University of Alabama COVID-19 outbreak not great news for college football season

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this may sound like hyperbole or sarcasm, but I'm serious:

Once the SEC season starts, the only way they stop playing is if a player dies from covid. anything short of that and they will keep playing. And, if a player does die, you can bet that SEC supporters will claim the cause of death was not covid-related.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
this may sound like hyperbole or sarcasm, but I'm serious:

Once the SEC season starts, the only way they stop playing is if a player dies from covid. anything short of that and they will keep playing. And, if a player does die, you can bet that SEC supporters will claim the cause of death was not covid-related.
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You're not too far off, I bet.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
this may sound like hyperbole or sarcasm, but I'm serious:

Once the SEC season starts, the only way they stop playing is if a player dies from covid. anything short of that and they will keep playing.
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Okay?... And that would be terribly wrong why? And really, any player that would die from COVID would more than likely, like a massive number of the others, have some significant underlying conditions contributing to situation.

Honest question (not necessarily for you, SON, just anyone):

What exactly is the worst case scenario for a conference moving forward with playing football? Positive test results, that are without question going to happen? It's a simple honest question; what exactly is the "worst case scenario" that would cause everyone in the country to scream "OMG!! What have we done?!?!!"
 

Players hold the power. School presidents, commissioners, ADs, and coaches, won’t stop the money train, even if players die from covid.

What would stop it: players refuse to play, after a player dies or gets seriously ill.

I would applaud that. Bigly
 

The ACC updated their protocol to match the SEC and Big 12


As the college football season draws closer, the Atlantic Coast Conference on Friday announced enhanced protocols to help combat the potential spread of COVID-19.

The updated protocols, which were recommended by the ACC’s Medical Advisory Group, include increased testing and additional cardiac evaluation standards for student-athletes who test positive for the virus.

Under the new protocols, ACC athletes that compete in football, field hockey, men’s and women’s soccer and volleyball are expected to be tested three times each week during the season, beginning with the week of the first competition. In football, one test must be performed the day before that week’s game and another within 48 hours of the conclusion of the game. The test that is administered the day before competition will be conducted by a third party that will be selected by the ACC office.

If a student-athlete does test positive for coronavirus, they must undergo a thorough cardiac evaluation that includes an electrocardiogram, a troponin test and an echocardiogram before returning to action.

dailyprogress.com

ACC announces enhanced COVID-19 protocols ahead of fall sports season

As the college football season draws closer, the Atlantic Coast Conference on Friday announced enhanced protocols to help combat the potential spread of COVID-19.
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Ogee Oglethorpe said:
What exactly is the worst case scenario...
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The worst case is that we continue to spread a deadly virus for largely political reasons, and 10’s of thousands of college students die, including my niece who just started her freshman year at Alabama.

Over 840,000 global deaths, and well over 180,000 US deaths, and you’re asking what’s the worst that could happen? Are you that obtuse?
 

MplsGopher said:
Players hold the power. School presidents, commissioners, ADs, and coaches, won’t stop the money train, even if players die from covid.

What would stop it: players refuse to play, after a player dies or gets seriously ill.

I would applaud that. Bigly
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The players seem tuned in to the known risks, and the known unknowns. I’m not sure about unknown unknowns. They have the right to walk out and some have.

Do you have any back of the napkin calculations on why you think there is a significant chance of death? Obviously its above zero, because NCAA athletes die of various causes every year. Exercise itself can lead to sudden cardiac death, as you know. I’m genuinely curious. There have been a total of 280 deaths thus far in the 15-24 age group. What are your assumptions for team attack rate, fatality, severe myocarditis complications in this age group? What proportion of known and presumed infections have occurred in this age group (Using the 6-20x multiplier based on state testing rates).
 

Unregistered User said:
The worst case is that we continue to spread a deadly virus for largely political reasons, and 10’s of thousands of college students die, including my niece who just started her freshman year at Alabama.

Over 840,000 global deaths, and well over 180,000 US deaths, and you’re asking what’s the worst that could happen? Are you that obtuse?
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This is fearmongering, folks. Wow.
 




