Who should be in the 12 team playoffs?

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BigGopher69 said:
Crazy if you think their better then A&M, Bama, Oklahoma. Texas, Notre Dame, or Vanderbilt would make competitive games over these group of 5 schools
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What team scored the most points and put up the most yards against Oregon this year?
 

Ope3 said:
Even though they won, I think I would have preferred to see 8-5 Duke play A&M instead of 10-2 Miami, especially if they have a competent Place Kicker able to convert FGs.
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Duke wouldn’t have gotten in over Miami, they’d have gotten in over James Madison
 

DrunkDons said:
Not having a power 4 conference champion in the playoff sets a dangerous precedent and devalues the hell out of conference championship games. Duke isn't great - but they did what they needed to do. Slap in the face to the ACC if you ask me.
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ACC still got a team in but they did it to themselves with their dumb tie breaker rules, they open the door for this to happen, Duke was a 7-5 football team that lost to Illinois at home by four scores, lost to Tulane and UCONN. If the ACC did what the big ten and SEC would have done and just put the top two ranked teams in the game, than Notre Dame gets in and no one is complaining
 

The Deliberate Stranger said:
ACC still got a team in but they did it to themselves with their dumb tie breaker rules, they open the door for this to happen, Duke was a 7-5 football team that lost to Illinois at home by four scores, lost to Tulane and UCONN. If the ACC did what the big ten and SEC would have done and just put the top two ranked teams in the game, than Notre Dame gets in and no one is complaining
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The schedule is dumber than the tiebreaker
The tiebreaker would make sense if they had schedules with round robins within them
 


Some guy said:
The schedule is dumber than the tiebreaker
The tiebreaker would make sense if they had schedules with round robins within them
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It is but with the amount of teams in conferences now I don't think that issue can really fixed although next year the ACC is taking that to a whole new level of stupidity.
On another note with Miami going to A&M and winning, it just further validates the committee selecting them over Notre Dame. FWIW I didn't think Bama deserved to go but they went to Norman and won so clearly what do I know? Lol
 

Just a quick question here .....

why the hell is ...

Miami ... playing in the Cotton Bowl ...
Texas Tech ... playing in the Orange Bowl ...


WTF?
 

Some guy said:
Duke wouldn’t have gotten in over Miami, they’d have gotten in over James Madison
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Yes, totally understand.

I was just speaking to the point of no matter how ridiculous the ACC schedule/Tiebreakers were, still Duke was shunned as Conference Champions, based on the pre-determind format.

It would been a more entertaining game vs A&M, but I understand if they had gotten one the Top 5 Conf bids, seeding would have been different.
 

disco said:
What team scored the most points and put up the most yards against Oregon this year?
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Did you even watch the game? I am convinced you're one of those NDSU fans who thinks they can compete with the big boys, you show the same amount of delusion. Nothing I say will change your mind because you cannot comprehend the huge gap between elite Big Ten and SEC schools and the likes of James Madison and Tulane this year.

Occasionally, a group of five school deserves to be included, like Boise last year, which actually played quality opponents, showed us they could compete, and had elite talent on their roster. Tulane already play Ole Miss in the regular season and got smacked. James Madison lost to a mid Louisville team. Big changes will be coming to the playoffs next year
 




After watching all four (4) games, I can't help but feel this was nothing more than a unnecessary week of college football. Yuck.
 

Slim Tubby said:
After watching all four (4) games, I can't help but feel this was nothing more than a unnecessary week of college football. Yuck.
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They got your money (viewership). I didn't tune in a single minute of a single one.
 

Ope3 said:
Yes, totally understand.

I was just speaking to the point of no matter how ridiculous the ACC schedule/Tiebreakers were, still Duke was shunned as Conference Champions, based on the pre-determind format.

It would been a more entertaining game vs A&M, but I understand if they had gotten one the Top 5 Conf bids, seeding would have been different.
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The playoff should’ve been:


16) Kennesaw State (CUSA)
1) Indiana (Big Ten)

8) Oklahoma (beat bama in regular season also beat Michigan who is probably in the 15-20 range)
9) Notre Dame

12) Tulane (American) - they should not have been ranked higher than James Madison
5) Oregon

13) Boise State (Mountain West)
4) Texas Tech (Big 12)

11) James Madison (Sun Belt)
6) ole Miss

14) Duke (ACC)
3) Georgia (SEC)

7) Miami (should have been ranked higher than A&M, Oklahoma, and bama)
10) BYU

15) Western Michigan (MAC)
2) Ohio State


First teams out in order;
Utah
Texas
A&M
Bama
Vanderbilt
USC


I think the rankings suck

BYU loses twice to the same number 4 team. And has a win against committee number 15

Ranked behind Vanderbilt who has zero wins vs committee top 25?
 




I know some people are dead set that all 10 conferences should get an auto-bid ... but I personally will not vote for that. By the way, I don't have an actual vote.

I think having the top 5 ranked conference champions serves the purpose just fine in a 12 team bracket. Maybe expand it to top 6 ranked in a 16 team bracket. Plenty good enough.
 

