All Things 2022 Minnesota Vikings Off-Season Thread

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Mackey and Judd hear that Kwesi wanted to trade Cousins but the Wilf's wouldn't go for it. Ugh if true.
 

howeda7 said:
Mackey and Judd hear that Kwesi wanted to trade Cousins but the Wilf's wouldn't go for it. Ugh if true.
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I don't believe that for a minute. I found that podcast with those two clowns a month or so ago thought I would try it just because I needed to fill a few gaps on a few longer drives and they are essentially unlistenable 97% of the time. Just an awful podcast and exchange of Vikings ideas.

The young kid that does Locked On Vikings on the Locked On network is pretty decent and usually what I listen to on the drive to work in the morning; he injects his liberalism every now and then and he often gets too deep in the woods on schemes and concepts but I would recommend him for a decent Vikings listen. Mackey and Judd are just plain awful. Good grief. There should be better available options for Vikings fans.

Does anyone know of a good Vikings podcast other than those mentioned here?
 

"The Minnesota Vikings agreed to a deal with their first meaningful addition of the Kwesi Adofo-Mensah era on Monday evening, adding run-stuffing defensive tackle Harrison Phillips on a three-year, $19.5 million deal that can be officially signed Wednesday.

It’s an interesting move for a Vikings regime that inherited a roster with two starting defensive tackles already on it (Michael Pierce and Dalvin Tomlinson) and with a looming switch to a 3-4 scheme run by new coordinator Ed Donatell.

Phillips, a 26-year-old Nebraska native who started eight games for the Buffalo Bills last season, was the 96th-ranked free agent available, per The Athletic’s Sheil Kapadia’s breakdown..

theathletic.com

Vikings agree to deal with DT Harrison Phillips, release DT Michael Pierce

The Vikings agreed to a three-year, $19.5 million contract with the run-stuffing defensive tackle, but important decisions loom.
theathletic.com theathletic.com
 


Ogee Oglethorpe said:
I don't believe that for a minute. I found that podcast with those two clowns a month or so ago thought I would try it just because I needed to fill a few gaps on a few longer drives and they are essentially unlistenable 97% of the time. Just an awful podcast and exchange of Vikings ideas.

The young kid that does Locked On Vikings on the Locked On network is pretty decent and usually what I listen to on the drive to work in the morning; he injects his liberalism every now and then and he often gets too deep in the woods on schemes and concepts but I would recommend him for a decent Vikings listen. Mackey and Judd are just plain awful. Good grief. There should be better available options for Vikings fans.

Does anyone know of a good Vikings podcast other than those mentioned here?
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I recall on kfan they once mentioned that leber had a podcast.
 



Spaulding!No! said:
I recall on kfan they once mentioned that leber had a podcast.
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Mackey and Judd are just like us rubes here who say what we think. I love listening to them. For one, I'm not going to get politics or any other bullshit mixed in.

I do the podcasts though, so I can skip through stuff.

By the way, they claim to have sources who say Kwesi wanted to trade Cousins, but the Wilfs wouldn't let him. Sick, if true. I don't know how the hell they could just make that up.
 
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Iceland12 said:
"The Minnesota Vikings agreed to a deal with their first meaningful addition of the Kwesi Adofo-Mensah era on Monday evening, adding run-stuffing defensive tackle Harrison Phillips on a three-year, $19.5 million deal that can be officially signed Wednesday.

It’s an interesting move for a Vikings regime that inherited a roster with two starting defensive tackles already on it (Michael Pierce and Dalvin Tomlinson) and with a looming switch to a 3-4 scheme run by new coordinator Ed Donatell.

