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Assume that's a veteran minimum signing.
I honestly know nothing about him.Assume that's a veteran minimum signing.
A "moneyball" type signing, and defacto the replacement for Duke Shelley?Assume that's a veteran minimum signing.
What, what?? You lost me there.And trade Hunter for a first.
It's wasting his talent to some degree putting him in 3-4, he's not getting any younger and I don't trust him to stay healthy. If they can get a 1st round pick for him, I take it and run.What, what?? You lost me there.
You let Hunter put his hand in the dirt and rush the QB, try to affect the outcome of the game.
(You don't do some BS of having him in a 2-point stance. You don't do some BS having him "cover" people. You don't do some BS of calling him an "outside linebacker".)
Yes. Basically. I'd rather have Duke. He got barely more than the minimum from the Raiders.A "moneyball" type signing, and defacto the replacement for Duke Shelley?
Be interesting to see which one does better, but I assume we could've just re-signed Duke for reasonably cheap? I guess having a year in the system doesn't matter when you're bringing in a new DC.
OK.It's wasting his talent to some degree putting him in 3-4, he's not getting any younger and I don't trust him to stay healthy. If they can get a 1st round pick for him, I take it and run.
Flores will hopefully be more creative/flexible than Donatell, but if they do that every down, it's not a 3-4 anymore. Hunter is best used as a true DE in a 4-3 defense. He's almost 30 and he wants a massive new contract. That doesn't make sense for the Vikings to do now that they're keeping the 3-4 defense.OK.
Well, at least your argument is reasonable, even if I don't agree with it.
We're not going to be some rigid 3-4 thing. It's going to be way more complex and multiple than that. Probably some nuance chance each week.
Perfectly reasonable to have Hunter lining up wide, with hand in dirt, and that still be part of the system. We'll see what they actually do.
We can't wait and see. He will hold out if he doesn't get a new contract. He's not at their OTA today and he won't show up for training camp under his current deal. Therefore, trade him.Well I think he (Flores) has said that he's a "3-4 guy" in name only, or something like that. But anyway, we'll see.
We can't afford to give him anything crazy right now, so let's see what he does this year. As is, I doubt anyone gives up a 1st rounder for an almost 30 year old who has had some bad injuries and then did OK last year.
Has a contract, doesn't want to report, not a good sign as he isn't proving what kind of shape he is in etc. to justify a new contract.Flores will hopefully be more creative/flexible than Donatell, but if they do that every down, it's not a 3-4 anymore. Hunter is best used as a true DE in a 4-3 defense. He's almost 30 and he wants a massive new contract. That doesn't make sense for the Vikings to do now that they're keeping the 3-4 defense.
And got free money for basically two years while being hurt. You just have to feel for this guy. I'm kind of tired of him.Has a contract, doesn't want to report, not a good sign as he isn't proving what kind of shape he is in etc. to justify a new contract.
Ah, OK. I didn’t realize he was holding out. In that case, I think you’re right. But doubt a first rounder is coming.We can't wait and see. He will hold out if he doesn't get a new contract. He's not at their OTA today and he won't show up for training camp under his current deal. Therefore, trade him.
Ah, OK. I didn’t realize he was holding out. In that case, I think you’re right. But doubt a first rounder is coming.
It's not technically a hold out yet. But there's zero chance he's going to play for $4.5 million base salary this year.at this point Hunter is not 'holding out.' this is not a mandatory workout. under the CBA, players are not required to show up until the mandatory minicamp. But, a lot of players have clauses in their contracts where they get a little bonus if they show up for off-season workouts, so that's why most players are taking part in this week's workouts - for the money.
back to my original point - it's not a holdout unless Hunter fails to show up for minicamp or the start of training camp. so we have roughly 4 months before the shite hits the fan.
We can't wait and see. He will hold out if he doesn't get a new contract. He's not at their OTA today and he won't show up for training camp under his current deal. Therefore, trade him.
Dalvin is cooked.
That's not possible to prove. Maybe another RB makes the same big play. Maybe not. Maybe another RB makes a different playnto win the game or is more consistent making good plays.Dalvin's better days are behind him, and I'm happy if they move on from him. But they also don't beat the Bills or the Colts last season without him.
Both of those games are butterfly flapping its wings outcomes. Change anything at all and they probably lose.That's not possible to prove. Maybe another RB makes the same big play. Maybe not. Maybe another RB makes a different playnto win the game or is more consistent making good plays.
Per Shama:
Vikings QB Process: No Need to Panic
There is endless speculation about when and how the Vikings will find their next quarterback to replace 34-year-old Kirk Cousins. No need to overthink the process.
The Vikings are highly likely to find their guy sometime in the next 12 months or so. They may acquire a quarterback via trade or free agency within that period. Of course, next week’s NFL Draft will be an opportunity, too, and so will the 2024 draft.
To find a coveted prospect in the opening round of the 2023 draft, the Vikings will have to move up from their No. 23 position in the first round. While that could happen, chances are more likely the Vikings will move down from No. 23, trading that selection to acquire more picks in draft. Minnesota has just two draft spots in the top 100 and only five total in the seven round draft that starts April 27 and continues through April 29.
GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah, head coach Kevin O’Connell and others in the organization have spent a lot of time looking at quarterback prospects who will be in the draft, including those who will go in the later rounds. While Minnesota has been linked to likely first rounders Will Levis (Kentucky) and Hendon Hooker (Tennessee), the Vikings seem more likely to end up with second or third round quarterbacks. Possibilities could include Tanner McKee (Stanford) and Dorian Thompson-Robinson (UCLA), prospects the Vikings could develop during the coming season and not rush into game action.
Skol Vikes!!
I have a rule - no QBs under 6'2. No way I'm taking Bryce Young #1I think after Bryce Young goes #1, all the rest of the QBs fall further than everyone thinks, even CJ Stroud. I doubt Houston takes a QB at #2 if they can't get Bryce Young. Indy should be making a play for Lamar Jackson if they had any brains at all.
The top 10 picks in this draft are going to be entertaining, no doubt about it. If he's there in the late 2nd or early 3rd round, Tanner McKee interests me as a possible QB target. I think there's Zero chance the Vikings draft a QB in the 1st round. Hendon Hooker in the 1st round, as Shama mentions above, is laughable.
I think after Bryce Young goes #1, all the rest of the QBs fall further than everyone thinks, even CJ Stroud. I doubt Houston takes a QB at #2 if they can't get Bryce Young. Indy should be making a play for Lamar Jackson if they had any brains at all.
The top 10 picks in this draft are going to be entertaining, no doubt about it. If he's there in the late 2nd or early 3rd round, Tanner McKee interests me as a possible QB target. I think there's Zero chance the Vikings draft a QB in the 1st round. Hendon Hooker in the 1st round, as Shama mentions above, is laughable.
I have a rule - no QBs under 6'2. No way I'm taking Bryce Young #1
No Ohio State QBs should be Rule 2. None have ever done anything in the NFL.I have a rule - no QBs under 6'2. No way I'm taking Bryce Young #1
No Ohio State QBs should be Rule 2. None have ever done anything in the NFL.
Yes, I'm counting the Bears current QB.