What grade would you give Gophers coaches in loss at OSU?

What grade would you give Gophers coaches in loss at OSU?

  • A

    Votes: 1 0.8%

  • B

    Votes: 11 8.7%

  • C

    Votes: 39 31.0%

  • D

    Votes: 36 28.6%

  • F

    Votes: 39 31.0%
  • Total voters
    126
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Minnesota isn't Penn St., but PJ is in the territory of James Franklin.... Can't get this team to compete against the big 2.
Offense has no creativity. Have to either scheme to win that or have an identity. We did neither.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I’m

The problem is they went completely away from what they initially did on the 1st drive.
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That's not totally true. Ohio State adjusted after the first drive and took a lot of what we did away.

I know adjustments n game are something we don't see from our coaches very often, but competent staffs do it all the time.
 



topos said:
It’s pretty clear in the fleck regime, 7-5 or 6-6 seasons will be the standard, but the way he calls a game, we will never shock the world and beat the big boys.

I get there’s a serious talent gap vs Ohio State, but it just seems the last few years, we killed in every contest against top 10 teams.
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Lol we played one top 10 team last year... we definitely got killed (not). Highlights are still up on YouTube, type "Minnesota vs Penn State"

Go back to watching Gary Anderson miss his game winner on repeat
 


I gave a D. I don't mind losing to Ohio State and I think a lot of things can be corrected with development of young players. D will get better. Passing game is likely going to get more As. However, and the players are not at fault here, but the running game gets an F.
 
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A solid D.

The score is 3-14 midway through the 2nd quarter. MN is moving the ball and is near midfield but it's 4th and 1. Coaches decided that the fate of the game would come down to this one play and decide to go for it against the best D in the nation. The predictable RUTM fails. OSU scores a TD on the next play on a busted coverage to make it 3-21.

The game was essentially done that moment, halfway through the 2nd quarter. Gophs still probably don't win, but we'll never know if it might have been a better contest if the coaches choose to punt.
 


gopherbadgerman said:
Talent wise gophers were outmanned. The gameplan was ok. MN got beat by better players plain and simple.
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Talent: Perich is our best returner since Upchurch....so if you have a talented player why are we instructing him to fair catch? It appeared to me quick passes were open in the middle of the field...slants for instance...everything seemed poorly designed to combat what they were doing defensively.
 



F

This is more for certain choices eg short yardage, overall recruiting and development in year 8/9. This team has some issues. No shame in getting blown out by a very good team to great Ohio state team. Even the prolific 2024 Indiana offense was shut down last season. It does demonstrate how far away mid tier teams are in terms of roster. Without a hard, generous salary cap forcing talent distribution maybe it would be better for the blue bloods to split to a 24 or 32 team league .




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60's Guy said:
Talent: Perich is our best returner since Upchurch....so if you have a talented player why are we instructing him to fair catch? It appeared to me quick passes were open in the middle of the field...slants for instance...everything seemed poorly designed to combat what they were doing defensively.
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You really put the loss on the coaching?
 

GoGophersUMN said:
2 touchdowns short of covering the spread is bad.
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Is that the Gophers playing worse than expected or is it the point spread being way wrong? After seeing the talent disparity head to head the final score is not surprising.
 

caliGopher said:
That's not totally true. Ohio State adjusted after the first drive and took a lot of what we did away.

I know adjustments n game are something we don't see from our coaches very often, but competent staffs do it all the time.
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Oh please
 




I went D. The plan we had for the first drive (and capitalizing on OSU's late subsstition by subbing and forcingthr timeout) is what kept it from being an F. Some of the things that stuck out:
-Not having our kick returner return any kicks he good (busting a huge one on a kickoff return is one of the few ways you can tilt the scales when playing for a huge upset)
-liked the decision to go for it on fourth and 1, but going out of the gun and doing a predictable run up the middle was a horrible choice for how to do it
-felt like once the game was getting away from us, we too quickly just went through the motions instead of pulling out all stops and going for the miracle

Coaches dont get a bad grade for losing in Columbus. Thats going to happen to potentially every team who goes to columbus this year. They get a bad grade for not seeming to have played the entire game from the perspective of "given where the score is now, what gives us the best chance of pulling off a miracle, even if it also increases the chance we lose by 60"
 

akgo4 said:
Minnesota isn't Penn St., but PJ is in the territory of James Franklin.... Can't get this team to compete against the big 2.
Offense has no creativity. Have to either scheme to win that or have an identity. We did neither.
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If the big two are Oregon and Ohio state fleck has literally never coached against Oregon
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
Danny Collins is a big step down from Hetherman and Rossi
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This is the largest long term concern from the game for me.

