12/27 - Rashad Vaughn will NOT attend the U

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Johnnyboy18 said:
There is a limit Pitino couldn't watch Tyus two weeks ago due to Tubby visiting him too much.
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I disagree. You can watch as many summer AAU games you want during the live periods.
 

OSUfan said:
No, a coach can watch as many games for a recruit as possible during the live periods. There are periods when the coaches aren't allowed to come and watch, such as this past weekend. But outside of those periods, the coach can go to as many games and I think also visit the recruit at his school as much as possible.
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"If an AAU game happens and no college coaches are around, does it make a sound?" - Ancient Chinese Proverb
 

Johnnyboy18 said:
There is a limit Pitino couldn't watch Tyus two weeks ago due to Tubby visiting him too much.
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Gopher Hole: Are you expecting all seven of them to be in Hampton for the Boo Williams Invitational this weekend?

Tyus Jones: I am. The U of M can’t be there because the old staff used up all but one of the viewing opportunities, so they wouldn’t be able to attend any games or anything like that, but all the other schools will be there.

Gopher Hole: They will be in the gym though.

Tyus Jones: Yes, they will be in the gym still.

---Can someone tell me the difference? Do 'viewing opportunities' allowed to be court side or talk to players after the game?---
 

and if The U is there to watch Sandy Cohen and Rashad Vaughn just happens to be in the game at the same time how do they stop watching? same with Reid and Jarvis with Tyus on the floor? they can't watch the passer but can watch the kid catch the pass?
 



GopherSteak said:
He said UNC, UK and Iowa state. NOTHING about the Gophers. Pitino was getting my hopes up, but it's just like that hot girl who goes on the first date with me. After she finds out I make 20k a year, she's off to look for millionaires again.

Sorry if I seem negative, I'm losing faith.
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Whoa! Count your blessings dude. You got the one date with a "hot girl". Many guys are shutout for a lifetime.
Work on your game a little. Set a goal to get a second date but don't put so much pressure on yourself. After months pass by...tell one of these hot girls you need their help..."I can't seem to connect with people I find attractive, how can I improve myself?" Might result in date two or constructive criticism for the next one.
Good luck! :eek:
 

HOOP DREAMS said:
Gopher Hole: Are you expecting all seven of them to be in Hampton for the Boo Williams Invitational this weekend?

Tyus Jones: I am. The U of M can’t be there because the old staff used up all but one of the viewing opportunities, so they wouldn’t be able to attend any games or anything like that, but all the other schools will be there.

Gopher Hole: They will be in the gym though.

Tyus Jones: Yes, they will be in the gym still.

---Can someone tell me the difference? Do 'viewing opportunities' allowed to be court side or talk to players after the game?---
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Working with some knowledge but the above is confusing to me too. Guys might be different from girls? I thought the biggest recruiting issue was the number of days allowed to observe. You have assistant coaches going different places, you add up all the days each coach went to view somebody and you only can total so many views as a staff. In that sense it is not unlimited...but that is girls. I don't believe coaches are allowed to talk to athletes at AAU events. Again, it's different for DI vs D2 & D3 and probably for girls and guys again. Not much help in conclusion other than it is complicated and confusing, even sorta once knowing.
 





Rashad come to minnesota be the MAN just like Whalen did for the womens team a few years ago... You and Reid would be like Macarvile/whalen... Every fan in minnesota would treat you like gold. Turn a program around with a new coach new system... You would own this town for years just like Whalen still does to this day..
 

gopherhoopsguy said:
Rashad come to minnesota be the MAN just like Whalen did for the womens team a few years ago... You and Reid would be like Macarvile/whalen... Every fan in minnesota would treat you like gold. Turn a program around with a new coach new system... You would own this town for years just like Whalen still does to this day..
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Great post. To add to that, you could use the Miller twins as an example of what it could be like if Rashad and Reid leave the state for college. The Miller twins achieved great success in college and have been moderately successful in the WNBA. Case in point, the Millers are not treated like gold in their home state, and instead have been largely forgotten since they left in 1998.
 

burton34 said:
Great post. To add to that, you could use the Miller twins as an example of what it could be like if Rashad and Reid leave the state for college. The Miller twins achieved great success in college and have been moderately successful in the WNBA. Case in point, the Millers are not treated like gold in their home state, and instead have been largely forgotten since they left in 1998.
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I guess you can make the argument men's basketball is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more important to us than women's.
 

