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MaxyJR1 said:
Who was I being the prick to? I was simply supporting a player that people seem to be ripping with some facts. I also said in a post that I don’t think he fits here and likely doesn’t want to be here.
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He is talking about USAF
 





I can't believe multiple GH poster are arguing against Payne coming back here. Especially after what we (or those of us who were watching) saw him do in the tourney.

The odds of us obtaining a better, more talented, more qualified center for this season are exceedingly low.

Not that it matters, he entered with a do not contact and is going to follow Willard to Maryland.
 








MaxyJR1 said:
Who was I being the prick to? I was simply supporting a player that people seem to be ripping with some facts. I also said in a post that I don’t think he fits here and likely doesn’t want to be here.
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Dave H nailed it....i was 1000% not referring to you with that comment.
 

Sandfort is reportedly choosing between Nebraska (who recruited him out of high school) and going back to Iowa with Nebraska being the favorite. The Lipscomb kid from Wisconsin has already visited Iowa and is going to take some other visits but I haven't read Minnesota mentioned (though I've read/heard very little in regards to Minnesota visits). Payne is going to follow Buzz to Maryland as many have already said here. I agree with those who'd say he'd be a no brainer take for the Gophers if they could get him, though he's a tough fit in this NIL/pseudo salary cap era if you don't have a lot of money. If Payne is one of only 2 big contracts you can hand out, can you build a team with his limited skill set offensively taking up such a big piece of the pie? If you're Maryland, you probably can hand out an extra big contract (or two) compared to Minnesota and that makes him an easier fit.

I think Heide is the type of guy who could potentially flourish with a bigger offensive role. I'd be intrigued with adding him. Holloman would be great too but he's kind of like Payne in that he'd probably require one of our biggest contracts and do we want to give that to a guy who is limited offensively? (I think there's an argument to "yes" here with the intangibles he brings as far as leadership and possible local excitement).

I am personally already a little nervous going in to this dead period (or whatever it's called). I feel like Iowa has already made more strides in adding a big piece in Sturtz and another starter in Manyang. Medved didn't have a Sturtz like talent he could bring with him but Crocker-Johnson seems to be about the same level as Manyang. There's another 3 guys or so coming (or will be coming) with McCollum to Drake that I would say have a similar chance at success as someone like BJ Omot, but have the advantage of already performing in McCollum's system. If we at least had Evans in the fold, I'd feel better, but I still wonder where we are going to get our big pieces/stars from? As a good friend said to me, we likely will either have to overpay for 1-2 big pieces and sacrifice depth or try to put 8 guys together making similar dollar amounts and hope 1 of them breaks out in a big way. As of right now we've got two guys I'd be fine with in a top 8 in Asuma and Crocker-Johnson and and a 3rd who probably would be fine in Omot.

I am not at all saying the sky is falling as the process is just getting started, but I didn't think we'd be a week in and Crocker-Johnson would be the headline addition.
 



Payne: 10 PPG, 5 RPG, can't shoot outside of the paint, can't hit a FT, has 1 year left
Crocker-Johnson: 9 PPG, 4 RPG, can hit a 3, can hit a FT, has 2 years left.

Yet so many on here are acting like Payne would be a significant addition and just shrug their shoulders at adding Crocker-Johnson.
 

EG#9 said:
Sandfort is reportedly choosing between Nebraska (who recruited him out of high school) and going back to Iowa with Nebraska being the favorite. The Lipscomb kid from Wisconsin has already visited Iowa and is going to take some other visits but I haven't read Minnesota mentioned (though I've read/heard very little in regards to Minnesota visits). Payne is going to follow Buzz to Maryland as many have already said here. I agree with those who'd say he'd be a no brainer take for the Gophers if they could get him, though he's a tough fit in this NIL/pseudo salary cap era if you don't have a lot of money. If Payne is one of only 2 big contracts you can hand out, can you build a team with his limited skill set offensively taking up such a big piece of the pie? If you're Maryland, you probably can hand out an extra big contract (or two) compared to Minnesota and that makes him an easier fit.

