Trey Potts - UPDATED With Statement from the U

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Bob_Loblaw said:
Everyone should know that any and all reckless speculation is allowed in this thread unless it contradicts St. Fauci.
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There’s just a little bit of a difference between us on a gopherhole forum speculating and a grifter with many thousands of followers and no ties to Minnesota trying to take advantage of the unknown situation for his own personal gain. Berenson doesn’t know anything more about this topic than the wall in my living room. It was pointless to bring anything he says into the conversation.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Then you should look harder, someone pointed at something that might blame the vaccine and the response was USAF hissyfit and somoene nominating another one for worst post in the thread. You're right, they're reactions probably had nothing to do with politics.

The whole thread is filled with outlandish theories about his potential injury, those posts received a uniquely specific reaction, I wonder why?!?!
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Come on. You're really stretching it here. Every time a player gets injured in a game fans speculate on what the injury was until they find out what happened. What they don't typically do is quote a political activist with no connection to the team who claims the in-game injury was a result of something that occurred outside of playing conditions. All the while knowing it is an incendiary political topic.

Be honest and admit that Les' post belonged on the Off-topic Boards.
 

Six to Eight said:
Come on. You're really stretching it here. Every time a player gets injured in a game fans speculate on what the injury was until they find out what happened. What they don't typically do is quote a political activist with no connection to the team who claims the in-game injury was a result of something that occurred outside of playing conditions. All the while knowing it is an incendiary political topic.

Be honest and admit that Les' post belonged on the Off-topic Boards.
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Sure. I think his post was probably political as was the reaction to the post. I merely pointed out that the REACTION to his post was equally as political.

As to belonging on the Off-Topic Board, I don't know. I'm fine with threads morphing into whatever they evolve/devolve into.
 




GophersInIowa said:
There’s just a little bit of a difference between us on a gopherhole forum speculating and a grifter with many thousands of followers and no ties to Minnesota trying to take advantage of the unknown situation for his own personal gain. Berenson doesn’t know anything more about this topic than the wall in my living room. It was pointless to bring anything he says into the conversation.
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Yeah, I have no doubt that Berenson's post was politically motivated as were the hyperbolic reactions to someone posting it. The thread is stock full of nonsense - some of it jokes, some of it horrible guesses, but almost none of it was met with the same reaction.

As to your issue with this coming from a non-Gopher fan, well, when the Gopher fan gave his opinion that it might be vaccine related, he was met with the same vitriol. So it has nothing to do with the fact that it is coming from the outside. The reaction to posts that question anything with the vaccine was the same.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Yeah, I have no doubt that Berenson's post was politically motivated as were the hyperbolic reactions to someone posting it. The thread is stock full of nonsense - some of it jokes, some of it horrible guesses, but almost none of it was met with the same reaction.

As to your issue with this coming from a non-Gopher fan, well, when the Gopher fan gave his opinion that it might be vaccine related, he was met with the same vitriol. So it has nothing to do with the fact that it is coming from the outside. The reaction to posts that question anything with the vaccine was the same.
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Take it to the OTB, hack.
 

USAF said:
Take it to the OTB, hack.
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It's almost like you're exceptionally touchy on this particular subject.

The best thing about arguing with the categorically stupid, they'll prove your point for you. Thanks big guy!
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Yeah, I have no doubt that Berenson's post was politically motivated as were the hyperbolic reactions to someone posting it. The thread is stock full of nonsense - some of it jokes, some of it horrible guesses, but almost none of it was met with the same reaction.
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Because the other speculation is just attempts to try to understand what might have happened. Bringing up the vaccine is clearly motivated by politics. It could be vaccine related but the chances are extremely small.
 



GophersInIowa said:
Because the other speculation is just attempts to try to understand what might have happened. Bringing up the vaccine is clearly motivated by politics. It could be vaccine related but the chances are extremely small.
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Okay, now you're moving the goal posts. I thought it mattered because the person came from the outside? Now, it matters because the person, you believe had political motivations? Sure, lets assume they did, they were politically motivated to be skeptical of the vaccine and post it here as a possible issue with Trey Potts. So what? The reactions to those posts were EQUALLY as political. That was my point. The vitriol in the reactions to those posts comes from politics.

As to your point about the Gopher fan being obviously politically, you realize there are tons of people who don't get vaccinated who aren't political type people? I'm fully vaccinated, I wear masks, etc., but the idea that the only people who are skeptical about the vaccination as being Trumpers is pretty off. You think Kyrie Irving loved Trump? Andrew Wiggins?

