UPDATED (10/19) Amelia reports no jail time for Trevor; 2 more yrs probation

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SelectionSunday said:
If it's her that really tweeted that, does she really think that statement is going to help the public opinion (what's left of it) of her guy? Doesn't sound like the brightest lightbulb.
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Trevor can only hope that with winter coming on she starts wearing mittens and her tweeting ability is greatly reduced.
 

BleedGopher said:
Gary Parrish:

So Mbakwe is fortunate.

Again.

But forgive me if I'm not convinced when I hear him suggest there will be "no more slip-ups" because all the guy seems to do besides record double-doubles is "slip-up." He "slipped-up" in junior college. He's "slipped-up" multiple times at Minnesota. Judge Fernandez told Mbakwe, among other things, on Friday that he doesn't "have nine lives like a cat," which may or may not be true. But there's no denying at this point that he's a Gopher who sure is getting chance after chance after chance.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...probation-promises-hell-have-no-more-slip-ups

Go Gophers!!
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It's really odd, cause the problem is, Mbakwe acts like a dude who's not in trouble. What I mean by that is, since he's been here, he hasn't really done much up until the DWI. I mean, he Facebooked some chick. Yeah, it was stupid, but not that serious. Did he have some dust up at a bar before too? I can't remember. But point is, with the whole Miami thing, he needs to act like somebody who is in trouble, like he is. He needs to realize that "minor" bumps in the road are actually quite serious when you have something as big as his initial case hanging over his head. Once he truly realizes that, he will probably straighten up. If he still doesn't quite fully grasp that, he's prone to another screw up.
 

New quotes:

"I can't say it enough, but I am extremely grateful that I have been given another chance," Mbakwe said in a statement. "I realize that this has been a trying experience for many, including the Gopher Nation. I want to thank my family, Coach Smith and many others at the University of Minnesota for standing by me. I am glad that I have the opportunity to put this behind me and move on."

New Gophers AD Norwood Teague was only two weeks on the job when he was alerted to Mbakwe's situation this summer. Teague said Smith disciplined Mbakwe the right way.

"Somebody asked me, 'Why is he still on the team? If he was the 12th man on the team, you wouldn't have done this,' " Teague told the Pioneer Press. "We would have. We would have done the same thing. I want to defend us until the end about how we handle all of our kids. We're not treating anybody any different. If I disagreed with it, I would have jumped in. But Tubby handled it. Tubby is still handling it very well."

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_21810711/gophers-basketball-trevor-mbakwe-gets-two-more-years

Go Gophers!!
 

Biglew33 said:
2nd, it is an insult to black americans who truly have been victims in this country. Trevor Mbakwe is not one of those.
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How the *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# do you know? Here angle and belief is he never had anything to do with the assault of this lady.

If he only had the facebook incident and DWI it would be much less of an issue.
 



katze019 said:
How the *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# do you know? Here angle and belief is he never had anything to do with the assault of this lady.

If he only had the facebook incident and DWI it would be much less of an issue.
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If Trevor had not continued to dig deeper holes after the plea bargain,he would be looking at this whole issue in the rear view mirror by now.
 

Biglew33 said:
This statement is appalling for two reasons. First of all, it is this type of attitude and the failure to claim responsibility and grow that has led this young man to where he is today. 2nd, it is an insult to black americans who truly have been victims in this country. Trevor Mbakwe is not one of those.
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I have been helping a guy who has been going thru the system- too long a story for here- but I see the system as more rigged against the accused than rigged against the black american. Now, the black american I have been helping sees it as against him because he is black. If you are relying on court appointed defense counsel you are in trouble, they are way overbooked and barely pay attention to each case. But the concept of innocent until guilty like we were taught is no longer believable to me.
 

tinyarch said:
First, I don't care if you and the GH Gestapo make judgments and claim victory. That in itself is moronic to think that there is some score going on in regard to posting opinions. Get over yourselves, you're not that important.
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Continuing to use that in every post isn't helping you any. You're getting on others for calling you names and such, yet you're essentially doing the same thing.

Second, I only have to ask you one question to prove my point.

Where are they now?

I've already pointed out that Blake was not used properly by Tubby. (Remember, my point is that Tubby is a really bad offensive coach.) Blake went out without any fanfare and with nothing to hang his hat on at the end of his senior season. In short, Tubby failed him.

