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Some guy said:
I have not seen maple grove live

Hard to know how good they were because the north never crossed over with other three sections until week 8

They clearly are the favorite after their week 8 game.
I personally would pick Edina and shakopee over Minnetonka.
MG already crushed Edina. So I feel it’s shakopee or MG for the title
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Minnetonka beat Shakopee and Edina head to head.
 


Some guy said:
I have not seen maple grove live

Hard to know how good they were because the north never crossed over with other three sections until week 8

They clearly are the favorite after their week 8 game.
I personally would pick Edina and shakopee over Minnetonka.
MG already crushed Edina. So I feel it’s shakopee or MG for the title
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I saw all four in person. It’s Maple Grove and Shakopee IMO. Maple Grove seems on a mission.

Anoka can beat Minnetonka if they don’t turn the ball over. I think they had 2+ red zone turnovers last night.

Blaine I think was a better Matchup for Minnetonka if not for the QB getting hurt on 8th play.

However had Blaine beat Anoka week 3 and flipped seeds, I don’t think Anoka is here and I’m not sure Blaine beats Lakeville South. Matchups are huge in 6A
 

5A, Owatonna over Cretin 22-21 in OT.

After Cretin scored on their possession, Owatonna converted 4th and Goal from inside the 1. Went for 2 pts, got to the pylon on a sweep right for the W.

Surreal situation with less than 5 minutes in the game, as there was a medical emergency in the Press Box. Ambulance was called, but wound up not life threatening. Appeared to be a CDH Asst Coach.

Game resumed after about 15-20 minutes.
 

MSHSL Football Quarter-finals - Scores from Saturday 11/9 - updated

3A: (S1) Stewartville 40, (S4) Holy Family Catholic 14
--- (S2) Dassel-Cokato 29, (S3) Fairmont 28
--- (N2) Pequot Lakes 22, (N3) Annandale 15

5A: (N1) Elk River 36, (N4) Monticello 29
--- (N3) Alexandria 17, (N2) Robbinsdale Armstrong 14
--- (S1) Owatonna 22, (S4) Cretin-Derham Hall 21
--- (S2) Chanhassen 38, (S3) St. Thomas Academy 21

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State Semi-Finals will be played at US Bank Stadium on Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

Thurs, 9/14:
4A - 10:30am - Becker vs Marshall
9pl - 1pm - Hills-Beaver Creek vs Mountain Iron-Buhl
9pl - 4pm - LeRoy-Ostrander/Lyle/Pacelli vs Fertile-Beltrami
6A - 7pm - Minnetonka vs Anoka

Fri, 9/15
2A - 9am - Kimball Area vs Jackson County Central
4A - 11:30am - Totino-Grace vs Orono
5A - 2pm - Elk River vs Chanhassen
2A - 4:30pm - Chatfield vs Staples-Motley
6A - 7:30pm - Maple Grove vs Shakopee

Sat, 9/16
A - 9am - Mahnomen-Waubun vs Springfield
A - 11:30am - Minneota vs Parkers Prairie
3A - 2pm - Dassel-Cokato vs Pequot Lakes
3A - 4:30pm - Stewartville vs Albany
5A - 7pm - Owatonna vs Alexandria
 
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Ope3 said:
Yikes, 5pm curfew the night before?
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Who knows how each team will handle it. I assume Mahnomen has a pretty good system in place as they have been there several times. I'm sure the MSHSL has things in place for teams also if they need to stay the night before, again I am not sure of that though. Teams must stay for basketball, hockey, and others that play the tournament in a 3 day format
 

Ranger692 said:
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Who knows how each team will handle it. I assume Mahnomen has a pretty good system in place as they have been there several times. I'm sure the MSHSL has things in place for teams also if they need to stay the night before, again I am not sure of that though. Teams must stay for basketball, hockey, and others that play the tournament in a 3 day format
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as far as JCC is concerned, I think it's a moot point if Voss can't play. He makes this team different. they are just not the same team without him. It would be unfortunate if he winds up getting knocked out of the state tournament with injuries two years in a row - but that's part of football.

sometimes it's not the best team that advances - it's the healthiest team.

to be clear - have not seen anything on his status yet. but Voss was on crutches on the sideline after his injury. even if he's able to play, have to think he will be at least somewhat limited.
 


