Weber Still in The Game...Lemmme get this straight...

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Too Long in the Wasteland said:
Not to wish injury on any player, but it occurred to me that the best thing that could happen to the Gophers in this game would have been for Weber to be despleened by a blitzing Ohio State linebacker.
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Let us all know when you graduate from high school, we'll come to the party.
 

Wren....

"The U of M obviously wants to rid itself of people like you mobbers and bashers who like to trash student athletes."

Phok you!
 

The circumstances are different, but Snagglepuss (or whatever the Illini's QB is named) got forced into action last year. Do you think that helped him be a little better prepared as to what to face. Don't give me this "there's nobody else that can play QB" B.S. There are plenty of guys on the roster capable of taking a snap. Are the coaches scared that they are going to turn the ball over? Newsflash: That's already happening.

The real issue here is not only is Weber still in long after the game has been decided, but so is nearly every other starter. What happens if someone that the new coach is going to need to turn this mess around gets hurt while chasing points trying to make the outcome look a little less lopsided? What if the Gophers lose Kirksey, Tinsley, Gray, McKnight or Lair to a knee injury? There is absolutely no excuse for it. None. If Horton continues to play fast and loose with what little future is on this squad, he should be asked to step away as well.
 

station19 said:
I didn't realize the OSU qbs decided who went in and who came out.
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When you're man enough to go to your Coach & tell him to give the younger Future QB some playing time because you see talent that needs some in-game experience during your senior year when you know you won't be there next year then yeah you pretty much qualify as a leader...
 

imthewalrus said:
There is not another qb on the team. You people are so reactive that it really is fun listening to you all bash, trash and gash a college kid who just goes out there every time they call his number.

The U of M obviously wants to rid itself of people like you mobbers and bashers who like to trash student athletes. They want you to just go away. That is why they do what they do. This directive comes from Prexy B and Maturi. They call the shots and they feel that too many of the mobbers and bashers are just plain bad sports. They are doing this to let you people know that they are in charge.

They read your posts and just laugh...and laugh and laugh.

As they always say around the administrators' private lounge: "never let the mobbers and bashers and Weber trashers get you down. NEVER give them what they want. Let's see what great lengths they will go to on the blogs tonight in trying to bash Weber for what we administrators are doing and have done. Isn't it a hoot that some of them think we would actually allow a back-up quarterback to play in the the house that prexy b and maturi built..."

People, I just can't help laughing at you and the way you carry on, weep, gnash your teeth, mob and bash a young college kid all because the coaches during the past 3 1/2 years NEVER developed a back up qb. You fine folks are just as funny as can be. You are just SO easily had by this. Watch your blood pressure mobbers, bashers and Weber trashers.

You just aren't going to win this one, I don't think. Do you suppose that some people might be getting sick and tired of your trashing a GREAT kid? Take your toys and go home now...you just can go ahead and hold your breath until you are all blue in the face. Throw all the tantrums you want. You lose...
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This post has been long overdue. I was waiting for someone to articulate this situation in a similar fashion.

The name Adam Weber should and will be synonymous with other great American athletes who exemplified effort, desire, success and class, both on and off the field. Names like Gehrig, Unitas, Aaron, and Montana.

I can't believe people would take the time or effort to degrade a mere child who has given so much to this team and community. Joel Maturi (another fine human being) must spend countless sleepless nights trying to conjour up ways to defend this fine American athlete. You are right Walrus, we don't need to see the likes of Gray or for god sake's even mention the name Alipate as long as this Minnesota Icon is still able to QB this truley gifted team. These kids are all special, but Weber will always be held in a light that shines a bit brighter.

The degredation and criticism of Adam Weber isn't just a knock on Gopher Football, it is complete knock on America.

Join the many who will celebrate these last few games by honoring Weber and several other Seniors that made Gopher Football so enjoyable the last four seasons including names like Theret, Wills, and the others. They are all treasures of this state.
 


GoGophers2005 said:
What an embarrassment. Why is Weber still trying to be a bad quarterback during the 4th quarter in a meaningless game? How on earth is not our backup not in the game? Seriously Horton should be fired. Probably the most pathetic game I have ever watched.
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That was the most pathetic game you've ever watched? You must be young. I can name 10 Gopher games more pathetic that than one. Start with Nebraska, 1983.
 

Lighten up, Frances

jags1998 said:
Let us all know when you graduate from high school, we'll come to the party.
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Obviously you missed the first 6 words of my post. Reading comprehension is something they teach in HS, maybe you'll get to that next year. My point was the only way our coaching staff is going to replace Weber is if he leaves the field on a stretcher.