Vaughn sounds like a strong UNC lean:

"I'm just building a relationship with Coach Williams and Coach Hubert (Davis)---really everybody on the staff I've got a good relationship with---and they were at most every game (last month during the open recruiting period)," he said.

"Every other day (we communicate). I talk to them a lot," he added. "I like Coach Williams and the staff, and I like his style of play and everything like that."

Vaughn came close to committing to Carolina on a recent visit, but he decided after a conversation with his family not to rush things and to play out this summer on the AAU circuit before narrowing down his list or making a final choice.

"I came for a visit (to Chapel Hill)," he said. "I was close (to committing). I was talking to my parents and stuff, but we all decided I'll wait."
 



I have (finally) come to the realization that the Big 3 will be going elsewhere...horrible for this program.
 

Parski1 said:
I have (finally) come to the realization that the Big 3 will be going elsewhere...horrible for this program.
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I'd say we still have a small chance to land Vaughn and a fairly decent chance to land Travis. We just don't want Duke offering Travis.
 

Plinnius said:
Vaughn sounds like a strong UNC lean:

"I'm just building a relationship with Coach Williams and Coach Hubert (Davis)---really everybody on the staff I've got a good relationship with---and they were at most every game (last month during the open recruiting period)," he said.

"Every other day (we communicate). I talk to them a lot," he added. "I like Coach Williams and the staff, and I like his style of play and everything like that."

Vaughn came close to committing to Carolina on a recent visit, but he decided after a conversation with his family not to rush things and to play out this summer on the AAU circuit before narrowing down his list or making a final choice.

"I came for a visit (to Chapel Hill)," he said. "I was close (to committing). I was talking to my parents and stuff, but we all decided I'll wait."
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Damn. This is crushing. I always thought he was a MN lean, guess my maroon and gold glasses are way out of focus.
 

Darn, I thought we had a decent shot as well. This is bad news. Perhaps since he waited Pitino can put on the final push.
 

I think people need to relax. He's said in the past he was close to committing to Baylor, but his parents told him to wait then too. Wasn't his visit before Pitino had a chance to make any sort of impression? Things could be very different now and could change a lot more before he makes a decision.
 

Elite athletes in football and basketball in this state just aren't fans of the Gophers. They really seem as if the could care less about their home state or college. Pitino will have better luck recruiting New York City than the Twin Cities. Vaughn's agenda is clear a prep school in the east then on to Chapel Hill for a year. Then the NBA. Vaughn is Carolina lock. Maybe Travis will be the exception but it would have been nice to get one of the game changing type guards Vaughn or Jones. Maybe Pitino can pull a mircle but that's what it will take.
 

Blackhammer said:
Elite athletes in football and basketball in this state just aren't fans of the Gophers. They really seem as if the could care less about their home state or college. Pitino will have better luck recruiting New York City than the Twin Cities. Vaughn's agenda is clear a prep school in the east then on to Chapel Hill for a year. Then the NBA. Vaughn is Carolina lock. Maybe Travis will be the exception but it would have been nice to get one of the game changing type guards Vaughn or Jones. Maybe Pitino can pull a mircle but that's what it will take.
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Suddenly he's a UNC lock? Unless Rashad visited UNC again, his most recent visit there was when Tubby was still the coach. Tubby did not play the style Rashad wants to. Pitino does. He also seems to be recruiting and relating to prospects much better than Tubby ever did. Don't you think things may have changed a little since Tubby was fired? People are overreacting just a little bit here. If he would have been close to committing to UNC within the last week then it would be a completely different story.
 

