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dpodoll68 said:
As do I. Where have I stated otherwise? Good thing that the Gophers didn't finish in 9th place.
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9th place. Three years in a row under Tubby. Ouch.

23-13 > 14-18

Why don't you get petty and anal about this one, DPO?
 





dpodoll68 said:
If it's petty and anal to care what the actual facts are, instead of the nonsense lies that you've made up - guilty as charged.
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Give it up dpdoll68. Some have the opinion that we should be optimistic about the new staff and our prospects under it. Others have the opinion that Tubby would have been better for our future. Obviously that's you and that stinks for you, because he is currently nursing an ailing Texas Tech squad while Pitino is our coach. These are the facts.
 

bga1 said:
Give it up dpdoll68. Some have the opinion that we should be optimistic about the new staff and our prospects under it. Others have the opinion that Tubby would have been better for our future. Obviously that's you and that stinks for you, because he is currently nursing an ailing Texas Tech squad while Pitino is our coach. These are the facts.
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Excellent summation. Another fact: I have resisted the strong urge to call him DopeyDoll, but not sure how much longer I can hold out. But if I did that (instead of just pondering it), that would be name-calling. So I won't do that.

9th place.
 

bga1 said:
Some have the opinion that we should be optimistic about the new staff and our prospects under it.
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I am in that group as well. Being optimistic doesn't give anyone license to completely make sh1t up.

GopherJake said:
Excellent summation. Another fact: I have resisted the strong urge to call him DopeyDoll, but not sure how much longer I can hold out. But if I did that (instead of just pondering it), that would be name-calling. So I won't do that.

9th place.
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Your buddy Can'tGet has been calling me that (oh-so-clever) nickname for a while. Is that how far you've fallen, Jake? Is that the company you wish to keep? I guess so - he likes to make up "facts" just like you do.
 

dpodoll68 said:
Your buddy Can'tGet has been calling me that (oh-so-clever) nickname for a while. Is that how far you've fallen, Jake? Is that the company you wish to keep? I guess so - he likes to make up "facts" just like you do.
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I never called you that, DPO, so what's the problem? Just like you never said <<someone>> above wasn't bright. Tell me about all the facts I've made up, please. Wait, tell me how it is even possible to make up a fact. Now you aren't even making sense.

23-13 > 14-18

(This is not a math equation, DPO. It's a point.)
 



GopherJake said:
I never called you that, DPO, so what's the problem? Just like you never said <<someone>> above wasn't bright. Tell me about all the facts I've made up, please. Wait, tell me how it is even possible to make up a fact. Now you aren't even making sense.

23-13 > 14-18

(This is not a math equation, DPO. It's a point.)
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One does not simply argue with crazy.
 

GopherJake said:
Excellent summation. Another fact: I have resisted the strong urge to call him DopeyDoll, but not sure how much longer I can hold out. But if I did that (instead of just pondering it), that would be name-calling. So I won't do that.

9th place.
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:)

What color ribbon do we get for 9th these days?
 






dpodoll68 said:
If it's petty and anal to care what the actual facts are, instead of the nonsense lies that you've made up - guilty as charged.
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You know what is so sad about these people? Not even a single one of them asked how the heck Oto's career-ending injury was fixed so fast? Expect more lies MN fans. It is just the begining. Some of you may like it. It is becasue you are not old enough to know the situation during the Clem era.
 

The-Real-Truth said:
You know what is so sad about these people? Not even a single one of them asked how the heck Oto's career-ending injury was fixed so fast? Expect more lies MN fans. It is just the begining. Some of you may like it. It is becasue you are not old enough to know the situation during the Clem era.
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Who said it was fixed?
 

mnsports1 said:
I get the feeling that I'm going to check back in later and the thread will be... a). locked, or 2). be suddenly back to being two pages long.
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lol. Deposit reminds me of me on the OT board. Some of us should have been banned years ago. Then again, we are just about in the off season and we might as well take the gloves off now.
 