Phillips, a 26-year-old Nebraska native who started eight games for the Buffalo Bills last season, was the 96th-ranked free agent available, per The Athletic’s Sheil Kapadia’s breakdown..

theathletic.com

Vikings agree to deal with DT Harrison Phillips, release DT Michael Pierce

The Vikings agreed to a three-year, $19.5 million contract with the run-stuffing defensive tackle, but important decisions loom.
theathletic.com theathletic.com
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The above move made Michael Pierce expendable apparently; Pierce cut later last night. Phillips plays a similar position at a cheaper number I believe. Not sure if this is a net positive or not, but clearing more space by cutting Pierce
 



Ogee Oglethorpe said:
The above move made Michael Pierce expendable apparently; Pierce cut later last night. Phillips plays a similar position at a cheaper number I believe. Not sure if this is a net positive or not, but clearing more space by cutting Pierce
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They tried to get Pierce to re-negotiate, and he wouldnt. These are the corresponding moves
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
I don't believe that for a minute. I found that podcast with those two clowns a month or so ago thought I would try it just because I needed to fill a few gaps on a few longer drives and they are essentially unlistenable 97% of the time. Just an awful podcast and exchange of Vikings ideas.

The young kid that does Locked On Vikings on the Locked On network is pretty decent and usually what I listen to on the drive to work in the morning; he injects his liberalism every now and then and he often gets too deep in the woods on schemes and concepts but I would recommend him for a decent Vikings listen. Mackey and Judd are just plain awful. Good grief. There should be better available options for Vikings fans.

Does anyone know of a good Vikings podcast other than those mentioned here?
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I find it fascinating there is any demand whatsoever for any On Air NFL content (TV, radio, podcast, web...whatever) when there won't be a meaningful snap for 6 months. Not being critical, just find it befuddling.

The NFL offseason is just chewing up the rest of the sports landscape...MLB, golf and NCAA hoops are being left in the wake. Cripes Selection Sunday, and yet still tons of attention was diverted by TB coming back from retirement after a mere 6 weeks.

I get the irony, that I am saying this in a thread that is now 50 pages specifically related to the Vikings offseason.
 


Ope3 said:
I find it fascinating there is any demand whatsoever for any On Air NFL content (TV, radio, podcast, web...whatever) when there won't be a meaningful snap for 6 months. Not being critical, just find it befuddling.

The NFL offseason is just chewing up the rest of the sports landscape...MLB, golf and NCAA hoops are being left in the wake. Cripes Selection Sunday, and yet still tons of attention was diverted by TB coming back from retirement after a mere 6 weeks.

I get the irony, that I am saying this in a thread that is now 50 pages specifically related to the Vikings offseason.
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It is consistently impressive how huge football is in America.
 





JimmyJamesMD said:
Has anyone seen Draft Day?

That is the most ridiculous sports movie ever
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I'm actually moderately entertained by the film, and I'll stop and watch for a bit if it's on. Costner and a fairly heavily star-studded cast make it more palatable. From a strictly football/draft standpoint, yes, the premise of the movie is off the charts ridiculous. But from an entertainment standpoint, I actually enjoy it. Guilty as charged
 


Ogee Oglethorpe said:
I'm actually moderately entertained by the film, and I'll stop and watch for a bit if it's on. Costner and a fairly heavily star-studded cast make it more palatable. From a strictly football/draft standpoint, yes, the premise of the movie is off the charts ridiculous. But from an entertainment standpoint, I actually enjoy it. Guilty as charged
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Costner is the man. I just cant handle those trades
 

Ope3 said:
I find it fascinating there is any demand whatsoever for any On Air NFL content (TV, radio, podcast, web...whatever) when there won't be a meaningful snap for 6 months. Not being critical, just find it befuddling.

The NFL offseason is just chewing up the rest of the sports landscape...MLB, golf and NCAA hoops are being left in the wake. Cripes Selection Sunday, and yet still tons of attention was diverted by TB coming back from retirement after a mere 6 weeks.

I get the irony, that I am saying this in a thread that is now 50 pages specifically related to the Vikings offseason.
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I think the success of fantasy football has played a major role in the offseason value of NFL news. Fans are now much more obsessed for any info about the roster composition of all teams. I know many people who are not really Vikings fans but follow the sport to successfully compete as GM for the fantasy team.
 

Re: Mackey and Judd.