GophersOnTheRise said:
Suddenly he's a UNC lock? Unless Rashad visited UNC again, his most recent visit there was when Tubby was still the coach. Tubby did not play the style Rashad wants to. Pitino does. He also seems to be recruiting and relating to prospects much better than Tubby ever did. Don't you think things may have changed a little since Tubby was fired? People are overreacting just a little bit here. If he would have been close to committing to UNC within the last week then it would be a completely different story.
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That's fair but until you've seen what kind of style Pitino plays you have no idea what it will be. People have been saying he's a UNC lean for months now and this just confirms it.
 

Blackhammer said:
Elite athletes in football and basketball in this state just aren't fans of the Gophers. They really seem as if the could care less about their home state or college. Pitino will have better luck recruiting New York City than the Twin Cities. Vaughn's agenda is clear a prep school in the east then on to Chapel Hill for a year. Then the NBA. Vaughn is Carolina lock. Maybe Travis will be the exception but it would have been nice to get one of the game changing type guards Vaughn or Jones. Maybe Pitino can pull a mircle but that's what it will take.
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Not true at all.
 

Johnnyboy18 said:
That's fair but until you've seen what kind of style Pitino plays you have no idea what it will be. People have been saying he's a UNC lean for months now and this just confirms it.
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Did you just make that up? People as in random UNC fans with no connection to Rashad or anyone he knows? ESPN reported we were a front runner for him and in excellent position to land him. I think I may even remember someone on ESPN saying we may have skyrocketed to the top of his list.
 

GophersOnTheRise said:
Did you just make that up? People as in random UNC fans with no connection to Rashad or anyone he knows? ESPN reported we were a front runner for him and in excellent position to land him. I think I may even remember someone on ESPN saying we may have skyrocketed to the top of his list.
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So clearly the "random UNC fans" know more than ESPN. What else is new?
 

Plinnius said:
Vaughn sounds like a strong UNC lean:

"I'm just building a relationship with Coach Williams and Coach Hubert (Davis)---really everybody on the staff I've got a good relationship with---and they were at most every game (last month during the open recruiting period)," he said.

"Every other day (we communicate). I talk to them a lot," he added. "I like Coach Williams and the staff, and I like his style of play and everything like that."

Vaughn came close to committing to Carolina on a recent visit, but he decided after a conversation with his family not to rush things and to play out this summer on the AAU circuit before narrowing down his list or making a final choice.

"I came for a visit (to Chapel Hill)," he said. "I was close (to committing). I was talking to my parents and stuff, but we all decided I'll wait."
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When was Vaughn's visit to UNC? I was under the impression that this was a recent development.
 

GophersOnTheRise said:
Did you just make that up? People as in random UNC fans with no connection to Rashad or anyone he knows? ESPN reported we were a front runner for him and in excellent position to land him. I think I may even remember someone on ESPN saying we may have skyrocketed to the top of his list.
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They also said UNC was the front runner.
 


Johnnyboy18 said:
They also said UNC was the front runner.
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They said Minnesota and UNC with Minnesota listed first. Looking at those articles, they do not list the teams alphabetically. They also had this to say about his recruitment:

"@JoelFranESPN with the buzz: After watching Vaughn tear it up at the Nike EYBL it appears he might be the most coveted scoring guard in the country come signing day. On the first night, Roy Williams and assistant coach Steve Robinson were front row to take in the talents of Vaughn, as was Minnesota, Kansas and Michigan State. Despite UNC, Kentucky and Kansas involved we are hearing Minnesota is in excellent position to land Vaughn. Apparently, he is the type of prospect who wants to be "the man," and Minnesota and their newly hired coach Richard Pitino can provide that opportunity for him."

I'm not saying that Minnesota is/was the leader. My point is simply to prove that you were completely making up the idea that "he has been a UNC lean for months now."
 

I've already penciled in Vaughn for the starting lineup in 2014/2015. I've got Dre moving back to the point, a reasonable facsimile of Allerik Freeman or Alvin Ellis, Vaughn, the neighborhood kid, and EE.
 

Just because of the way the recruiting process has played out thus far, I'll be far more disappointed if we miss out on Vaughn than Tyus.
 

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