Again, I probably disagree with Kyrie Irving on every single topic, including the vaccine. I just don't feel the need to act like I skinned my knees if anyone posts something that might not jive with the orthodoxy or my personal opinions.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Okay, now you're moving the goal posts. I thought it mattered because the person came from the outside? Now, it matters because the person, you believe had political motivations? Sure, lets assume they did, they were politically motivated to be skeptical of the vaccine and post it here as a possible issue with Trey Potts. So what? The reactions to those posts were EQUALLY as political. That was my point. The vitriol in the reactions to those posts comes from politics.

As to your point about the Gopher fan being obviously politically, you realize there are tons of people who don't get vaccinated who aren't political type people? I'm fully vaccinated, I wear masks, etc., but the idea that the only people who are skeptical about the vaccination as being Trumpers is pretty off. You think Kyrie Irving loved Trump? Andrew Wiggins?

Again, I probably disagree with Kyrie Irving on every single topic, including the vaccine. I just don't feel the need to act like I skinned my knees if anyone posts something that might not jive with the orthodoxy or my personal opinions.
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Your post that I originally responded to didn’t mention other posts in this thread. I didn’t know you were also referring to them as well. I assumed you were only responding to the Berenson nonsense. To me, yeah it matters when we start bringing in a con artist like that into the conversation. Since I was wrong, I didn’t respond to that part of your response.

A person doesn’t have to be political to be influenced by politics. I have no idea why you brought up Trump when I clearly didn’t.
 

XMan said:
I nominate this for worst post of the year.
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I un-nominate this as the worst post of the year.
Because it's happened.
Vaccine injuries are a very real and sometimes dangerous thing. And this comes from a former soldier and firefighter vaccinated against just about everything known to mankind, because it was mandated...
 




GoldenRodents said:
If you are young and healthy, get COVID, and recover like 99.99% of the young and healthy do, both you and the world will be better protected.
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Yes, and if you get vaccinated you will likely have a less severe health outcome when you get infected.
Gopher028 said:
I un-nominate this as the worst post of the year.
Because it's happened.
Vaccine injuries are a very real and sometimes dangerous thing. And this comes from a former soldier and firefighter vaccinated against just about everything known to mankind, because it was mandated...
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Yes, vaccine injuries are real and an extremely rare occurrence. I have also been vaccinated against everything on earth including rabies, multiple times, for work-related exposures. Which is not one of the vaccines anyone really wants to get. Let's all keep in mind the magnitude of how many people all are being vaccinated in this global event. The mRNA vaccines are the safest we've had since our grandparents first put out there arms (without knowing anything about about what evil scientists were putting in the vaccines that they themselves took).
 

Six to Eight said:
Yes, and if you get vaccinated you will likely have a less severe health outcome when you get infected.

Yes, vaccine injuries are real and an extremely rare occurrence. I have also been vaccinated against everything on earth including rabies, multiple times, for work-related exposures. Which is not one of the vaccines anyone really wants to get. Let's all keep in mind the magnitude of how many people all are being vaccinated in this global event. The mRNA vaccines are the safest we've had since our grandparents first put out there arms (without knowing anything about about what evil scientists were putting in the vaccines that they themselves took).
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"Likely"

Depending on your age and health status bracket.
Gopher football team was heavily effected by covid last year, how many have had any short or long term issues with contracting the equivalent with the common cold?
Zero, because none were morbidly obese or elderly and infirm. That's who this virus gets.
Minus the .0001%
 


Gopher028 said:
"Likely"

Depending on your age and health status bracket.
Gopher football team was heavily effected by covid last year, how many have had any short or long term issues with contracting the equivalent with the common cold?
Zero, because none were morbidly obese or elderly and infirm. That's who this virus gets.
Minus the .0001%
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Actually, you don't know any of that about the Gopher football team. We don't even know about ankle sprains anymore. Sorry to digress.

A small proportion of healthy people are people are seriously impacted by Covid-19, most aren't. Even fewer vaccinated are. The efficacy of the vaccines is absolutely a fluid with an evolving virus. But the mRNA vaccines are safe, and safer than taking your chances with naive exposure. Fact. The whole "we don't know about these vaccines" argument is tough to hear as someone who works in the field. Our country and the world have been benefiting from vaccines for generations and we have some of the safest in history now. Only the fringes questioned vaccines before the recent politicization of everything.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Okay, now you're moving the goal posts. I thought it mattered because the person came from the outside? Now, it matters because the person, you believe had political motivations? Sure, lets assume they did, they were politically motivated to be skeptical of the vaccine and post it here as a possible issue with Trey Potts. So what? The reactions to those posts were EQUALLY as political. That was my point. The vitriol in the reactions to those posts comes from politics.

As to your point about the Gopher fan being obviously politically, you realize there are tons of people who don't get vaccinated who aren't political type people? I'm fully vaccinated, I wear masks, etc., but the idea that the only people who are skeptical about the vaccination as being Trumpers is pretty off. You think Kyrie Irving loved Trump? Andrew Wiggins?

