Trey Potts - UPDATED With Statement from the U

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Jeebus! You might as well throw in Jeebus with blood-letting, leeches, hippos, Dances With Wolves, bludgeoning rabbits, scurvy, etc... Did we get everything covered? The natives are restless.

Trey, it is all your fault!

 
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Face The Facts said:
HIPAA can apply to any institution that has access to medical information.
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I don't think this is correct. But it may depend what you mean by "institution".

This blurb relates to the NFL, but I don't see why it shouldn't apply exactly the same to school athletic depts:

“Usually the team physician is not covered by HIPAA as it relates to the team,” said Lynn Sessions, a partner at BakerHostetler and a healthcare privacy law expert for more than 25 years. “That would essentially be within an employment context that the team physician is providing care to the player, so as it relates to the employer that is a different kind of relationship.”

Athletes though, agree to share health information with their employer (even if the athlete visits an independent medical professional) when they sign a contract with a team. The reason we know so much about these athletes’ injuries on any given day is that once the information is provided to the organization through the athlete, or through the team physician, the organization is free to publicize it. Pro sports teams are not covered entities under HIPAA. Rather, they are merely considered employers.
 




restovich said:
This thread is confusing. I keep clicking on it, hoping to get an update on how Trey Potts is doing.
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What's confusing about it?

Clearly, Potts was taken to the hospital to have a mystery medieval ailment cured by pre-science leeching (different than post-science leeching) under the supervision of a grammatically inept Hippo while Coyle keeps everything under wraps because Trey is, well, a human being with rights/feelings/family/etc.
 

hungan1 said:
Jeebus! You might as well throw Jeebus with blood-letting, leeches, hippos, Dances With Wolves, bludgeoning rabbits, scurvy, etc... Did we get everything covered? The natives are restless.

Trey, it is all your fault!

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He may be now (as we speak) on his way to the island of Molokai. 😷
 




MplsGopher said:
I don't think this is correct. But it may depend what you mean by "institution".

This blurb relates to the NFL, but I don't see why it shouldn't apply exactly the same to school athletic depts:

“Usually the team physician is not covered by HIPAA as it relates to the team,” said Lynn Sessions, a partner at BakerHostetler and a healthcare privacy law expert for more than 25 years. “That would essentially be within an employment context that the team physician is providing care to the player, so as it relates to the employer that is a different kind of relationship.”

Athletes though, agree to share health information with their employer (even if the athlete visits an independent medical professional) when they sign a contract with a team. The reason we know so much about these athletes’ injuries on any given day is that once the information is provided to the organization through the athlete, or through the team physician, the organization is free to publicize it. Pro sports teams are not covered entities under HIPAA. Rather, they are merely considered employers.
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The NFL wouldn't apply because their collective bargaining agreement is like a whole set of laws that players need to abide by regardless of what their typical god given rights are.

But yes, I don't work in healthcare, and HIPAA laws apply to us in the case a client has information that is health related, or we accidentally come across this information.

Say you walk by a hospital and there is a file on the ground that you happen to find that says "Treyson Potts" and you go public with it, or provide it to a newspaper, etc., you and whoever you share it with can and should get sued, as well as the institution who "lost" that information.

As an individual you are not acting in the correct manner in how to report private data, and any newspaper should likely not accept it from you due to their risk they'd expose themselves to.
 

NYtoWItoMN said:
What's confusing about it?

Clearly, Potts was taken to the hospital to have a mystery medieval ailment cured by pre-science leeching (different than post-science leeching) under the supervision of a grammatically inept Hippo while Coyle keeps everything under wraps because Trey is, well, a human being with rights/feelings/family/etc.
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1 more thing. We're all related to apes also, right?
 

NYtoWItoMN said:
What's confusing about it?

Clearly, Potts was taken to the hospital to have a mystery medieval ailment cured by pre-science leeching (different than post-science leeching) under the supervision of a grammatically inept Hippo while Coyle keeps everything under wraps because Trey is, well, a human being with rights/feelings/family/etc.
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You forgot to add a bunch of people think this is all an elaborate hoax.
 

restovich said:
This thread is confusing. I keep clicking on it, hoping to get an update on how Trey Potts is doing.
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`This thread is a circle jerk... When there's real news I'd imagine someone will post in a new thread..
 