After sitting in a stadium for 3 hours watching our QB throw screen passes at receivers' feet there was a bit of frustration in my post. The fact that in 3+ years of coaching Brewster never recruited and/or developed an alternative to Weber is the greatest example of what a fraud and a fail Brewster was.
 

Too Long in the Wasteland said:
Obviously you missed the first 6 words of my post. Reading comprehension is something they teach in HS, maybe you'll get to that next year. My point was the only way our coaching staff is going to replace Weber is if he leaves the field on a stretcher.

After sitting in a stadium for 3 hours watching our QB throw screen passes at receivers' feet there was a bit of frustration in my post. The fact that in 3+ years of coaching Brewster never recruited and/or developed an alternative to Weber is the greatest example of what a fraud and a fail Brewster was.
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I agree with everything you just said in your second paragraph. Maybe I interpreted your original post wrong ... but it still looks to me like it says a good thing would be seeing Weber despleened. I do see where you said "I don't wish ..." Obviously, its not your intent so let's move on.
 

Gray sucks, Alipate not yet

Please lets get off the Gray kick. Gray may be too stupid to play QB ever - he can't even maintain his concentration to catch passes. Every game he drops passes that hit him in the hands. When he played at QB in spring and fall games he sucked. He is a great athlete but D1 ball at QB is about your brain not your athletic ability. Gray will never play QB at D1 level. Maybe he can become a reliable receiver.

Alipate is smart enough but has not worked hard enough to master the offense.

Do you want to tell the kids who have busted butt all year " We are going to put in a QB that sucks because there is some remote hope he maybe, could be better in a year or two." Yeh, that's the way to build team unity.
 



diefirma said:
Please lets get off the Gray kick. Gray may be too stupid to play QB ever - he can't even maintain his concentration to catch passes. Every game he drops passes that hit him in the hands. When he played at QB in spring and fall games he sucked. He is a great athlete but D1 ball at QB is about your brain not your athletic ability. Gray will never play QB at D1 level. Maybe he can become a reliable receiver.
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Exactly what leads you to believe that Gray is of subnormal mental ability?
 

He was getting creamed by sacks and they still left him in.

I don't know as a coach I might have put the back-up in just for the starters own health. At the middle point of the third quarter or fourth quarter might have been a good time to make a change the game was pretty pointless at that point.
The game was out of hand and Weber he was taking some serious heat and some nasty hits from tOSU. The way he was getting blasted, it might have been a good idea to change just so the QB is in one piece by the end of the season. He was getting his a$$ kicked because the line started to let the parting of the seas occur. This was an ugly game the last quarter, Weber
is anything but gutless, he has big stones for taking those hits. The guy has to be one tough SOB to take that kind of punishment, he might have saved the other guy's from getting pasted.I'm done criticizing him, that is beating a dead horse.
 

Sunday morning stats: Weber 9th in the Big Ten in passing efficiency and the one of the ten with the lowest completion percentage (55%). Most of those above him average 66% to 75%. He simply doesn't have the tools and is not a scrambler, either. Weber will end up 15-35 for four years as a starter, which negates the 10,000 yards. It makes no sense at all not to play his back-up when down 52-10. In fact, at 1-8, why not START his back-up?
 

imthewalrus said:
I just think you people are a hoot! You keep mobbing and bashing and trying to insult young Mr. Weber because he plays all the time. YOU people just don't seem to realize that there is no one to back him up. The coaches obviously don't want to put in any one else and don't feel it would do any one else any good to play this year.

So, you people just keep going off and saying the same things and it does absolutely no good.

Here is a note to any kid from Minnesota who may have a chance to take a scholarship at the U of M to play football or at any other Division I college or university to play football. Beware the "Weber Syndrom" that some so-called fans of the University of Minnesota Football Program are inflicted with.

You people have so rudely and visciously lambasted and attacked this Minnesota Kid that has done nothing more try his best to compete and do what his coaches have asked of him. You people are in the wrong and I am ashamed of any and all University of Minnesota Fans who act the way you do. You are ALL out of line. Severly out of line. The things you have been writing about this fine young man are horrible and there is NO place for the lack of decency that you people show. I hope others are kinder to your children...IF you have any...than you are to a great kid who had other options but decided to stay home at the University of Minnesota.