When the color commentator is essentially saying how bad the plan is during the second half you know it’s bad
 

Still amazed by the number of posters who thinks Fleck's job is just to put a team on the field and make sure everybody has fun.

He's been head coach for what -- 8 years? And he's nowhere near putting a team that will compete for the Big 10 title on the field. His recruiting is terrible, so he puts together noncompetitive teams, loses, "takes full responsibility" and the laughs at our satisfaction in his lack of progress as he counts his millions. F
 

caliGopher said:
That's not totally true. Ohio State adjusted after the first drive and took a lot of what we did away.

I know adjustments n game are something we don't see from our coaches very often, but competent staffs do it all the time.
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We literally made a big adjustment a week ago to come back to beat Rutgers.
 

GophersInIowa said:
We literally made a big adjustment a week ago to come back to beat Rutgers.
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People don’t watch the games. They just sit and stew in their own anger

It’s honestly sad for them

People on this board after the cal game were saying we lost because we didn’t play enough man to man when in reality the defense played too much man to man
 

topos said:
It’s pretty clear in the fleck regime, 7-5 or 6-6 seasons will be the standard, but the way he calls a game, we will never shock the world and beat the big boys.

I get there’s a serious talent gap vs Ohio State, but it just seems the last few years, we killed in every contest against top 10 teams.
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Completely clear when they average 8 wins over the last 4 seasons.
 



MaxyJR1 said:
Completely clear when they average 8 wins over the last 4 seasons.
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Completely clear I was talking about the regular season (thus referencing the 12-game record range)

28 wins over 4 seasons = 7 wins and 5 losses

I’m not saying it’s the worst thing in the world. We know exactly what we’re getting each year.

We all know from experience it could be a lot worse. But it’s also a hard pill to swallow knowing we will never be nationally relevant in the new era of cfb.
 

GophersInIowa said:
We literally made a big adjustment a week ago to come back to beat Rutgers.
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I Guess abandoning your gameplan and identity is an adjustment. How long did it take?

Patricia made a few adjustments after one series and shut us down.
 

Some guy said:
People don’t watch the games. They just sit and stew in their own anger

It’s honestly sad for them

People on this board after the cal game were saying we lost because we didn’t play enough man to man when in reality the defense played too much man to man
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I believe I said very often vs never.

Not stewing in anything, also won't refer to average to mediocre as Elite.
 

topos said:
Completely clear I was talking about the regular season (thus referencing the 12-game record range)

28 wins over 4 seasons = 7 wins and 5 losses

I’m not saying it’s the worst thing in the world. We know exactly what we’re getting each year.

We all know from experience it could be a lot worse. But it’s also a hard pill to swallow knowing we will never be nationally relevant in the new era of cfb.
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No different from the last era of cfb
 

gopherbadgerman said:
You really put the loss on the coaching?
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I don't think any here thought the Gophers had a chance to win, but looking at how badly they lost...yes that is on the coaching. OSU covered the spread by more than two TDs.
 


MZBKA1 said:
Still amazed by the number of posters who thinks Fleck's job is just to put a team on the field and make sure everybody has fun.

He's been head coach for what -- 8 years? And he's nowhere near putting a team that will compete for the Big 10 title on the field. His recruiting is terrible, so he puts together noncompetitive teams, loses, "takes full responsibility" and the laughs at our satisfaction in his lack of progress as he counts his millions. F
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Outside of OSU, PSU, Oregon, and Michigan no one has put together a team that can compete for the big10 title in the last 8 years.
 

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