All Things Gophers Coaching Search Thread (rumors, tweets, tid-bits and more)

But if every other major program has revenue sharing as mandated of 20 million, then revenue sharing is a push. They need additional NIL above and beyond that to seperate from other major programs.
Has been discussed many times here....the revenue sharing won't necessarily help us in relation to other Big Ten programs but we should be in a better position than a majority of non Big Ten schools which will give us an advantage over them....and there are lots of players out there.
 

Has been discussed many times here....the revenue sharing won't necessarily help us in relation to other Big Ten programs but we should be in a better position than a majority of non Big Ten schools which will give us an advantage over them....and there are lots of players out there.
I saw an article last week quoting an unnamed ACC coach who said you need a minimum of 4.5 -6 million for a top 25 basketball roster. 4.5 million if your coaches are unbelievable talent evaluators who rarely miss on evaluations.
 


I believe Pitino's contract was that if he hot "similar employment" there is no buyout period. I'm sure about Ben's (offset vs no buyout at all). Either way, it is like working for free the first two years. Ben will likely take a year off and count his $$ but maybe not.

Probably the best thing Coyle has done during his time at the U (not a long list)

When Pitino says “less than 24 hours later,” he really means “about 15 minutes later.” That’s how much time passed from the moment Minnesota athletic director Mark Coyle informed Pitino the school was going to announce his firing the next day, and when New Mexico AD Eddie Nuñez texted Pitino to let him know he’d be calling in the morning to offer him a new job. If it seems like those two messages must have been coordinated, that’s because to a large degree they were.
 

I saw an article last week quoting an unnamed ACC coach who said you need a minimum of 4.5 -6 million for a top 25 basketball roster. 4.5 million if your coaches are unbelievable talent evaluators who rarely miss on evaluations.
I don’t know if anyone knows the exact numbers, so take it for what it’s worth. Ruesse mentioned on Michael Rand’s podcast today the Gophers were at 1.2 this year with Garcia receiving 500k.
 


Probably the best thing Coyle has done during his time at the U (not a long list)

When Pitino says “less than 24 hours later,” he really means “about 15 minutes later.” That’s how much time passed from the moment Minnesota athletic director Mark Coyle informed Pitino the school was going to announce his firing the next day, and when New Mexico AD Eddie Nuñez texted Pitino to let him know he’d be calling in the morning to offer him a new job. If it seems like those two messages must have been coordinated, that’s because to a large degree they were.
Another example:
When Holloway was hired after St. Peter's lost in the elite 8 against UNC, it wasn't even an hour before they announced his hiring at Seton Hall.
 

Yep. To dump Johnson and hire Medved, the Gophers need about $10 million for buyouts and year 1 pay. Then, if it's a serious school, they'd need another $1.5 - $2.5 million for quality assistant coaches plus any assistant buyouts.

That's about $12 million needed to get the coaches in place.
Plus at least $5M for a competitive roster.
 





I think the IU job is a tough one. The expectations are sky high, even though they haven't really been INDIANA FREAKING BASKETBALL for about 20 years, and their fans are delusional, clutching to the old days like grim death. In so many ways it does feel like the basketball version of Nebraska football. Once great, probably never going to be at that level again. Wash, rinse, repeat with a new coach.
I get the general idea of this for sure. That said, they have a TON of money, when building a team of essentially 10 guys, that's a lot more doable for the right coach. Nebraska needs like 40-60 football players, basketball you can go from average to amazing in a quick hurry if you pair their money with an elite coach.
 

I get the general idea of this for sure. That said, they have a TON of money, when building a team of essentially 10 guys, that's a lot more doable for the right coach. Nebraska needs like 40-60 football players, basketball you can go from average to amazing in a quick hurry if you pair their money with an elite coach.
THIS is the mentality that needs to be employed once here at the U. Put a surge on it. Get behind the coach with everything- this is a sport you can succeed and win big in. Let's hope Niko is elite.
 

I get the general idea of this for sure. That said, they have a TON of money, when building a team of essentially 10 guys, that's a lot more doable for the right coach. Nebraska needs like 40-60 football players, basketball you can go from average to amazing in a quick hurry if you pair their money with an elite coach.

Michigan Wolverines say hi. Pretty nice turnaround for them this year.
 




But if every other major program has revenue sharing as mandated of 20 million, then revenue sharing is a push. Unless the U gives a much higher percentage of their revenue share towards basketball versus football. They need additional NIL above and beyond that to seperate from other major programs.

The best way I heard it explained is this:

If Michigan spent $5 million for their roster this season, and the Gophers spent $1 million on our roster, Michigan spent 5x as much as the Gophers.

If they both add $3 million in revenue sharing next season, Michigan will spend $8 million and the Gophers will spend $4 million next season. The gap is now only 2x.

That means the lower tier teams in the B1G will significantly close the gap, and also have more money to spend than most other schools outside of the SEC.
 

