The odds we do that and finish in 18th place next are greater than 80%. See Washington. Changing coaches every 5 years isn't going to fix the fundamental problem with Gopher basketball.
A lot of an AD's decision is going to be based on program trajectory. Year's 1 and 2 were bad but you expect some of that when hiring a first time head coach. Year 3 showed significant improvement with a roster full of players that could return.
No but to play devils advocate we are going to be rebuilding this roster next year regardless. At a minimum eight guys are out of eligibility so that 89 percent line you pulled out of your ass isn't really relevant to our situation. Yes the program needs more money and donors but part of that is on the coach and putting in that effort. Look at PJ and the inroads he's made on the NIL front with DTA. While not great it's a complete t collective and it's way harder to win here in football then it is in basketball. You don't give up and settle because it's hard.
Pitino wasn't fired after an NCAA appearance
The basketball history here is filled with scandal and cheating. Haven't won more than one tournament game in almost 30 years and that doesn't count per the record books. Why do you think this?
Just let er rip!
Is this sarcasm or are you being serious. Technically we won two tournament games in a seven year span post scandal, Clem also has five tourney wins that do count in the record books and quite frankly now that Michigan is hanging their fab five banners are you really going to play possum with the 90s era? I'll have a discussion if serious but if you look at our last 60 years of football history and have a basic understanding of football and basketball recruiting, understand the 300 mile radius for both sports to get talent, follow up by the common sense of paying more players and needing a bigger payroll for football. Do I really need to draw you a map? Even with the portal, there's way more parody in college basketball, the dance allows for more upsets, especially now as teams at all levels are looking to stay older, trickle down effect is much more obvious. You think FAU was paying transfers huge NIL money?
Look there is no place here for rational opinions like that....
Fake news.
More than one tournament game as in making the sweet sixteen. We literally lost 2 starters last year because of NIL. Minnesota is the 17th or 18th best program in the B1G. FAU winning has little to do with Minnesota considering they don't play in a premier conference.
Yet they all kept losing and you act like they all turned into God's gift to basketball coaching in lesser leagues. So you think we should keep the status quo when it's obviously not working. Got it. Our NIL issues are in part due to Ben's in ability to drive up donors, if PJ can do it in football it can be done in hoops too. FAU on its own has nothing to do with it other than one of their guards started his career here, but they are an example of the parity in the sport, which is a good thing you don't need to have a huge NIL budget to find talent, they're plenty of talented division one basketball players out there and under Ben we have failed for four years to put a consistent product on the floor. Anyways you want to just throw your hands up and accept being a losing program then you do you beau. Tubby has one okay year and a bunch of shitty years at TT, Memphis and High Point. Monson, really two tourneys in 19 years at Long Beach. I'm genuinely happy for Pitino but he got eight years. That really the hill you want to die on?
I don't really care if they fire the coach or not. Bringing in a new coach with the 17th or 18th salary in the B1G isn't going to do anything other than repeating this same process in 5 years. Would love to be proven wrong but I wont be.
I think they need to move on barring a miraculous run by Ben and the Gophers. However, I totally agree with you- if you are going to move on- go big. Pay big boy money for a proven winner or....don't fire the current coach. I said this in the past when we were firing Monson, Tubby and then Pitino- if you are going to do it, go big.
Did Ben magically find more $$ the past week? How in the world did his team win three straight given the dearth of $$.
It's coaching, great point. 1st great point you've had in your 15 year GH sadly though.
The reason we can have these discussions is that because the AD can't be talking much, we are free to add in our own thoughts as his thoughts, and no one can deny it. It's a lot like modern news, where huge percentages of it are speculation. It's not really a problem as long as we understand the difference between our inferences and fact. Pretty easy to lose the distinction though.Look there is no place here for rational opinions like that....
Not really sure what some expect Coyle to do or say right now in regards to the situation but also feel confident in saying that no matter what he does or says they won't like it unless it involves him firing the coach.
Let me start by saying I am not sure if you are being serious or making a really really really poor attempt at being sarcastic or humorous.
Good summation and this is where I’m at.
Forget Muss, they totally whiffed on getting Dutcher. Remember all the reasons not to go get him?
If he stays another year he will get a contract extension. His buyout will never get lower than it is right now.
Let's say that Ben goes on a good enough run where the decision is a close call. If Coyle wants to keep him but minimize risk, he could tell Ben that he gets a one or two year extension but with minimal buyout.