On Tuesday and Thursday, they have Doogie on for "scoops." I find those to be the most entertaining shows that M & J do, because they are not dominating the conversation. It's more of an actual discussion, as opposed to Mackey making the same points over and over. Judd - IMHO - has a little more credibility. He was the Vikings' beat writer on the Strib for a few years and he has done more actual reporting.

Mackey is a self-appointed expert on everything.
 

Extremely disappointing start to free agency. Apparently still $2M over the cap, can't sign anyone. Watching great interior OL free agents get snapped up.

2022 Vikings are going to suck. Bunch of old, expensive, not that great players, and asshole owners who won't get out of the way, preventing new GM and HC from doing what they want to do.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/start-to-vikings-free-agency-seems-a-little-too-familiar

One at a time, the top free agents signed with teams that have quarterbacks on rookie contracts. A superstar cornerback to the Chargers. A top receiver free agent to the Jaguars. The top guard to the Jaguars. Several guys who didn’t even deserve their contracts to the Jaguars. The Bengals built up their offensive line. The Jets and Eagles scarfed up Laken Tomlinson and Haason Reddick.

Salt in the wounds. It was an hours-long reminder of the money the Vikings can’t spend. Even with a Kirk Cousins contract extension that lowered his cap hit by $14 million, the Vikings entered Monday $2 million over the cap, per OverTheCap.com.

Free agency mixed in two Vikings free agents finding other homes. Mason Cole joined the Steelers a little after lunchtime. Safety Xavier Woods inked a three-year deal with the Panthers around sunset.

Throughout the day, no news came out regarding players who need to be traded or cut or restructured in order for the Vikings to be cap compliant by the March 16 start of the league year. None of the big-name reporters even speculated on TV about the status of the Danielle Hunters or Adam Thielens or Eric Kendricks’ of the universe.

Finally with the sun down and many free agents sleeping on beds of guaranteed cash, word came of a Vikings signing — the first of the Kwesi Adofo-Mensah era. The Vikings reportedly signed Harrison Phillips to a three-year, $19 million contract. In turn, they released Michael Pierce following failed attempts to trade him.

A defensive tackle. A defensive tackle? A fairly expensive run-stuffing defensive tackle? The ghosts of Rick and Zim aren’t still secretly running things, are they?
 

Gophers_4life said:
Extremely disappointing start to free agency. Apparently still $2M over the cap, can't sign anyone. Watching great interior OL free agents get snapped up.

2022 Vikings are going to suck. Bunch of old, expensive, not that great players, and asshole owners who won't get out of the way, preventing new GM and HC from doing what they want to do.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/start-to-vikings-free-agency-seems-a-little-too-familiar

One at a time, the top free agents signed with teams that have quarterbacks on rookie contracts. A superstar cornerback to the Chargers. A top receiver free agent to the Jaguars. The top guard to the Jaguars. Several guys who didn’t even deserve their contracts to the Jaguars. The Bengals built up their offensive line. The Jets and Eagles scarfed up Laken Tomlinson and Haason Reddick.

Salt in the wounds. It was an hours-long reminder of the money the Vikings can’t spend. Even with a Kirk Cousins contract extension that lowered his cap hit by $14 million, the Vikings entered Monday $2 million over the cap, per OverTheCap.com.

Free agency mixed in two Vikings free agents finding other homes. Mason Cole joined the Steelers a little after lunchtime. Safety Xavier Woods inked a three-year deal with the Panthers around sunset.

Throughout the day, no news came out regarding players who need to be traded or cut or restructured in order for the Vikings to be cap compliant by the March 16 start of the league year. None of the big-name reporters even speculated on TV about the status of the Danielle Hunters or Adam Thielens or Eric Kendricks’ of the universe.

Finally with the sun down and many free agents sleeping on beds of guaranteed cash, word came of a Vikings signing — the first of the Kwesi Adofo-Mensah era. The Vikings reportedly signed Harrison Phillips to a three-year, $19 million contract. In turn, they released Michael Pierce following failed attempts to trade him.