MaxyJR1 said:
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of the 10 finalists by class = 6A -2 / 5A - 3 / 4A - 2 / 3A - none / 2A - 1 / 1A - 1 / 9pl - 1

only one I've seen play is Vosika from BOLD. good player, but I don't see him as the top Senior in the state.

FWIW - check out the season stats for Cam Hungerholt, the 9pl QB for LeRoy-Ostrander/Lyle/Pacelli:

2,694 yards rushing, 35 rushing touchdowns, 2,183 yards passing, 31 passing touchdowns, 84 tackles on defense, 10 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks and five takeaways.
 
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short ornery norwegian said:
of the 10 finalists by class = 6A -2 / 5A - 3 / 4A - 2 / 3A - none / 2A - 1 / 1A - 1 / 9pl - 1

only one I've seen play is Vosika from BOLD. good player, but I don't see him as the top Senior in the state.

FWIW - check out the season stats for Cam Hungerholt, the 9pl QB for LeRoy-Ostrander/Lyle/Pacelli:

2,694 yards rushing, 35 rushing touchdowns, 2,183 yards passing, 31 passing touchdowns, 84 tackles on defense, 10 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks and five takeaways.
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Those are Mr. Football numbers wowza!
 

short ornery norwegian said:
as far as JCC is concerned, I think it's a moot point if Voss can't play. He makes this team different. they are just not the same team without him. It would be unfortunate if he winds up getting knocked out of the state tournament with injuries two years in a row - but that's part of football.

sometimes it's not the best team that advances - it's the healthiest team.

to be clear - have not seen anything on his status yet. but Voss was on crutches on the sideline after his injury. even if he's able to play, have to think he will be at least somewhat limited.
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Shaver on podcast said broken ankle and out for the season.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
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Interesting that none of these guys show up anywhere near the top 10 in terms of in-state recruits for 2025. The LB from Maple Grove has a recruiting grade of 77 on 247.

You would think the winner of Mr. Football in a state would be the kind of player that would be in demand at the college level as well but clearly that isn't always the case and in particular this year.

Last year's winner ended up at South Dakota State but the finalist had a number of the more high profile guys. Although how in the heck was Perich not a finalist for Mr. Football last year?
 



Semi Final Picks

9 Man:
Mountain Iron Buhl over Hills Beaver Creek
Fertile-Beltrami over LeRoy-Ostrander

1A:
Mahnomen/Waubon over Springfield
Minneota over Parkers Prairie

2A:
Kimball over JCC
Chatfield over Staples-Motley

3A:
Dassel-Cokato over Pequot Lakes
Stewartville over Albany

4A:
Becker over Marshall
Orono over Totino-Grace

5A:
Elk River over Chanhassen
Alexandria over Owatonna

6A:
Minnetonka over Anoka
Maple Grove over Shakopee
 

MNVCGUY said:
Interesting that none of these guys show up anywhere near the top 10 in terms of in-state recruits for 2025. The LB from Maple Grove has a recruiting grade of 77 on 247.

You would think the winner of Mr. Football in a state would be the kind of player that would be in demand at the college level as well but clearly that isn't always the case and in particular this year.

Last year's winner ended up at South Dakota State but the finalist had a number of the more high profile guys. Although how in the heck was Perich not a finalist for Mr. Football last year?
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To be a nominee your coach has to nominate you

To nominate your coach has to be a member of the MFCA.

I would guess for some reason or another he wasn’t nominated
 

MNVCGUY said:
Interesting that none of these guys show up anywhere near the top 10 in terms of in-state recruits for 2025. The LB from Maple Grove has a recruiting grade of 77 on 247.