Again, I probably disagree with Kyrie Irving on every single topic, including the vaccine. I just don't feel the need to act like I skinned my knees if anyone posts something that might not jive with the orthodoxy or my personal opinions.
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Kryie good for him on some things and not others. How does our running game beat Wisconsin d line to win west toward east and Indy?
 

GophersInIowa said:
There’s just a little bit of a difference between us on a gopherhole forum speculating and a grifter with many thousands of followers and no ties to Minnesota trying to take advantage of the unknown situation for his own personal gain. Berenson doesn’t know anything more about this topic than the wall in my living room. It was pointless to bring anything he says into the conversation.
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@GophersInIowa It's going to be tough to walk back your chest thumping, but you might want to wait until all the numbers come in...

www.newsmax.com

James Maughan: Sweden's Covid Success Ignored by Media

Sweden, in the final analysis, apparently was correct.
www.newsmax.com www.newsmax.com
 


noamfromm said:
Is Trey Potts Swedish?
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Are you under the impression this is still a Trey Potts thread? It stopped being that a while ago. Now it is just another place for people to argue about Covid....because you know that hasn't corrupted enough threads on the board over the last year and a half.
 

It is time to lay to rest this runaway train. Give privacy to Trey Potts and his family.
 


Dakota2 said:
No, he is not. The poster I responded to is a moron.
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Why because he called a spade a spade? Les knew what he was doing. He is quoting someone who knows nothing, and who has a schtick of being a COVID denier because of politics. Then, because he knows the reaction it will get (and obviously wants it) he tries and make it look good by saying "dont turn this political" even after he already did. This is no better than when people say "no offense" before completely insulting you like that somehow that mitigates it.

Like this "No offense, but the only d-bag here is Les".

Look you can believe whatever you want, but dont throw your bile on here.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Everyone should know that any and all reckless speculation is allowed in this thread unless it contradicts St. Fauci.
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Do you have any evidence that this is COVID related? If you do I will listen. Alex Berenson doesn't and Les knows that.

Unless there is some proof take the COVID crap to the OT board.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Then you should look harder, someone pointed at something that might blame the vaccine and the response was USAF hissyfit and somoene nominating another one for worst post in the thread. You're right, they're reactions probably had nothing to do with politics.

The whole thread is filled with outlandish theories about his potential injury, those posts received a uniquely specific reaction, I wonder why?!?!?
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Because he didn't cite anything but a guy who makes his bones on BS. Maybe if he posted a doctor saying it but not some clown who probably never even saw Potts play let alone know why he is out.

Politics doesn't belong here Left, Right or Center. It wasnt here until Les decided to award himself the Golden D-bag award.

FWIW, and because I am seeming argumentative towards you personally, you and I obviously have different beliefs but I have always enjoyed reading your posts (non political since I tend to avoid that around here) and hold no ill will towards you. I find your sports takes are often very close to mine so I usually seek out your opinions on topics around here. I feel it is important I say that to people more often these days.

I don't want my politics around here either. It used to be politics was almost never discussed. It just doesn't belong here and is rather insulting to Potts imho.
 
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Gopher028 said:
"Likely"

Depending on your age and health status bracket.
Gopher football team was heavily effected by covid last year, how many have had any short or long term issues with contracting the equivalent with the common cold?
Zero, because none were morbidly obese or elderly and infirm. That's who this virus gets.
Minus the .0001%
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So evidentally you don't know all the people I know who have died and did not have any age/health issues that aggravated the virus' effects.
 

Dave H said:
Do you have any evidence that this is COVID related? If you do I will listen. Alex Berenson doesn't and Les knows that.

Unless there is some proof take the COVID crap to the OT board.
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LOL. Nope. I don't believe it is at all COVID related. I think it is probably the least likely issues of ALL of the insane possible Gopherhole diagnoses. I was merely pointing out that the reaction to that outlandish bit of reckless speculation is vitriol (see your post).

The reckless speculation on this thread is pouring out the sides. Yet you, and others, have only had a drastic reaction to one kind of reckless speculation. You've only demanded proof for 1 kind of reckless speculation. You've only talked about how insulting it is to Trey Potts with 1 specific kind of reckless speculation. Why do you think that might be?

I agree, Les is being political. But no offense, so are you. You're reaction is purely political. I didn't post the article. I didn't bring up vaccine related issues as a possibility. I merely pointed and laughed at the hypocrisy of people getting mad at Les for bringing up a unlikely diagnosis on THIS thread. Also, Les wasn't the first Gopher fan to bring up the vaccine, that person was also met with the same kind of weeping and gnashing of teeth from the people who politically oppose anything counter their orthodoxy.
 