I think Heide is the type of guy who could potentially flourish with a bigger offensive role. I'd be intrigued with adding him. Holloman would be great too but he's kind of like Payne in that he'd probably require one of our biggest contracts and do we want to give that to a guy who is limited offensively? (I think there's an argument to "yes" here with the intangibles he brings as far as leadership and possible local excitement).

I am personally already a little nervous going in to this dead period (or whatever it's called). I feel like Iowa has already made more strides in adding a big piece in Sturtz and another starter in Manyang. Medved didn't have a Sturtz like talent he could bring with him but Crocker-Johnson seems to be about the same level as Manyang. There's another 3 guys or so coming (or will be coming) with McCollum to Drake that I would say have a similar chance at success as someone like BJ Omot, but have the advantage of already performing in McCollum's system. If we at least had Evans in the fold, I'd feel better, but I still wonder where we are going to get our big pieces/stars from? As a good friend said to me, we likely will either have to overpay for 1-2 big pieces and sacrifice depth or try to put 8 guys together making similar dollar amounts and hope 1 of them breaks out in a big way. As of right now we've got two guys I'd be fine with in a top 8 in Asuma and Crocker-Johnson and and a 3rd who probably would be fine in Omot.

I am not at all saying the sky is falling as the process is just getting started, but I didn't think we'd be a week in and Crocker-Johnson would be the headline addition.
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Good summary. I think this is where most reasonable people are at, and thank you for articulating it. I personally need to see Evans or equivalent sign to feel like things are on track.
 


EG#9 said:
Sandfort is reportedly choosing between Nebraska (who recruited him out of high school) and going back to Iowa with Nebraska being the favorite. The Lipscomb kid from Wisconsin has already visited Iowa and is going to take some other visits but I haven't read Minnesota mentioned (though I've read/heard very little in regards to Minnesota visits). Payne is going to follow Buzz to Maryland as many have already said here. I agree with those who'd say he'd be a no brainer take for the Gophers if they could get him, though he's a tough fit in this NIL/pseudo salary cap era if you don't have a lot of money. If Payne is one of only 2 big contracts you can hand out, can you build a team with his limited skill set offensively taking up such a big piece of the pie? If you're Maryland, you probably can hand out an extra big contract (or two) compared to Minnesota and that makes him an easier fit.

I think Heide is the type of guy who could potentially flourish with a bigger offensive role. I'd be intrigued with adding him. Holloman would be great too but he's kind of like Payne in that he'd probably require one of our biggest contracts and do we want to give that to a guy who is limited offensively? (I think there's an argument to "yes" here with the intangibles he brings as far as leadership and possible local excitement).

I am personally already a little nervous going in to this dead period (or whatever it's called). I feel like Iowa has already made more strides in adding a big piece in Sturtz and another starter in Manyang. Medved didn't have a Sturtz like talent he could bring with him but Crocker-Johnson seems to be about the same level as Manyang. There's another 3 guys or so coming (or will be coming) with McCollum to Drake that I would say have a similar chance at success as someone like BJ Omot, but have the advantage of already performing in McCollum's system. If we at least had Evans in the fold, I'd feel better, but I still wonder where we are going to get our big pieces/stars from? As a good friend said to me, we likely will either have to overpay for 1-2 big pieces and sacrifice depth or try to put 8 guys together making similar dollar amounts and hope 1 of them breaks out in a big way. As of right now we've got two guys I'd be fine with in a top 8 in Asuma and Crocker-Johnson and and a 3rd who probably would be fine in Omot.

I am not at all saying the sky is falling as the process is just getting started, but I didn't think we'd be a week in and Crocker-Johnson would be the headline addition.
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Im not to worried. We all knew that the Drake team was gonna transfer to Iowa. Seems like Medved is branching out instead of just concentrating on old players.

Evans I 100% want on the team but not any of the other CSU transfers currently in the portal.

Looks like he values 6’7-6’9ish forwards with a wide offensive skill set. Until they start dwindling away, I’m not worried.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
Payne: 10 PPG, 5 RPG, can't shoot outside of the paint, can't hit a FT, has 1 year left
Crocker-Johnson: 9 PPG, 4 RPG, can hit a 3, can hit a FT, has 2 years left.