Some guy said:
The playoff should’ve been:


16) Kennesaw State (CUSA)
1) Indiana (Big Ten)

8) Oklahoma (beat bama in regular season also beat Michigan who is probably in the 15-20 range)
9) Notre Dame

12) Tulane (American) - they should not have been ranked higher than James Madison
5) Oregon

13) Boise State (Mountain West)
4) Texas Tech (Big 12)

11) James Madison (Sun Belt)
6) ole Miss

14) Duke (ACC)
3) Georgia (SEC)

7) Miami (should have been ranked higher than A&M, Oklahoma, and bama)
10) BYU

15) Western Michigan (MAC)
2) Ohio State


First teams out in order;
Utah
Texas
A&M
Bama
Vanderbilt
USC


I think the rankings suck

BYU loses twice to the same number 4 team. And has a win against committee number 15

Ranked behind Vanderbilt who has zero wins vs committee top 25?
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This is the way.
 

BigGopher69 said:
Did you even watch the game? I am convinced you're one of those NDSU fans who thinks they can compete with the big boys, you show the same amount of delusion. Nothing I say will change your mind because you cannot comprehend the huge gap between elite Big Ten and SEC schools and the likes of James Madison and Tulane this year.

Occasionally, a group of five school deserves to be included, like Boise last year, which actually played quality opponents, showed us they could compete, and had elite talent on their roster. Tulane already play Ole Miss in the regular season and got smacked. James Madison lost to a mid Louisville team. Big changes will be coming to the playoffs next year
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I was switching back and forth between Oregon-JMU, ISU-Villanova, and Bears-Packers all evening.

Since I detest NDSU and have regularly made fun of their delusional fan base, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. But that should have been clear to anyone who read your incomprehensible post from yesterday.

Is there a gap between JMU and the top 4 teams (IU, OSU, UGA and Oregon)? Of course there is.
Does that mean that as conference champions JMU and Tulane didn't deserve a playoff bid? No, it doesn't. They did what was required to qualify for the playoffs and they lost in the first round. Just like Oklahoma and A&M (two SEC teams) did.
 

There's no reason to have a playoff in football with more than 4-6 teams. Yesterday once again proved that.
 


Some guy said:
The playoff should’ve been:


16) Kennesaw State (CUSA)
1) Indiana (Big Ten)

8) Oklahoma (beat bama in regular season also beat Michigan who is probably in the 15-20 range)
9) Notre Dame

12) Tulane (American) - they should not have been ranked higher than James Madison
5) Oregon

13) Boise State (Mountain West)
4) Texas Tech (Big 12)

11) James Madison (Sun Belt)
6) ole Miss

14) Duke (ACC)
3) Georgia (SEC)

7) Miami (should have been ranked higher than A&M, Oklahoma, and bama)
10) BYU

15) Western Michigan (MAC)
2) Ohio State


First teams out in order;
Utah
Texas
A&M
Bama
Vanderbilt
USC


I think the rankings suck

BYU loses twice to the same number 4 team. And has a win against committee number 15

Ranked behind Vanderbilt who has zero wins vs committee top 25?
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I don’t understand how this is any better? All it does is add four more likely blowouts and minimizes the regular season even more (top 4 teams don’t even get a bye anymore).

12 is the right number IMO. Just tweak it slightly where only one G5 school. Then Ole Miss plays either ND or BYU.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I don’t understand how this is any better? All it does is add four more likely blowouts and minimizes the regular season even more (top 4 teams don’t even get a bye anymore).

12 is the right number IMO. Just tweak it slightly where only one G5 school. Then Ole Miss plays either ND or BYU.
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I'm definitely sounding like a broken record but just go to 16 and be done with it. Top 16 ranked teams are in and seeded by rank.
 


PMWinSTP said:
I'm definitely sounding like a broken record but just go to 16 and be done with it. Top 16 ranked teams are in and seeded by rank.
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Who chooses the rankings? Certainly not anyone who has a financial stake in them .
 

GophersInIowa said:
I don’t understand how this is any better? All it does is add four more likely blowouts and minimizes the regular season even more (top 4 teams don’t even get a bye anymore).

12 is the right number IMO. Just tweak it slightly where only one G5 school. Then Ole Miss plays either ND or BYU.
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There's literally no such thing as the G5.
 

disco said:
Who chooses the rankings? Certainly not anyone who has a financial stake in them .
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Figure it out. There's financial stakes in any scenario. Folks will always argue a team should be higher, lower, in or out. First two rounds home games for higher seed.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I don’t understand how this is any better? All it does is add four more likely blowouts and minimizes the regular season even more (top 4 teams don’t even get a bye anymore).

12 is the right number IMO. Just tweak it slightly where only one G5 school. Then Ole Miss plays either ND or BYU.
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It’s better because more regular seasons mean more across the country.

Expanding with more at largest mean fewer regular season games matter.
I don’t think they should expand. But if they do they should expand with more objective criteria to get in and fewer selection picked at larges

Your suggestion devalues the regular season even further
 

PMWinSTP said:
I'm definitely sounding like a broken record but just go to 16 and be done with it. Top 16 ranked teams are in and seeded by rank.
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16 at large bids further devalues the regular season. The best thing about college football has always been because it’s the most important regular season.

If you’re going to make it all at large. Leave it at 12 or cut it to 8
 

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