I am not making anything political. Calling Les a d-bag isn't about his politics, it is about his bs source thathas no link to Potts or the U of M. I could give two craps how he votes or what he thinks about COVID or what you think about it for that matter. If I want to know that I will go to the off topic board or send you a PM.

And you might want to go back to the beginning of this thread including right after the game. People who were there were talking about what they personally saw and other posters were basically accusing them of lying. (or at least insinuating it) That had nothing to do with politics that just had to do with some people are going to argue no matter what without any evidence. I didn't read the thread until it was confirmed he was taken to the hospital otherwise I would have been saying the same damned thing I said about Les. I trust the people in the know (or who saw) not randoms who are just guessing.

But lets not pretend what Les did and what everyone else is doing are the same. You are smarter than that. You and I speculating whether he broke his neck or had an alien burst out of his chest is not going to spark any sort of reaction. It is thinking out loud and it has no real consequence. We aren't doing it to troll (unless we are doing something tongue in cheek) we are just saying what we think or maybe heard. As you admit Les was trying to get the very reaction he got because he is being a prick. I speak only for myself but that has nothing to do with his politics or his COVID takes (there are plenty of posters I am more aligned with around here who are just as big of pricks if not worse and you will never see me defend them) its about his incessant need to burn things to the ground then act like a brat when called out for it. It isn't like he only does it about political discussions...its part of his schtick. It is just stupid and childish and it ruins the thread for people who might be reading it trying to see if new info came out. (which is why I clicked on it personally)

It isn't on topic nor would it be if someone started quoting Doctor Fauci. This is not relevant and it is just there to cause a fight. Aren't people sick of the fighting yet? Can we have one place where we can all just discuss stuff and not feel the need to inject politics into it?
 

Dave H said:
I am not making anything political. Calling Les a d-bag isn't about his politics, it is about his bs source thathas no link to Potts or the U of M. I could give two craps how he votes or what he thinks about COVID or what you think about it for that matter. If I want to know that I will go to the off topic board or send you a PM.

And you might want to go back to the beginning of this thread including right after the game. People who were there were talking about what they personally saw and other posters were basically accusing them of lying. (or at least insinuating it) That had nothing to do with politics that just had to do with some people are going to argue no matter what without any evidence. I didn't read the thread until it was confirmed he was taken to the hospital otherwise I would have been saying the same damned thing I said about Les. I trust the people in the know (or who saw) not randoms who are just guessing.

But lets not pretend what Les did and what everyone else is doing are the same. You are smarter than that. You and I speculating whether he broke his neck or had an alien burst out of his chest is not going to spark any sort of reaction. It is thinking out loud and it has no real consequence. We aren't doing it to troll (unless we are doing something tongue in cheek) we are just saying what we think or maybe heard. As you admit Les was trying to get the very reaction he got because he is being a prick. I speak only for myself but that has nothing to do with his politics or his COVID takes (there are plenty of posters I am more aligned with around here who are just as big of pricks if not worse and you will never see me defend them) its about his incessant need to burn things to the ground then act like a brat when called out for it. It isn't like he only does it about political discussions...its part of his schtick. It is just stupid and childish and it ruins the thread for people who might be reading it trying to see if new info came out. (which is why I clicked on it personally)

It isn't on topic nor would it be if someone started quoting Doctor Fauci. This is not relevant and it is just there to cause a fight. Aren't people sick of the fighting yet? Can we have one place where we can all just discuss stuff and not feel the need to inject politics into it?
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(1) You clearly do care about what he talks about. In a thread full of outlandish hunches, you seem to be particularly impacted by 1.

(2) Yeah, I was here from the beginning of the thread. I was defending those people and even gave a report of my friend who saw the same thing. It was also insinuated I was lying (by many of the same folks crying about the vaccine hunch). Those "randoms" were simply reporting what they saw and after your recent posts, I have no doubt you would have thrown a fit asking them to not talk about it. It seems pretty on-brand for you.

(3) I don't believe your reaction has nothing to do with politics. I could be wrong, I don't know you. Maybe it's a coincidence that the 1 piece of reckless speculation that set you off has political undertones. I don't think that's likely. I also don't think it's likely that Les posted that article with zero political undercurrents. Again, it's possible, but I'd say it's equally as likely that your reaction was apolitcal as Les's post being apolitical.

(4) As far as Les knowing the reaction, of course he did. Why give it to him? There are tons of other insane ideas on this thread that the peanut gallery didn't have a hissy fit about, why melt over this one?

(5) Do you see the irony in asking if people are sick of fighting? You had a particularly strong reaction to a very specific message. He trolled and it worked because you are NOT sick of arguing. I know you don't think your reaction was political but it sure seems like it is.
 

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