Yet so many on here are acting like Payne would be a significant addition and just shrug their shoulders at adding Crocker-Johnson.
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100%!!!!

The thing that I kind of laugh at is none of us really know how much the Gopher have to spend ala Purple Pride. We know where they are at salary gap wise, however we have no clue about the Gopher. We do live in a "I want it and I want it right now" time. We just need to chill a bit and let the new coach do some cooking.
 

GoldenMAV30266 said:
Im not to worried. We all knew that the Drake team was gonna transfer to Iowa. Seems like Medved is branching out instead of just concentrating on old players.

Evans I 100% want on the team but not any of the other CSU transfers currently in the portal.

Looks like he values 6’7-6’9ish forwards with a wide offensive skill set. Until they start dwindling away, I’m not worried.
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YUP and he still has what 1000-1500 players to choose from. We all need to relax a little here.
 



GopherWeatherGuy said:
Payne: 10 PPG, 5 RPG, can't shoot outside of the paint, can't hit a FT, has 1 year left
Crocker-Johnson: 9 PPG, 4 RPG, can hit a 3, can hit a FT, has 2 years left.

Yet so many on here are acting like Payne would be a significant addition and just shrug their shoulders at adding Crocker-Johnson.
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One played in the best conference in the country and the other played in the Mountain West.
 

GoldenMAV30266 said:
Im not to worried. We all knew that the Drake team was gonna transfer to Iowa. Seems like Medved is branching out instead of just concentrating on old players.

Evans I 100% want on the team but not any of the other CSU transfers currently in the portal.

Looks like he values 6’7-6’9ish forwards with a wide offensive skill set. Until they start dwindling away, I’m not worried.
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I think the tough part for some is putting their faith in Medved to actually assemble a good roster from the portal after watching Johnson fail to get it done the past few seasons.

There is zero reason to panic right now, Medved has been here a little over a week and there are still a ridiculous number of players uncommitted in the portal with more going in every day.
 


Johnnyboy18 said:
One played in the best conference in the country and the other played in the Mountain West.
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One also averaged 25.5pts/7.5 boards in the tournament and the other averaged 9.5pts/6.5 boards.

I'm as excited for JCJ as the next guy, but hes not on Payne's level. They have vastly different skill sets, but as an overall contributor and ball player, its Payne and its not even close.

That said I'm also on the train of not wanting him this time around. I want the offense to be a bit more fluid with EVERYONE being able to stretch the floor, and nobody being a liability at the FT line.
 

Johnnyboy18 said:
One played in the best conference in the country and the other played in the Mountain West.
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There isn’t much difference in jumping from the Mountain West to the B1G/SEC. Plenty of guys make that jump and are just as good or even better. The Mountian West put just as many teams in the tournament as the ACC.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
There isn’t much difference in jumping from the Mountain West to the B1G/SEC. Plenty of guys make that jump and are just as good or even better. The Mountian West put just as many teams in the tournament as the ACC.
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LOL

You're not this dumb stop it. Payne played on a top 18 team and played on a conference where 14 teams made the tournament. There is no comparison between the 2 and that's alright. Not to mention they don't even play the same position.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
Payne: 10 PPG, 5 RPG, can't shoot outside of the paint, can't hit a FT, has 1 year left
Crocker-Johnson: 9 PPG, 4 RPG, can hit a 3, can hit a FT, has 2 years left.

Yet so many on here are acting like Payne would be a significant addition and just shrug their shoulders at adding Crocker-Johnson.
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He’s not one of us. Payne is.
 


There seems to be concern here because we have yet to sign a "star". Sure it's nice to catch a headline with a "star" but I think with Niko and being a week in I'm not worried. Partly because that isn't his style. We've gone 12 straight years now where our coach could not develop a star and had their offense 100% rely on just purely talented guys. So if we didn't find a Carr, Garcia type we were probably screwed. Niko actually runs a coherent offense and uses players better than pitino and CBJ.

Now, some will argue, but he had Roddy, Stevens, Clifford. Yah lower ranked guys no one saw as stars he developed and highlighted. So as of now, I'm not worried.
 

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