Everyone of the kids you bring up want to play in the NBA. They think that Tubby will get them there. However, not one player under Tubby's tutelage has made the NBA as of yet from the University of Minnesota. I don't blame the players, I blame the coach.
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1. Making it to the NBA is a very poor way to look at things in my opinion. Would you say Talor Battle was not a good college player? Alando Tucker? Drew Neitzel? DeShawn Sims? Those are four guys (I'm sure there are more) that were top players in the Big Ten that haven't played at all in the NBA or barely played.

2. It's ridiculous in my opinion to put all the blame on the coach. Some guys just aren't talented enough to be an All-American or play in the NBA. I love Hoffarber and everything he did for the program, but I don't think John Wooden himself was going to make him into a drafted NBA player.

The one thing that has been a constant since Tubby came here is drama. The second constant has been mediocrity in the conference.
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I completely agree.

Tubby has failed his recruits and has failed to make them significantly better basketball players. The last six years are my evidence.
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Only one of his recruits has played four years under him at MN. Now you can put blame on him for players like Joseph and Iverson leaving, but that's a different argument.

I am amazed at the handful of people who miss the forest because of the trees. I mention the lack of improvement by the players to point out the mediocrity of the coach and you hone in on the players as though I'm attacking them. Focus. I'm telling you and the GH Gestapo that Tubby is a mediocre coach and has failed his players.
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I think it's because you're making statements that go against what most people have seen. Hoffarber became a better passer, rebounder, and defender over his career. He also had to quicken his release because he was getting so much attention. Damian Johnson most definitely improved significantly. He was one of the better defenders in the Big Ten by his senior season (many believe he was the best), and his offense improved dramatically. He shot 53% his senior season. His free throw % improved every year (46%, 56%, 67%, and 71%). Rodney Williams is a much better player now than previously. And it does not just have to do with him playing PF last year.

There are three players on our roster right now that I would bet will play in the NBA: Mbakwe, Williams, and Andre Hollins.

It doesn't mean I think (or anyone else) Tubby has done a great job up to this point. I'm disappointed in the past two seasons. Most everyone just thinks your argument has many flaws to it.
 

katze019 said:
How the *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# do you know? Here angle and belief is he never had anything to do with the assault of this lady.

If he only had the facebook incident and DWI it would be much less of an issue.
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That has nothing to do with race. In most cases, friends and family of the accused think they are innocent. That doesn't mean they always are.
 



BleedGopher said:
New quotes:

"I can't say it enough, but I am extremely grateful that I have been given another chance," Mbakwe said in a statement. "I realize that this has been a trying experience for many, including the Gopher Nation. I want to thank my family, Coach Smith and many others at the University of Minnesota for standing by me. I am glad that I have the opportunity to put this behind me and move on."

New Gophers AD Norwood Teague was only two weeks on the job when he was alerted to Mbakwe's situation this summer. Teague said Smith disciplined Mbakwe the right way.

"Somebody asked me, 'Why is he still on the team? If he was the 12th man on the team, you wouldn't have done this,' " Teague told the Pioneer Press. "We would have. We would have done the same thing. I want to defend us until the end about how we handle all of our kids. We're not treating anybody any different. If I disagreed with it, I would have jumped in. But Tubby handled it. Tubby is still handling it very well."

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_21810711/gophers-basketball-trevor-mbakwe-gets-two-more-years

Go Gophers!!
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Poor decisions at the U by the head coach and AD.

We are now a win at all costs school. Great.

No more whining about what other schools do for discipline, please. This yoyo has been given so many opportunities. It is obvious tubby needs him to win this year. THAT is why he is still on the team. Anyone else, bye bye.
 


Since the Mbakwe/White class, you can tell that Tubby has made an effort to recruit coach-able, character guys. Both recruits from this year and next year seem to fit that trend also.
 







Based on what I read on Twitter and the blog updates today, Mbakwe clearly assaulted that woman in Miami. Am I the only one that sees it that way, or is my reading comprehension that bad?
 

I don't blame Tubby for approaching his recruiting of future U of M players with egg shells for a sidewalk. If he had not ended up with TM, or signed RW, everyone would have been on his ass for not getting the best MN players here. He took a chance, got fisticuffed by both. So as a result, Tubby's first priority is character, and I *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#ing don't blame him. "Burn me once, shame on you, I will never give anyone of questionable character a chance to burn me and cause endless problems again, all so that people like Soupcan, Reussegut, et.al. can *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# me over with their never ending bitching and complaining and stupidity."