I saw an article last week quoting an unnamed ACC coach who said you need a minimum of 4.5 -6 million for a top 25 basketball roster. 4.5 million if your coaches are unbelievable talent evaluators who rarely miss on evaluations.
Its estimated numbers for power 4 basketball rev share are in the 3-3.5 million range. If Minnesota leans toward the high end as Coyle has indicated and they can get NIL up to around 1.5 million then your up around the 5 million area. Hopefully that would allow a decent roster but it still is on the coaching staff to find the right fits in the portal. Kansas, Kansas St, and Indiana had high priced rosters that didn’t fit.
 

Its estimated numbers for power 4 basketball rev share are in the 3-3.5 million range. If Minnesota leans toward the high end as Coyle has indicated and they can get NIL up to around 1.5 million then your up around the 5 million area. Hopefully that would allow a decent roster but it still is on the coaching staff to find the right fits in the portal. Kansas, Kansas St, and Indiana had high priced rosters that didn’t fit.
Great point! Having a good amount of money to compete with the top 30 or so teams for pay and then putting together a roster that fits. Do that and you can win big.
 



Wisconsin and Purdue didn't spend anywhere near $5 million for their rosters.
Wisconsin spent between $2.5M and $4M on its roster. They will have to increase that number to remain competitive, especially if a new gopher coach can shut off the MN pipeline. I couldn't find a number for Purdue, though I found an article that said Purdue is one of the top NIL schools in the country. Given that hoops is preeminent on that campus, I'm confident that Painter took good care of his roster.
 

Wisconsin spent between $2.5M and $4M on its roster. They will have to increase that number to remain competitive, especially if a new gopher coach can shut off the MN pipeline. I couldn't find a number for Purdue, though I found an article that said Purdue is one of the top NIL schools in the country. Given that hoops is preeminent on that campus, I'm confident that Painter took good care of his roster.
Both Wisconsin and Purdue are in college towns where an athlete endorsing a business or product could be money well spent for a business. What NIL really is. I could easily see that being a source for them. That’s a separate issue than pay for play. Larger metro areas are less likely to see the value of a college athlete advertising for them, thus creating an environment that may lead to an advantage to smaller market areas. Unless businesses think chipping in for pay for play is a good idea business wise or to inflate egos.
 

Wisconsin spent between $2.5M and $4M on its roster. They will have to increase that number to remain competitive, especially if a new gopher coach can shut off the MN pipeline. I couldn't find a number for Purdue, though I found an article that said Purdue is one of the top NIL schools in the country. Given that hoops is preeminent on that campus, I'm confident that Painter took good care of his roster.

Lol a $1.5M range, come on. Wisconsin didn’t spend anywhere near $4M and neither did Purdue. And they will always be competitive because they have great coaches.

Most teams in the NCAA tournament didn’t spend anywhere near $5M. And there are plenty of teams that spent a lot of money and didn’t make it, or shouldn’t have made it - UNC.
 

Lol a $1.5M range, come on. Wisconsin didn’t spend anywhere near $4M and neither did Purdue. And they will always be competitive because they have great coaches.

Most teams in the NCAA tournament didn’t spend anywhere near $5M. And there are plenty of teams that spent a lot of money and didn’t make it, or shouldn’t have made it - UNC.
You have to have a great coach and money.

Here we go again. Give me some data beyond saying "most teams..."
 

Lol a $1.5M range, come on. Wisconsin didn’t spend anywhere near $4M and neither did Purdue. And they will always be competitive because they have great coaches.

Most teams in the NCAA tournament didn’t spend anywhere near $5M. And there are plenty of teams that spent a lot of money and didn’t make it, or shouldn’t have made it - UNC.
I’m pretty sure I read a quote from Gard before the season saying he expected their NIL to be between 2.4 and 4 million.
 

They need to regulate the NIL spending like the rookie salary caps in the Pro sports. That would begin to re-level the playing field and keep it from swirling further out of control.
 

The best way I heard it explained is this:

If Michigan spent $5 million for their roster this season, and the Gophers spent $1 million on our roster, Michigan spent 5x as much as the Gophers.

If they both add $3 million in revenue sharing next season, Michigan will spend $8 million and the Gophers will spend $4 million next season. The gap is now only 2x.

That means the lower tier teams in the B1G will significantly close the gap, and also have more money to spend than most other schools outside of the SEC.

Thanks for this. It's a math problem that actually gets easier for the lesser NIL schools because of revenue sharing. Regardless of the actual numbers - the reported ranges are still fairly large - revenue sharing creates a salary floor that guarantees B1G schools can spend enough to create one of the most competitive conferences top to bottom. The hope is that a combination of the new coach, an increase in NIL, facilities, and culture will allow the program to create some sustainability like the football program has.
 

I’m pretty sure I read a quote from Gard before the season saying he expected their NIL to be between 2.4 and 4 million.
If so, that is a ton of money for the way they put their rosters together. Beyond Tonje, there is just no one that jumps out at you as a guy that would rake in a ton in the portal. They just have a bunch of good sound basketball players that play the right way and can shoot it.
 

They need to regulate the NIL spending like the rookie salary caps in the Pro sports. That would begin to re-level the playing field and keep it from swirling further out of control.
I think they should also distinguish between pay for play and NIL. They are significantly different animals and almost never differentiated. In theory, NIL is earned by the athlete by her recognition and ability to market. Revenue sharing is paying her to play.
 







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