A defensive tackle. A defensive tackle? A fairly expensive run-stuffing defensive tackle? The ghosts of Rick and Zim aren’t still secretly running things, are they?
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The free agency period is usually one of massive overreaction. The big, splashy moves are often those of the Jets and Jaguars of the world, i.e. teams that will still probably stink. Usually the good teams don't have cap space to be luring top free agents. Even the ones that attract high-end players (Rams) did it via trade by leveraging almost every future draft pick, not free agency.

With that said, there are just so many holes on this team that you won't be able to fill it via the draft in '22. IF the entire team stays healthy, this could be a competent club. But if there are injuries of any kind, it will flounder in mediocrity, just like the last two years. Personally, I have lost a lot of my excitement/enthusiasm in this team post-Cousins extension. I just can't stand that they keep extending the guy that is the definition of mediocrity. I am also just grossly sick of the constant back and forth arguing over him. It's gotten to the point of Mauer, where all Twins talk was maybe 30% about the team and 70% arguing either pro/anti-Mauer. At some point, I just want it to be over and start anew.

Odd as it may be, I'd be way more excited if they traded him and signed a cheap guy like Minshew, knowing they may win fewer games. At least that would be a signal that they were ready to rebuild and were ready to admit they can't just keep throwing on band-aids until the current crew reaches AARP age. I'm just tired of mediocrity and the status-quo knowing until there is a shake-up, this team is not winning a super bowl.
 



forever a gopher said:
With that said, there are just so many holes on this team that you won't be able to fill it via the draft in '22. IF the entire team stays healthy, this could be a competent club.
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Health will be huge, for sure, and yes there are a lot of holes but all is not lost? I actually think a lot of the success of the 2022 season could hinge on some of the development of even just a few previous picks. How many, if ANY, of the following have any hope of being significant contributors in 2022 and beyond:

- LB Chazz Surratt
- OG Wyatt Davis
- DE Patrick Jones
- CB Cam Bynum (already playing big minutes)
- DE Janarius Robinson
- DE DJ Wonnum (playing more and more minutes)
- LB Troy Dye (had a starting role for good chunks of last year)
- CB Harrison Hand (getting defensive snaps and big special teams player)

The book hasn't been closed on a number of these players developing into major contributors, but it would fill some gaping holes if at least a couple of them step into weekly starter roles
 

I guess they're going to roll the dice on a Cleveland, Bradbury, Davis interior OL. Mason Cole got a better offer elsewhere.

Also would guess Cam Bynum will take over Xavier's safety role with how well he played in spot duty for Harrison last season. I think new DC has said something to the effect that he views both safeties as interchangeable pieces in his scheme.

Need a true #1 CB, but can't sign one. Guess they're going to try to draft one. I can see Hand maybe being the Nickel. He plays hard, have liked him for that before, but very limited reps. Who's going to be #2 CB? Boyd? Dantzler? Not sure I'm sold on either. Get Mackenzie Alexander the F out of here. Zimmer let him walk the first time for good reason.
 


forever a gopher said:
Odd as it may be, I'd be way more excited if they traded him and signed a cheap guy like Minshew, knowing they may win fewer games. At least that would be a signal that they were ready to rebuild and were ready to admit they can't just keep throwing on band-aids until the current crew reaches AARP age. I'm just tired of mediocrity and the status-quo knowing until there is a shake-up, this team is not winning a super bowl.
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Agreed. The Wilfs are terrified of becoming the Lions, so they won't greenlight a rebuild. Even though a team with Minshew/Bridgewater and $ for free agents would probably still win 6-7 games. So instead we stay hitched to Kirk, win 8-9 and pray for 10. All to maybe lose in the 1st round if we're lucky.
 

From 6 days ago:

The Arizona Cardinals released veteran linebacker Jordan Hicks on Wednesday.

Hicks, 29, played at a high level last season, registering 116 tackles and four sacks, but the Cardinals are making the move to give fellow inside linebacker Zaven Collins, drafted in the first round last year, more playing time.

The Cardinals had told Collins he would be the starter last season after selecting him 16th overall. Hicks said last year he was "pissed off" when initially told he had lost his starting job to Collins. He requested a trade, which never materialized, and the seven-year veteran ended up starting all 17 games.
 


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