Ogee Oglethorpe said:
Honest question (not necessarily for you, SON, just anyone):

What exactly is the worst case scenario for a conference moving forward with playing football? Positive test results, that are without question going to happen? It's a simple honest question; what exactly is the "worst case scenario" that would cause everyone in the country to scream "OMG!! What have we done?!?!!"
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Obviously, worst-case scenario is a player death. followed by lawsuits up the wazoo.

Short of that, players having to be hospitalized. Whatever you think about the medical aspects of this, if you have a few headlines of "College Football player hospitalized with covid-19 complications," that makes the schools look really bad. That is what the B1G was apparently afraid of. it would be on the chyron on ESPN non-stop.

Otherwise, if a team had a major outbreak that resulted in games having to be postponed or forfeited, that would grab a lot of attention - even if players' lives were not in jeopardy.

Or - a team boycott. if players decided they did not want to play due to concerns over the medical situation. again, lead story on ESPN 24/7.

bottom line- anything that makes people question the merit or value of playing games during a pandemic could make a conference look bad. as in "does Conference X think football is more important than players' health and safety?"
 


short ornery norwegian said:
Obviously, worst-case scenario is a player death. followed by lawsuits up the wazoo.

Short of that, players having to be hospitalized. Whatever you think about the medical aspects of this, if you have a few headlines of "College Football player hospitalized with covid-19 complications," that makes the schools look really bad. That is what the B1G was apparently afraid of. it would be on the chyron on ESPN non-stop.

Otherwise, if a team had a major outbreak that resulted in games having to be postponed or forfeited, that would grab a lot of attention - even if players' lives were not in jeopardy.

Or - a team boycott. if players decided they did not want to play due to concerns over the medical situation. again, lead story on ESPN 24/7.

bottom line- anything that makes people question the merit or value of playing games during a pandemic could make a conference look bad. as in "does Conference X think football is more important than players' health and safety?"
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These are the known unknowns. It’s reasonable to think COVID-19 will cause a higher rate of complications than influenza, mononucleosis, other infectious disease in this age group, but the numbers aren’t clear at this point.

I think some of this comes down to individual attitudes on acceptable risk and pre-existing ideas on exploitation. There is a huge spectrum. These are people with free agency.
 

Unregistered User said:
The worst case is that we continue to spread a deadly virus for largely political reasons, and 10’s of thousands of college students die, including my niece who just started her freshman year at Alabama.

Over 840,000 global deaths, and well over 180,000 US deaths, and you’re asking what’s the worst that could happen? Are you that obtuse?
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Stop with this bullshit. Do you actually know the total number of people who would have to die, for there to be 10s of thousands of dead college students? It’s virtually a mathematical improbability.
 



And just this minute, I find out that my niece is now quarantined at a hotel off campus at Alabama because her roommate just popped positive for Covid, so fuck you all very much.
 

Unregistered User said:
The worst case is that we continue to spread a deadly virus for largely political reasons, and 10’s of thousands of college students die, including my niece who just started her freshman year at Alabama.

Over 840,000 global deaths, and well over 180,000 US deaths, and you’re asking what’s the worst that could happen? Are you that obtuse?
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Sooooooo, you can guarantee that none of this will happen if we don't play football? That's GREAT!! Fantastic!!
 


Ogee Oglethorpe said:
What exactly is the worst case scenario for a conference moving forward with playing football? Positive test results, that are without question going to happen? It's a simple honest question; what exactly is the "worst case scenario" that would cause everyone in the country to scream "OMG!! What have we done?!?!!"
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I think it's statistically unlikely that anything extremely serious would happen to a player (although possible) so I'm going to not go with the obvious answer there. Alternatively, the worst thing for a conference is if someone like Nick Saban, Ed Orgeron, Dabo Swinnery, Mac Brown, got sick during the season and ended up in the hospital long-term/dead. Obviously they're adults doing their jobs just like you and I, but the negative public attention this would bring would be astronomical.

