I also remember the threads and the Wren and Loon style posts that went into some thinly veiled racist comments and gang implications, but most overall the comments were of the no charges filed, bad judgement, what was an 18 year doing out at that time stuff.
Sorry, GL you will have to do your own digging, I do enough research at work that I have no inclination do it at home as well. If I recall correctly it was not under it's own thread, more in the middle of some Fat Pat lover's defense of his "thug" comments but I have been wrong before and this was 9 or so months ago.
To the point, if he committed a criminal act, or just a stupid one, he should be punished. I hope he was punished, the legal system and or doorman at the club decided not to proceed with legal actions, or so it appears, then the punishment should come from team. Did it? I don't know, I don't hang out at Bierman or around practice. Now we have a one man who posts here, claiming he witnessed an assult. Did he? how can we possibly know? Another claims something to the effect that he is a relly bad guy and he has the proof. Refers to one report then posts one from almost a year ago, which had been discussed here. I guess I'm old school, pre-Patriot Act, I still believe people are innocent until proven gulity, but I also have zero tolerance for coaches who are too loose with discipline. Brewster could have sat on the latest discpline cases and waited until after Saturday to give two game punishments, but he didn't. He found out and he sat the guys down before the press got involved. Wisconsin game or no, he did it now. We are to believe that he sits a starter and a key back up quickly, publicly, but does some "secrect" measures with a third or fourth string player, when going public would score him points?
It doesn't add up to me, Doogie. Maybe all of your Football playing and coaching experence leads you to a different answer, mine leads me to the idea that public punishments do more good, let the whole team know at once, let the player feel that he let down his friends, his team, his school etc. Most people do not enjoy that feeling and do work to not feel that way again.
Since I have already typed this much, let me tell you a quick story.
A Hockey player at UMD named Rusty Fitzgerald went to Grandma's Sports Garden one night some years ago. While he was there a fight broke out. The Cops came and arrested Rusty along with three Canadian junior hockey players who where in town. The cops released the Canadians, but kept Rusty for the night. The story hit the paper the next morning, a columnist wrote a scathing article about run away college athletes, the above the law, too good for rules, mindset etc. Would have made Fat Pat proud. The next day the police release a statement saying that no charges will be filled. The columnist writes another piece blasting the player, the team, and the police claiming special treatment. One week later all was made clear. Rusty had walked away from these three guys three seperate times. The Sports Garden is a big place and no matter where he went, these guys kept following him. They had taunted him, made comments about his Girlfriend, and pushed him on several occations, They continued to go after him, Rusty and the girl left, the three followed him across the street into the parking lot. By this time some other guys had noticed and came to Rusty's defense, the fight broke out, Rusty just stood to the side since the fight was at his car and around it he had to wait to leave.
The cops came arrested Rusty since they knew who he was, assumed he was in on it, and were told he was fighting by the Canadians. Rusty went to jail, the Canadians where given a ride back to their hotel. The next morning when the police started interviewing witnesses and matched their stories to the ones from the night before, the case fell apart. One week later the columnist wrote an article about rushing to judgement, and said he was sorry, something I may never live long enough to see Fat Pat do.
This is why I wait until the facts are in before I leap. As the Mutal Fund ads say "Past performance is no indication of Future results." If he did beat up Blarneys, and got arrested again I have no problem with his being removed from the team for good and zero problem attacking Brewster for not being in control of his players and recruiting "bad character" guys. I just wait to see what I'm aiming at before I start throwing rocks around.
The mass is over go in peace.