The Doc has so declared his support for Orlando "Tubby" Smith, and I don't give a damn what jamalo/tinyarch says.
 

MinnesotaBoiler99 said:
Based on what I read on Twitter and the blog updates today, Mbakwe clearly assaulted that women in Miami. Am I the only one that sees it that way, or is my reading comprehension that bad?
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I don't see it that way at all.

Many people have concluded civil settlement = guilty. That is not always the case and is quite common with "celebrity" defendants who have earned or have the potential to earn large amounts of money.

Both Kobe Bryant and Ben Roethlisberger reached civil settlements in cases that never even went to court and they maintained that they were innocent.
 

MinnesotaBoiler99 said:
Based on what I read on Twitter and the blog updates today, Mbakwe clearly assaulted that woman in Miami. Am I the only one that sees it that way, or is my reading comprehension that bad?
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I don't think it's clear, but it's definitely fuzzy. Are you talking about the civil case and the victim's requests?
 

katze019 said:
How the *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# do you know? Here angle and belief is he never had anything to do with the assault of this lady.

If he only had the facebook incident and DWI it would be much less of an issue.
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Because i do. He reached out to a person who had a restraining order against him. He drove drunk. These are decisions he made not a vendetta from "the man". HE DID THESE THINGS! HE DID. GET IT?
 

Gold Vision said:
I don't think it's clear, but it's definitely fuzzy. Are you talking about the civil case and the victim's requests?
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Not sure exactly. All of the talk about "restitution for a broken jaw" sort of paints that picture. I'm no legal expert so I don't know all of the technicalities and loopholes to declare "innocence" while being guilty.
 

scher215 said:
I don't see it that way at all.

Many people have concluded civil settlement = guilty. That is not always the case and is quite common with "celebrity" defendants who have earned or have the potential to earn large amounts of money.

Both Kobe Bryant and Ben Roethlisberger reached civil settlements in cases that never even went to court and they maintained that they were innocent.
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If he's truly innocent, he should have no worries about being found guilty. Just my opinion.
 

OK, here is an example of how this *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# works, guilty or not guilty:

A friend of mine, disabilities of PTSD, chronic major depression, agoraphobic, anxiety disorder, victim of child abuse over and over, as a result totally unable to function in what some of us call a normal life.

Final recommendation for assistance to lead somewhat normal life, a therapeutic assistance dog, fully trained professionally, certified by the Americans with Disabilities regulations.

Landlord refused to allow because of "no pets" policy.

After about 2 years of litigation in which the Americans with Disabilities Act applied, along with the the State of Minnesota Human Rights Department, the guy settled out of court for over $25,000 in punitive damages, understanding that if this case had gone to court, it could have cost him hundreds of thousands or more.

Part of the settlement was: 1 sentence in the final papers was that... "He admits to no wrong doing."

Figure that *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# out.
 


Maybe it's not that simple

MinnesotaBoiler99 said:
If he's truly innocent, he should have no worries about being found guilty. Just my opinion.
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@Jen4rmTheBlock-
@JBBauer612 If you were in our family fighting the same case for years.. Paying over 10,000 when you have a child to feed, trying to get all you witnesses together, and a "no contest" plea came up which means NO guilt, maybe you'd take it too
 

Two years probation...just another redshirt. Welcome back Trevor!
 


Dr.Don said:
I don't blame Tubby for approaching his recruiting of future U of M players with egg shells for a sidewalk. If he had not ended up with TM, or signed RW, everyone would have been on his ass for not getting the best MN players here. He took a chance, got fisticuffed by both. So as a result, Tubby's first priority is character, and I *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#ing don't blame him. "Burn me once, shame on you, I will never give anyone of questionable character a chance to burn me and cause endless problems again, all so that people like Soupcan, Reussegut, et.al. can *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# me over with their never ending bitching and complaining and stupidity."

The Doc has so declared his support for Orlando "Tubby" Smith, and I don't give a damn what jamalo/tinyarch says.
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It's like supporting the captain of the Titanic...ya know he's off course, but as long as he misses the iceburgs... :p
 

9194Gophs said:
Just win baby!

Keep thinking GII.
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Not that GophersInIowa needs any of my help, but if you are trying to paint him in any negative light you are crazy. He is easily one of the most level-headed posters here. I highly doubt he wrote anything that you could call him out on.
 

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