You would think the winner of Mr. Football in a state would be the kind of player that would be in demand at the college level as well but clearly that isn't always the case and in particular this year.

Last year's winner ended up at South Dakota State but the finalist had a number of the more high profile guys. Although how in the heck was Perich not a finalist for Mr. Football last year?
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IMO it's about senior or career standouts and they don't look at potential or where you are going. Some coaches are more involved in celebrating players accomplishments and taking the time to nominate them for awards. They also have academic all-state and some programs take pride in these accomplishments. Some of these guys weren't selected for the 88 man roster for the Senior All Star game. For Example they only take 2 metro QB's and 2 outstate QB's.

South is Lakeville N. and Mankato East QBs
North is Anoka and Morris/Chokio-Alberta QBs

Cam Hungerholt mentioned above is playing defensive back in the all-star game. He's committed to Minnesota State Mankato.



As Stated by Some Guy:
Mr. Football Award Criteria:
  • Nominee must be a graduating senior.
  • Nominee’s Head Coach must be a current member of the MFCA.
  • Nominee must not have any MSHSL violations.
  • Each player must be nominated by their Sub-District/MFCA representative, after being selected by the coaches in each Sub-district.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
MN HS FB State Tournament Scoreboard - Quarter-Final Round - Friday, Nov 8

9-pl: (S1) LeRoy-Ostrander/Lyle/Pacelli 50, (S4) Renville County West 0

1A: (S1) Minneota 41, (S4) Lester Prairie 0
---(N2) Mahnomen-Waubun 14, (N3) Deer River 6

2A: (N1) Kimball Area 38, (N4) Moose Lake-Willow River 0
--- (S2) Jackson County Central 34, (S3) Norwood-Young America 7

3A: (N4) Albany 28, (N1) Fergus Falls 27

6A: Anoka 14, Lakeville North 10
--- Shakopee 24, Mounds View 17

(as noted, JCC QB Roman Voss left his game after an apparent ankle injury and was on crutches on the sideline. haven't seen anything yet on his outlook, but hard to believe he'll be OK in a week. JCC will play Kimball Area in the Semis at 9am next Friday.)

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Games on Saturday:

3A: (N2) Pequot Lakes vs (N3) Annandale - 7pm @ Rocori HS
--- (S1) Stewartville vs (S4) Holy Family Catholic - Noon at Totino-Grace HS
--- (S2 Dassel-Cokato vs (S3) Fairmont - 3pm @ Mpls Washburn HS

5A: (N1) Elk River vs (N4) Monticello - 4pm @ Forest Lake HS
--- (N2) Robbinsdale Armstrong vs (N3) Alexandria - 11am @ Monticello HS
--- (S1) Owatonna vs (S4) Cretin-Derham Hall - 1pm @ Eastview HS
--- (S2) Chanhassen vs (S3) St. Thomas Academy - Noon @ Osseo HS
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A friend of mine is a basketball coach at Kimball. I know their football program was terrible for a very long time. Good for them.
 


short ornery norwegian said:
of the 10 finalists by class = 6A -2 / 5A - 3 / 4A - 2 / 3A - none / 2A - 1 / 1A - 1 / 9pl - 1

only one I've seen play is Vosika from BOLD. good player, but I don't see him as the top Senior in the state.

FWIW - check out the season stats for Cam Hungerholt, the 9pl QB for LeRoy-Ostrander/Lyle/Pacelli:

2,694 yards rushing, 35 rushing touchdowns, 2,183 yards passing, 31 passing touchdowns, 84 tackles on defense, 10 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks and five takeaways.
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I wish I could have played 9 man. My school moved down a few years after I graduated.
 

MNVCGUY said:
Interesting that none of these guys show up anywhere near the top 10 in terms of in-state recruits for 2025. The LB from Maple Grove has a recruiting grade of 77 on 247.

You would think the winner of Mr. Football in a state would be the kind of player that would be in demand at the college level as well but clearly that isn't always the case and in particular this year.