Beware athletes from Minnesota who are being recruited for Division I Football...beware of the "Weber Syndrom" that some University of Minnesota Footbal Fans are inflicted and infected with. Fans like these are NOT worth your time, effort or any kind of loyalty to your state University that you may have. Just read what they say about a great young kid who did stay home to play for the U of M. Beware University of Minnesota recruits. If these people attacked Mr. Weber this way, they will possibly do the SAME thing to any of you.
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LOL Who is this idiot??? So your ok with the diminishing fan base, 5,000 people left in a 50k stadium during 4th qtrs, the future of the program, get a clue you cry baby!!! Or do MN a favor and jump off the Smith Ave. high bridge please.................:rolleyes:
 



Great Plains Gopher said:
Sunday morning stats: Weber 9th in the Big Ten in passing efficiency and the one of the ten with the lowest completion percentage (55%). Most of those above him average 66% to 75%. He simply doesn't have the tools and is not a scrambler, either. Weber will end up 15-35 for four years as a starter, which negates the 10,000 yards. It makes no sense at all not to play his back-up when down 52-10. In fact, at 1-8, why not START his back-up?
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I was at Beaver Stadium last night to watch Penn State beat Michigan, who had an outstanding effort from Denard Robinson, yet failed to win. Why did Michigan fail to win? Because Penn State, who had a horrible offense under freshman QB Bolden, started a different QB, who played an outstanding game and helped lead the team to 41 points to counter Michigan's 31.

Bolden is a freshman. Ironically, he didn't start this game because he was hurt at Minnesota just last night (concussion). The new QB, McGloin, is a former WALK-ON. He did very well when he replaced Bolden last week, and did even better this week.

Penn State went from a horrible, non-existent offense to a very good offense with only one change: QB. And the replacement QB is a former walk-on. But half of the nimrods around here think that there is zero chance that we could do better than a terrible QB. Complete fools. Maybe Gray or Alipate are not the answer. That could be so. But Weber has long proven that he is terrible, and he cannot win games for this football team. Moreover, he is not helping the future of this team. Adam Weber seems like a fine young man. But this is football, not a popularity contest, and it makes zero sense not to make a change. The coaching staff deserves their failure. Frankly, none of them deserve jobs with any D-1 program after the piss-poor job they have all done this year.
 

cncmin said:
I was at Beaver Stadium last night to watch Penn State beat Michigan, who had an outstanding effort from Denard Robinson, yet failed to win. Why did Michigan fail to win? Because Penn State, who had a horrible offense under freshman QB Bolden, started a different QB, who played an outstanding game and helped lead the team to 41 points to counter Michigan's 31.

Bolden is a freshman. Ironically, he didn't start this game because he was hurt at Minnesota just last night (concussion). The new QB, McGloin, is a former WALK-ON. He did very well when he replaced Bolden last week, and did even better this week.

Penn State went from a horrible, non-existent offense to a very good offense with only one change: QB. And the replacement QB is a former walk-on. But half of the nimrods around here think that there is zero chance that we could do better than a terrible QB. Complete fools. Maybe Gray or Alipate are not the answer. That could be so. But Weber has long proven that he is terrible, and he cannot win games for this football team. Moreover, he is not helping the future of this team. Adam Weber seems like a fine young man. But this is football, not a popularity contest, and it makes zero sense not to make a change. The coaching staff deserves their failure. Frankly, none of them deserve jobs with any D-1 program after the piss-poor job they have all done this year.
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"But...but...but...the coaches know what they're doing."
 

Adam Weber is the nicest kid you will ever want to meet. If your daughter brought him home you would be thrilled. He will go far in the world. That being said he has his problems at QB and most everyone knows it. He does not handle the pressure of winning well. But anyone who knocks his work ethic or him as a person has no knowledge of the kid at all. Do I think he should be replaced when the game is out of reach, YES, but he is a great kid and that shouldn't be lumped by the bashers in his inablilty as a consistant QB. Adam, you are a fine individual, but get your degree!!
 

littlebigboy said:
Adam Weber is the nicest kid you will ever want to meet. If your daughter brought him home you would be thrilled. He will go far in the world. That being said he has his problems at QB and most everyone knows it. He does not handle the pressure of winning well. But anyone who knocks his work ethic or him as a person has no knowledge of the kid at all. Do I think he should be replaced when the game is out of reach, YES, but he is a great kid and that shouldn't be lumped by the bashers in his inablilty as a consistant QB. Adam, you are a fine individual, but get your degree!!
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No one has knocked him as a person...if Jesus himself played like Adam Weber I'd say he wasn't that good either...
 

It's really uncomfortable to think about folks, but how f'ing bad must Gray/Alipate be (at this point) to not warrant a single snap? I know it's the coaches fault for being idiots (sarcasm intended), but Brew/Horton are coaches who're literally "coaching for their jobs" & they won't plug Gray in, down by 42 in the 4th quarter. I mean it must be really, really ugly in practice.
 