The-Real-Truth said:
You know what is so sad about these people? Not even a single one of them asked how the heck Oto's career-ending injury was fixed so fast? Expect more lies MN fans. It is just the begining. Some of you may like it. It is becasue you are not old enough to know the situation during the Clem era.
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Who are "these people"?

Also, I would love to get your take on Flight370. Did it fly into a blackhole or did the aliens take it?
 



The-Real-Truth said:
These people: Richard-lovers???
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We Dick lovers will only love Dick as long as he can figure out within 6 years how to do the impossible: Finish over .500 in the Big Ten. Tall order, I know. Very tight time frame. We would never have had that type of expectation for Tubby.
 

The-Real-Truth said:
Please define career-ending.
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Stoping someone from having a career in said sport, which Oto never had the potential to have in the first place....

Honestly though, my only explanation would be that its a degenerative type issue with his knee where it swells up during activity. With decreased or completely eliminated practice time his knee might be in better condition yesterday and decided to play on it. He is likely out of the question for Thursday in this line of thinking. So if he plays on Thursday, I have no clue how the hell we could call his injury career ending if he is able to play on one nights rest 32 minutes and then play again.
 

The-Real-Truth said:
These people: Richard-lovers???
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If Richard had a bunch of great recruits lined-up for Oto's scholarship, maybe I'd think Richard forced Oto's hand a bit to not come back next year. Oto isn't great, but I think he would be a better option than a spring recruit that will likely be a freshman next year. Not sure where the conspiracy theory comes in.
 

The-Real-Truth said:
You know what is so sad about these people? Not even a single one of them asked how the heck Oto's career-ending injury was fixed so fast? Expect more lies MN fans. It is just the begining. Some of you may like it. It is becasue you are not old enough to know the situation during the Clem era.
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He has a degenerative condition. He can play on it but it's not good for him and it probably is painful. He feels so forced out that he is taking a position on Pitino's staff next year. Sounds like there might be bad blood between the two of them. ;)
 


The-Real-Truth said:
Please define career-ending.
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Maybe this sheds a little light: http://www.twincities.com/gophers/ci_25476068/gophers-basketball-elliott-eliason-questionable-nit-final

Junior forward Oto Osenieks, who only played less than a minute in the previous eight games, had a career high 32 minutes Tuesday night despite a degenerative knee injury that will require career-ending surgery after the season.

Pitino said Oseniks was sore after the game but is expected to play against SMU. The 6-8 Latvia native had four points, four rebounds, two assists and a block against Florida State, which was critical with starting power forward Joey King in foul trouble.

King fouled out with just three points in seven minutes.

"(Oseniks) was hobbling; certainly it was visible," Pitino said. "But Oto will fight through his pain. I think that was pretty evident by what he did last night. He knows he's done after Thursday, so he's going to get the most out of this experience."
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bga1 said:
He has a degenerative condition. He can play on it but it's not good for him and it probably is painful. He feels so forced out that he is taking a position on Pitino's staff next year. Sounds like there might be bad blood between the two of them. ;)
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If a Pitino needs a scholarship he knows how to find one and I have no problem with that. Back when we only had one, I even theorized a non-qualifier may find it difficult to be admitted.
 

bga1 said:
Normally - career ending for a coach is defined as not cracking .500 in 6 years of conference play. Were you talking about players or coaches?
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I hope you realize that my posts have become more than defending Tubby becasue there is no need for that any more. I just noticed a bit lies here, that's all.
 

GopherJake said:
We Dick lovers will only love Dick as long as he can figure out within 6 years how to do the impossible: Finish over .500 in the Big Ten. Tall order, I know. Very tight time frame. We would never have had that type of expectation for Tubby.
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Long time ago, around 10 months ago, the bar was set to win a NC and B1G every year. Now, the bar is lowered to win .500 in B1G. Are we scared that expectations were too high and we are back to earth? I say yes.
 

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