I honestly think the players have more options when it comes to playing/not playing than the coaches do and I don't think the threat to the older coaches is talked about enough since they're paid employees. I just don't think they have much of a choice at all and I can't recall a single story of a coach "opting out".
 

Unregistered User said:
And just this minute, I find out that my niece is now quarantined at a hotel off campus at Alabama because her roommate just popped positive for Covid, so fuck you all very much.
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Is your niece a nose tackle? I hear linemen are more likely to get Covid...
 

Unregistered User said:
And just this minute, I find out that my niece is now quarantined at a hotel off campus at Alabama because her roommate just popped positive for Covid, so fuck you all very much.
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For people under 45, if they get COVID, they still have more risk of dying in a car accident this year than dying from COVID. You never know when the odds don’t work out for any one person, but the odds are still extremely good.

I’ll keep your niece in my prayers!
 

PoockItInfor6 said:
For people under 45, if they get COVID, they still have more risk of dying in a car accident this year than dying from COVID. You never know when the odds don’t work out for any one person, but the odds are still extremely good.

I’ll keep your niece in my prayers!
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Covid will be the 2nd or 3rd leading cause of death in 2020. Car accidents pretty far down the list; especially if a) you wear a seatbelt; and b) you are drug free. Besides that, who wants to get sick as f$ck for two weeks?
 

John Galt said:
And just this minute, I find out that my niece is now quarantined at a hotel off campus at Alabama because her roommate just popped positive for Covid, so fuck you all very much.
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Sorry to hear that. Hope it works out alright.
 

Block M said:
Covid will be the 2nd or 3rd leading cause of death in 2020. Car accidents pretty far down the list; especially if a) you wear a seatbelt; and b) you are drug free. Besides that, who wants to get sick as f$ck for two weeks?
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Edit - Don’t want to make this board more political than it already is.
 

Pompous Elitist said:
The ACC updated their protocol to match the SEC and Big 12


As the college football season draws closer, the Atlantic Coast Conference on Friday announced enhanced protocols to help combat the potential spread of COVID-19.

The updated protocols, which were recommended by the ACC’s Medical Advisory Group, include increased testing and additional cardiac evaluation standards for student-athletes who test positive for the virus.

Under the new protocols, ACC athletes that compete in football, field hockey, men’s and women’s soccer and volleyball are expected to be tested three times each week during the season, beginning with the week of the first competition. In football, one test must be performed the day before that week’s game and another within 48 hours of the conclusion of the game. The test that is administered the day before competition will be conducted by a third party that will be selected by the ACC office.

If a student-athlete does test positive for coronavirus, they must undergo a thorough cardiac evaluation that includes an electrocardiogram, a troponin test and an echocardiogram before returning to action.

dailyprogress.com

ACC announces enhanced COVID-19 protocols ahead of fall sports season

As the college football season draws closer, the Atlantic Coast Conference on Friday announced enhanced protocols to help combat the potential spread of COVID-19.
dailyprogress.com dailyprogress.com
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When are they going to "return to action"?
That is the crux of the matter.
According to the science they should be in quarantine for ten to fourteen days to decrease the risk of infecting others.
If that is not mandatory why test at all?
Are players with positive tests going to be named or will the HC keep the results in a desk drawer?
 




PitinoFan said:
WTF...

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">um, NO. this is not what the article says. <br>These people are not positive *at the time* they are tested, but they were before and already passed it on. we&#39;re just trying to lock the barn long after the horse is gone, but the number of horses is right on still <a href="https://t.co/eJHcFXLUx4">https://t.co/eJHcFXLUx4</a></p>&mdash; Apoorva Mandavilli (@apoorva_nyc) <a href="">August 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

PitinoFan said:
WTF...

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Well duh ... if the test doesn't get back fast enough, then the person will have recovered by then. :rolleyes: That of course doesn't mean they were never contagious and never spread it to other people during that period.
 
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Block M said:
Not much to be done about it in the short term. Rapid tests are probably the way to go once they are more widely available.
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And assuming they are proven to be accurate, and not just a snake oil cash grab. (y)
 


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