All Things 2022 Minnesota Vikings In-Season Thread

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6-1 is one helluva start, no matter how you're doing it. Of course they can play better, and will have to play better, but you can't ask for much more than what they've done.

Worth noting, for all the hate and hand-wringing about Spielman, the lasting impact of his last 2-3 drafts is fairly impressive, the cupboard was most definitely not bare.

Also worth noting, in light of the perpetual hate for Spielman regarding the OL; I think I heard a stat the other day that the Vikings are one of just 2 NFL teams whose entire starting 5 was drafted and developed. All of the Vikings starting OL were drafted in either the 1st or 2nd round. Ingram has a ways to go but he hasn't even been starting for 2 months. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
 

Big Red Letter Day for the Purple. Vikings won, and all 3 other NFC North foes lost.

Packers did get a nice back door cover on +10.5. 😎
I sense the celebration in Wisconsin will be muffled (for most).
 


Minnesota is 30th in made extra points at 84%. Only teams worse are Arizona 83%, and Denver 80%. I’m sure nothing bad will come of this.

What amazes me is there are 13 teams that have been perfect.
 

From the Parkinglot said:
Minnesota is 30th in made extra points at 84%. Only teams worse are Arizona 83%, and Denver 80%. I’m sure nothing bad will come of this.

What amazes me is there are 13 teams that have been perfect.
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I will continue to think moving the XP back was the stupidest thing they could have done. It continues to make a guy that sees the field for 10-12 plays a game, one of the most important players on the team.

I'd rather it be that if you run a play from the 1 yard line and convert, you get 1 pt. And do it from the 2 gets you 2 points. The team gets to pick what they want to do after each TD.
 


GophersInIowa said:
I will continue to think moving the XP back was the stupidest thing they could have done. It continues to make a guy that sees the field for 10-12 plays a game, one of the most important players on the team.

I'd rather it be that if you run a play from the 1 yard line and convert, you get 1 pt. And do it from the 2 gets you 2 points. The team gets to pick what they want to do after each TD.
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No way. It's great.

In fact, I think they should narrow the goalposts. Kicking is too easy now. It used to be a real gamble. It will make good kickers more valuable, and more teams will go for a 1st down on 4th down. That's a good thing.
 

Looking ahead to Vikes at Commies, I had thought Cousins had already made a return visit to DC, but not so. When they played in 2019 it was at the Zygi Dome.

Interesting that contest and their previous game (2017) were Cousins vs Keenum match-ups, though they had switched places.
 



We'll see how this all pans out, but he would look good wearing a different shade of purple.
 





Sounds like Denver is still selling. Give them a 3rd for KJ Hamler and Brandon McManus.
 




GophersInIowa said:
I will continue to think moving the XP back was the stupidest thing they could have done. It continues to make a guy that sees the field for 10-12 plays a game, one of the most important players on the team.

I'd rather it be that if you run a play from the 1 yard line and convert, you get 1 pt. And do it from the 2 gets you 2 points. The team gets to pick what they want to do after each TD.
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It’s put more emphasis on the 3rd phase of the game. I personally feel it was the best rule change that any sport has done as it provides for more entertainment. Now if we can only move the 3 point line back and eliminate the corner 3 basketball will be better too.
 

Damn, this Jaire Alexander isn't the brightest bulb on the tree. Apparently, he started the tunnel thing with Diggs.

 

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It’s put more emphasis on the 3rd phase of the game. I personally feel it was the best rule change that any sport has done as it provides for more entertainment. Now if we can only move the 3 point line back and eliminate the corner 3 basketball will be better too.
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It can be argued that a kicker on average has a bigger impact on the outcome of games based on playing time than any other position. About half of the times they set foot on the field they have a direct impact on points being scored or not scored.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I will continue to think moving the XP back was the stupidest thing they could have done. It continues to make a guy that sees the field for 10-12 plays a game, one of the most important players on the team.

I'd rather it be that if you run a play from the 1 yard line and convert, you get 1 pt. And do it from the 2 gets you 2 points. The team gets to pick what they want to do after each TD.
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Disagree. I think the move back has put more emphasis on Kickers but it turned a routine play into something less perfunctory. More teams have gone 2 as a result.

Coaches have preached forever there are 3 phases of the game: Offense, Defense and Special Teams. Need to be proficient in all of them to win ballgames, including modest chip shots inside 40 yds for the PAT.

I would be completely in favor of the NCAA adopting the same rule, or moving back 10 yds. Even if it is ginned up excitement, I like it.
 

kg21 said:
Damn, this Jaire Alexander isn't the brightest bulb on the tree. Apparently, he started the tunnel thing with Diggs.

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There isn't a guy that talks more trash while getting beat more than him.
 

GophersInIowa said:
It can be argued that a kicker on average has a bigger impact on the outcome of games based on playing time than any other position. About half of the times they set foot on the field they have a direct impact on points being scored or not scored.
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Then it's very important to have a good one, as well as a long snapper, holder and offensive line.
 


Ope3 said:
Then it's very important to have a good one, as well as a long snapper, holder and offensive line.
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It was always important, even before the XPs being moved back. Clearly I'm in the minority but I think they've made special teams too important, particularly the kicker that rarely sees the field.

Unless you have a really good kicker and/or a really bad offense, teams probably should be going for 2 a lot more often. NFL teams convert 2 point conversions at just under 50% historically. If you are successful at converting 50% of 2 point conversions, your kicker would have to make every XP to equal that.
 

GophersInIowa said:
It was always important, even before the XPs being moved back. Clearly I'm in the minority but I think they've made special teams too important, particularly the kicker that rarely sees the field.

Unless you have a really good kicker and/or a really bad offense, teams probably should be going for 2 a lot more often. NFL teams convert 2 point conversions at just under 50% historically. If you are successful at converting 50% of 2 point conversions, your kicker would have to make every XP to equal that.
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I do think teams should go for 2 more often, in today's NFL.
 


GophersInIowa said:
It can be argued that a kicker on average has a bigger impact on the outcome of games based on playing time than any other position. About half of the times they set foot on the field they have a direct impact on points being scored or not scored.
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Won’t disagree with you at all but they are selling entertainment and the possibility of miss an extra point to keep it a 1 score game is better. Does a kicker have too much impact on a game, probably, but from an entertainment side the rule change was genius.
 

TruthSeeker said:
No way. It's great.

In fact, I think they should narrow the goalposts. Kicking is too easy now. It used to be a real gamble. It will make good kickers more valuable, and more teams will go for a 1st down on 4th down. That's a good thing.
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This is why it's a bad idea. I hate the fact that more and more football games are being decided by non-football players (kickers).

I'd have much rather they gotten rid of kicking the extra point than moving it back.
 



Bob_Loblaw said:
I wouldn't have given up a 2nd and 5th for Smith for the end of the year. He's better than Hicks but not that much better than him.

I would be interested in a Stephon Gilmore trade or a move for a speedster at WR.
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As someone else mentioned I’m making a play for a kicker.
 



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