We stink.

[MNVCGUY]

I think of it a bit differently. The Gophers could go to 30 middling bowls in a row but if Rutgers would go to 3 playoffs and an Orange bowl, I'd say they passed the Gophers at that point.

Makes for an interesting discussion. Would you prefer a couple great years mixed in with a lot of bad years, or to never be great but also avoid those brutal years.....

Let's say after this year Cignetti leaves and Indiana falls back down to where they have been for most of the past few decades which is near the bottom of the conference struggling to win more then 2-3 conference games each year and missing even the crappiest of bowls most years.

Would the fanbase be fine with sucking again because at least they got close to the mountain top for a couple of seasons?

 

[disco]

Makes for an interesting discussion. Would you prefer a couple great years mixed in with a lot of bad years, or to never be great but also avoid those brutal years.....

Let's say after this year Cignetti leaves and Indiana falls back down to where they have been for most of the past few decades which is near the bottom of the conference struggling to win more then 2-3 conference games each year and missing even the crappiest of bowls most years.

Would the fanbase be fine with sucking again because at least they got close to the mountain top for a couple of seasons?

Define close to the mountain top.

 

[Some guy]

Makes for an interesting discussion. Would you prefer a couple great years mixed in with a lot of bad years, or to never be great but also avoid those brutal years.....

Let's say after this year Cignetti leaves and Indiana falls back down to where they have been for most of the past few decades which is near the bottom of the conference struggling to win more then 2-3 conference games each year and missing even the crappiest of bowls most years.

Would the fanbase be fine with sucking again because at least they got close to the mountain top for a couple of seasons?

A really good thought experiment is would you rather have the Illinois 2005-present or the Minnesota 2005-present or Indiana-present

Illinois
1 Rose Bowl
1 new years day non BCS/NY6/playoff
2 9 wins seasons
14 non bowl seasons

Minnesota
0 major bowls
2 new years day non BCS/NY6/playoff
4 9 win seasons
6 non bowl seasons

Indiana
1 playoff appearance
2 New Year’s Day non BCS/NY6/playoff
1 9 win season (about to have two)
15 non bowl seasons


Obviously you take Indiana right NOW due to trajectory

But if all three coaches quit today.
What 20 years would you rather have had the last 20?

 

[swede2]

A really good thought experiment is would you rather have the Illinois 2005-present or the Minnesota 2005-present or Indiana-present

Illinois
1 Rose Bowl
1 new years day non BCS/NY6/playoff
2 9 wins seasons
14 non bowl seasons

Minnesota
0 major bowls
2 new years day non BCS/NY6/playoff
4 9 win seasons
6 non bowl seasons

Indiana
1 playoff appearance
2 New Year’s Day non BCS/NY6/playoff
1 9 win season (about to have two)
15 non bowl seasons


Obviously you take Indiana right NOW due to trajectory

But if all three coaches quit today.
What 20 years would you rather have had the last 20?

I'd take Illinois.

 

[Schnauzer]

Makes for an interesting discussion. Would you prefer a couple great years mixed in with a lot of bad years, or to never be great but also avoid those brutal years.....

Let's say after this year Cignetti leaves and Indiana falls back down to where they have been for most of the past few decades which is near the bottom of the conference struggling to win more then 2-3 conference games each year and missing even the crappiest of bowls most years.

Would the fanbase be fine with sucking again because at least they got close to the mountain top for a couple of seasons?

yes, although that is an interesting discussion, I think it is fairly obvious the Indiana football program has surpassed the MN football program during Fleck's tenure and that was my original point. Just like the MN football program has surpassed Nebraska's in that same time frame despite the fact Nebraska won national championships more recently in the '90's

 

[Some guy]

yes, although that is an interesting discussion, I think it is fairly obvious the Indiana football program has surpassed the MN football program during Fleck's tenure and that was my original point. Just like the MN football program has surpassed Nebraska's in that same time frame despite the fact Nebraska won national championships more recently in the '90's

Agree
But I do not agree with the same statement about Illinois