Ogee Oglethorpe said:
I'm not sure you can say that nowadays without serious repercussions?
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I hear you. That's why I said "We." As in we are all the same species. Was in no way meant to be worse than a joke, and nothing more than a joke.

Edit: Honestly I will shut up about my jokes on this thread. This is about Potts and he needs all the good thoughts going his way.
 




Face The Facts said:
The NFL wouldn't apply because their collective bargaining agreement is like a whole set of laws that players need to abide by regardless of what their typical god given rights are.

But yes, I don't work in healthcare, and HIPAA laws apply to us in the case a client has information that is health related, or we accidentally come across this information.

Say you walk by a hospital and there is a file on the ground that you happen to find that says "Treyson Potts" and you go public with it, or provide it to a newspaper, etc., you and whoever you share it with can and should get sued, as well as the institution who "lost" that information.

As an individual you are not acting in the correct manner in how to report private data, and any newspaper should likely not accept it from you due to their risk they'd expose themselves to.
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Bolded being the key here .... so again, the legal distinction is that you've provided an actual, protected document. Sure, in that case, it makes sense.

No one is expecting Coyle to publish, or even stand there at the microphone, and say "here is the document from the hospital, now let me read off exactly what the doctor's notes are".


I'm saying, if the doc came over to Coyle and the team physician and said "Trey has suffered a _________, and will need to rest for probably the next 4-5 weeks". HIPAA does not legally prevent Coyle or the team physician from saying that to the media, for example. If they really wanted to be doubly careful, then they could just not say who the source of the info is, and even put it in their own words (not the exact words of the doc).


But, again, there could be other laws or U rules. And/or, simply, the are choosing to not share it, merely of their own personal decision.
 

Face The Facts said:
The NFL wouldn't apply because their collective bargaining agreement is like a whole set of laws that players need to abide by regardless of what their typical god given rights are.

But yes, I don't work in healthcare, and HIPAA laws apply to us in the case a client has information that is health related, or we accidentally come across this information.

Say you walk by a hospital and there is a file on the ground that you happen to find that says "Treyson Potts" and you go public with it, or provide it to a newspaper, etc., you and whoever you share it with can and should get sued, as well as the institution who "lost" that information.

As an individual you are not acting in the correct manner in how to report private data, and any newspaper should likely not accept it from you due to their risk they'd expose themselves to.
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This isn’t true. At least not with HIPAA. If the hospital lost a patient file - that’s a possible breach under HIPAA but passerby are not in anyway covered by HIPAA.
 

Torres9 said:
This isn’t true. At least not with HIPAA. If the hospital lost a patient file - that’s a possible breach under HIPAA but passerby are not in anyway covered by HIPAA.
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Yeah legally HIPAA seems pretty dang narrow. But policy wise any organization probably has their own policies and the story is "because HIPAA" ... and yet I'm not convinced that means HIPAA actually applies.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
Yeah legally HIPAA seems pretty dang narrow. But policy wise any organization probably has their own policies and the story is "because HIPAA" ... and yet I'm not convinced that means HIPAA actually applies.
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This.

It's just an excuse.
 



MplsGopher said:
This.

It's just an excuse.
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Since everyone is assuming, how about this assumption. Think of the shit storm that would be caused if Potts had a blood clot that formed in his lungs due to receiving the Covid-19 vaccination? That would be a condition that would definitely cause silence at ground zero. I can tell from a past experience that once a blood clot is found in the lungs you will never see a medical team move faster at treatment in your life. It would explain the heavy commotion of getting him in and out of the tent that has been described in the earlier posts of this thread. Oh, how politics have ruined our way of life!
 

BuiltFordTough said:
Since everyone is assuming, how about this assumption. Think of the shit storm that would be caused if Potts had a blood clot that formed in his lungs due to receiving the Covid-19 vaccination? That would be a condition that would definitely cause silence at ground zero. I can tell from a past experience that once a blood clot is found in the lungs you will never see a medical team move faster at treatment in your life. It would explain the heavy commotion of getting him in and out of the tent that has been described in the earlier posts of this thread. Oh, how politics have ruined our way of life!
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Going to go out on a limb and say that assuming he is one of the high number of players that has been vaccinated, it didn't just happen so I would put the odds of the vaccination having anything to do with what happened with Potts on Saturday at less than zero.

Not sure why you felt the need to try and take this thread down this path but it is already pretty worthless at this point so may as well make it political.
 

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