Gray can't run the offense because he doesn't practice enough at QB? So if Weber gets hurt on a first down, what happens then? Quick kick on second down? Even if I bought Horton's excuses, there is no need to risk injury to Gray by making him run deep post patterns late in the 4th quarter of a blowout.
 

Costa Rican Gopher said:
It's really uncomfortable to think about folks, but how f'ing bad must Gray/Alipate be (at this point) to not warrant a single snap? I know it's the coaches fault for being idiots (sarcasm intended), but Brew/Horton are coaches who're literally "coaching for their jobs" & they won't plug Gray in, down by 42 in the 4th quarter. I mean it must be really, really ugly in practice.
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With two different head coaches this year and neither one putting in Gray at all you have to believe there is reason.
 



All season long AW played with his head on a swivel to avoid that big blind crunch and then...54 of OSU just smashed him in the 4th Q. Also, it did appear as tho he was told to never ever run.
 

gopherdudepart2 said:
I don't know as a coach I might have put the back-up in just for the starters own health. At the middle point of the third quarter or fourth quarter might have been a good time to make a change the game was pretty pointless at that point.
The game was out of hand and Weber he was taking some serious heat and some nasty hits from tOSU. The way he was getting blasted, it might have been a good idea to change just so the QB is in one piece by the end of the season. He was getting his a$$ kicked because the line started to let the parting of the seas occur. This was an ugly game the last quarter, Weber
is anything but gutless, he has big stones for taking those hits. The guy has to be one tough SOB to take that kind of punishment, he might have saved the other guy's from getting pasted.I'm done criticizing him, that is beating a dead horse.
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He was getting pounded by third/fourth quarter (I for one feel the pass protection has been decent most of this year), and thus, based upon Horton's logic (in today's paper) - that Weber at QB and Gray at receiver still gives the Gophers "the best chance to win" (what's Weber's record as a starting QB?), then why wouldn't he play Alipate or even LUECK (sp?) and save Weber to play another day? We do have three games left, right?

It's not, but for any Gopher fan watching this debacle, it FEELS like spiteful sabotage by an outgoing, bitter, and completely incompetent coaching staff.
 

littlebigboy said:
Adam Weber is the nicest kid you will ever want to meet. If your daughter brought him home you would be thrilled. He will go far in the world. That being said he has his problems at QB and most everyone knows it. He does not handle the pressure of winning well. But anyone who knocks his work ethic or him as a person has no knowledge of the kid at all. Do I think he should be replaced when the game is out of reach, YES, but he is a great kid and that shouldn't be lumped by the bashers in his inablilty as a consistant QB. Adam, you are a fine individual, but get your degree!!
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I believe Adam is currently in grad school. Great kid. I'm not going to bash him. He has some mechanical issues with his throwing and he can't seem to get through his checkdowns consistently. But he's given it his everything at QB, so I'm not going to jump on him.
 

TCF=UnitedWeStand said:
He was getting pounded by third/fourth quarter (I for one feel the pass protection has been decent most of this year), and thus, based upon Horton's logic (in today's paper) - that Weber at QB and Gray at receiver still gives the Gophers "the best chance to win" (what's Weber's record as a starting QB?), then why wouldn't he play Alipate or even LUECK (sp?) and save Weber to play another day? We do have three games left, right?
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This is where the decision to leave Weber in makes no sense, if he truly gives us the best chance to win in future games why are we risking injury with him in the late stages of a blowout? As you said there is no logic in that...
 

station19 said:
With two different head coaches this year and neither one putting in Gray at all you have to believe there is reason.
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I agree, but it would be nice to know what that reason is. I don't expect to ever find out, but it would help many of us understand what is going on with this team and the coaches.
 

tikited said:
I agree, but it would be nice to know what that reason is. I don't expect to ever find out, but it would help many of us understand what is going on with this team and the coaches.
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If the coaching staff would put in another QB at the end of these blowouts I think it would alleviate some of the misplaced criticism that fans and the media have placed on Weber. Fans want a taste of what next year is going to be like and the coaching staffs refusal to take Weber out of the game in a blowout is fueling greater animosity towards Weber by fans.
 

goldengophers said:
If the coaching staff would put in another QB at the end of these blowouts I think it would alleviate some of the misplaced criticism that fans and the media have placed on Weber. Fans want a taste of what next year is going to be like and the coaching staffs refusal to take Weber out of the game in a blowout is fueling greater animosity towards Weber by fans.
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Can't argue with any of that. I'm a Weber guy, but this is not helping him at all.
 


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