Last year's winner ended up at South Dakota State but the finalist had a number of the more high profile guys. Although how in the heck was Perich not a finalist for Mr. Football last year?
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Gophers should consider Owatonna's Ginskey- maybe preferred walk on? I've seen him play a couple times and he reminds me of Adam Thielen. Really good athlete with great hands. Kid also has 10 interceptions, could play some safety
 

MaxyJR1 said:
IMO it's about senior or career standouts and they don't look at potential or where you are going. Some coaches are more involved in celebrating players accomplishments and taking the time to nominate them for awards. They also have academic all-state and some programs take pride in these accomplishments. Some of these guys weren't selected for the 88 man roster for the Senior All Star game. For Example they only take 2 metro QB's and 2 outstate QB's.

South is Lakeville N. and Mankato East QBs
North is Anoka and Morris/Chokio-Alberta QBs

Cam Hungerholt mentioned above is playing defensive back in the all-star game. He's committed to Minnesota State Mankato.



As Stated by Some Guy:
Mr. Football Award Criteria:
  • Nominee must be a graduating senior.
  • Nominee’s Head Coach must be a current member of the MFCA.
  • Nominee must not have any MSHSL violations.
  • Each player must be nominated by their Sub-District/MFCA representative, after being selected by the coaches in each Sub-district.
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Weird question but are there many head coaches that are not members of the MFCA?
 

MaxyJR1 said:
IMO it's about senior or career standouts and they don't look at potential or where you are going. Some coaches are more involved in celebrating players accomplishments and taking the time to nominate them for awards. They also have academic all-state and some programs take pride in these accomplishments. Some of these guys weren't selected for the 88 man roster for the Senior All Star game. For Example they only take 2 metro QB's and 2 outstate QB's.

South is Lakeville N. and Mankato East QBs
North is Anoka and Morris/Chokio-Alberta QBs

Cam Hungerholt mentioned above is playing defensive back in the all-star game. He's committed to Minnesota State Mankato.



As Stated by Some Guy:
Mr. Football Award Criteria:
  • Nominee must be a graduating senior.
  • Nominee’s Head Coach must be a current member of the MFCA.
  • Nominee must not have any MSHSL violations.
  • Each player must be nominated by their Sub-District/MFCA representative, after being selected by the coaches in each Sub-district.
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Good info and it all makes sense....was more just pointing out that it is a little odd to see a Mr. Football list without any of the guys currently regarded as being the best/highest rated players in the senior class. But maybe it is that way more often then not. Looking at last year's list, Gilmore and Mandell were both on it but most of the other guys were lower rated players.
 

LesBolstad said:
Gophers should consider Owatonna's Ginskey- maybe preferred walk on? I've seen him play a couple times and he reminds me of Adam Thielen. Really good athlete with great hands. Kid also has 10 interceptions, could play some safety
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With the new paying players, I don't know what the status of PWO is anymore. I think it's just a 105 players starting next season.

www.nytimes.com

105 is college football's new key roster number. What will it change?

The new system allows schools flexibility to decide how many scholarships within the roster limit they want to give out.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 

MNVCGUY said:
Good info and it all makes sense....was more just pointing out that it is a little odd to see a Mr. Football list without any of the guys currently regarded as being the best/highest rated players in the senior class. But maybe it is that way more often then not. Looking at last year's list, Gilmore and Mandell were both on it but most of the other guys were lower rated players.
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48 or the 88 players names to the all star game are committed to play D1 or D2 next year. The 4 Dakota schools with the majority of the D1 guys. Not sure what last year looked like.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
48 or the 88 players names to the all star game are committed to play D1 or D2 next year. The 4 Dakota schools with the majority of the D1 guys. Not sure what last year looked like.
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Are those 48 football commits or is that all sports? If the 48 is just football it wouldn't shock me if a good chunk of the other 40 are hockey, track or some other sport guys who will be doing that at the college level as opposed to football.
 

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