel (2-1/0-1) at Gustavus (2-1/1-0)
Augsburg (1-2/0-1) at St. John's (3-0/1-0)
Concordia (2-1/1-0) at Carleton (2-1/1-0)
 

short ornery norwegian said:
Don't think I posted the new D3 Football Poll
(5 of the 8 teams in WIAC make the top 25)

1. North Central (ill)
2. Cortland (NY)
3. UW-La Crosse
4. Mount Union
5. St. John's
6. UW-River Falls
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11. UW-Whitewater (#10 last week)
13. Wartburg
17. UW-Oshkosh
24. UW-Platteville (not rated last wk)
Others receiving votes: Bethel (fell out of top 25).
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I'm still amazed at what Mt Union continues to do. They've had two seasons in the past 34 where they've lost 2 games. The other 32 they've lost 0 or 1. Amazing.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I'm still amazed at what Mt Union continues to do. They've had two seasons in the past 34 where they've lost 2 games. The other 32 they've lost 0 or 1. Amazing.
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With all of the upper mobile teams, D2 and D3 have less talent. The MIAC other then SJU, should participate in the the 6A tournament, if you look most of the guys at SJU played at these schools, bring back STU to make it interesting.
 

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