Temple's Anthony Lee transferring elsewhere for final season

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cjbfbp said:
Agreed. You can tell just by watching him that he would be more comfortable at the small forward role. Maybe the prior poster feels that because he doesn't seem to have what it takes to be an elite small forward, he should play power forward, but not having the tools to be elite at one position doesn't indicate that one would be better off playing a different role. We know that he doesn't have what it takes to be a upper level Big Ten power forward.
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King can barely defend a PF on the perimeter, how is he going to defend a SF?

From an offensive stand point, other than hitting the occasional wide open 3-pointer, what other perimeter skills does he have? He can't dribble and can't shoot off the dribble. Did you see how many times he tried to put the ball on the floor and it was just taken from him? He has no permiter skills on the offensive or defensive side. So how does that make him a SF?
 

JimmyJamesMD said:
King can barely defend a PF on the perimeter, how is he going to defend a SF?

From an offensive stand point, other than hitting the occasional wide open 3-pointer, what other perimeter skills does he have? He can't dribble and can't shoot off the dribble. Did you see how many times he tried to put the ball on the floor and it was just taken from him? He has no permiter skills on the offensive or defensive side. So how does that make him a SF?
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Boy are you spot on. Sid Hartman could take King off the dribble.
 

You guys realize we play mostly 2-3, right? No reason King can't play SF when we are in the 2-3. He would be playing the same position on defense as he would be if he were playing the 4. I'm not sure why people are arguing this. He can play either forward spot.
 

beavergopher said:
Boy are you spot on. Sid Hartman could take King off the dribble.
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Not a chance. When he was in his late eighties, maybe. Today, King shuts Sid down 99 out of 100 times.

I can't believe some of the amateurs on the hoops board!
 

Couple tweets from Temple basketball radio color analyst who interviewed Lee today.

<blockquoteclass="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Look for Anthony Lee to target a school in the Midwest. Talked about his desire to play somewhere near his parents so they can go to games.</p>— Zach Gelb (@ZachGelb) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZachGelb/statuses/445960317890473984">March 18, 2014</a></blockquote> <script asyncsrc="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/mportsch">@mportsch</a> His parents live in Iowa.</p>— Zach Gelb (@ZachGelb) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZachGelb/statuses/445964370640912384">March 18, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 




MadtownGopher said:
You guys realize we play mostly 2-3, right? No reason King can't play SF when we are in the 2-3. He would be playing the same position on defense as he would be if he were playing the 4. I'm not sure why people are arguing this. He can play either forward spot.
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King is one of the reasons why they played zone this year.

It's not ideal for a team to press then get back into the zone as a base defense. I would not expect Pitino to keep this type of defense once he gets players here suitable for man-to-man.

And you do realize small forwards play offensee, right? What if a team presses us, you want King helping break the press?

I'll stop debating this. Maybe we just have a different understanding of what skills are required from a SF.
 

Iowa State was one of the first teams I thought of when I saw that tweet. I think it will kind of depend on the role he wants too as there is probably more opportunity here to start than at Iowa State and especially at Wisconsin with Hayes and Kaminsky. Also saw a tweet from an Indiana beat writer that a source has said they are interested in Lee but you can't have contact with graduate transfers yet.
 



Not to derail the thread anymore but my concern with king as a sf is his ball handling. He looks extremely uncomoratble trying to dribble. That and his defense.
 

Sounds like a good option. We are senior-heavy next year, but we have 3 open scholarships so that hardly seems like a concern.
 

The fact we are senior heavy and have a hole at PF should be really attractive to him. Instant playing time and we'll be all in with Mathieu, Dre, Mo, and EE set to graduate in 2015.
 

howeda7 said:
Sounds like a good option. We are senior-heavy next year, but we have 3 open scholarships so that hardly seems like a concern.
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Realistically, though, bringing in someone with two years eligibility works a lot better so it would not surprise me if they look at that first.

As it stands now, King is the only sophomore (junior next year). Adding a one and done just makes next year even more top heavy and 15-16 an even younger team.
 



Winnipegopher said:
Realistically, though, bringing in someone with two years eligibility works a lot better so it would not surprise me if they look at that first.

As it stands now, King is the only sophomore (junior next year). Adding a one and done just makes next year even more top heavy and 15-16 an even younger team.
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I believe Carlos Morris will be a junior next year, too. If Pitino gives one of his 4(?) scholarships next year to a graduate transfer, that is three scholarships in Joey King's year. That sounds good to me.

My biggest (literally) concern is finding a big man that can start beefing up during a redshirt year next year. Elliot and Mo will leave a gaping hole after next year.
 

Winnipegopher said:
Realistically, though, bringing in someone with two years eligibility works a lot better so it would not surprise me if they look at that first.

As it stands now, King is the only sophomore (junior next year). Adding a one and done just makes next year even more top heavy and 15-16 an even younger team.
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What are the odds we even fill all 3? We ended up giving Kendall Shell a scholarship this year and the same thing may end up happening next year. If 2 of the 3 fill tomorrow, OK. Otherwise if this kid wants to come here, take him in a heartbeat.
 

JimmyJamesMD said:
King is one of the reasons why they played zone this year.

It's not ideal for a team to press then get back into the zone as a base defense. I would not expect Pitino to keep this type of defense once he gets players here suitable for man-to-man.

And you do realize small forwards play offensee, right? What if a team presses us, you want King helping break the press?

I'll stop debating this. Maybe we just have a different understanding of what skills are required from a SF.
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Simply not true. So yes, please stop "debating" this. You're throwing stuff against the wall and hoping it will stick.
 


Winnipegopher said:
Realistically, though, bringing in someone with two years eligibility works a lot better so it would not surprise me if they look at that first.

As it stands now, King is the only sophomore (junior next year). Adding a one and done just makes next year even more top heavy and 15-16 an even younger team.
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Agree that in terms of class balance that would be the best option, the arguments for doing it are the following:

1) Grab a productive productive player from whatever source you can if he is willing; hesitation can be deadly at this time of year.

2) To feel less heat in year 3, Pitino needs to maximize year 2 results because year 3 could easily be a step back from year 2.

3) A quality freshman playing behind a fifth year senior only waits for one year.
 

fan of Ray Williams said:
Was the guy injured or something at the end of the year? Sat down for a few real big games in a 4 game stretch.

2-16, didn't play against SMU.
2-22, didn't play against Memphis.
2-27, didn't play against Louisville.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/51317/anthony-lee
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Appears he missed the SMU game because of a left knee injury. Not sure about the other two since he played against UConn in between. Might have been the same deal, just lingered.
 




JimmyJamesMD said:
King play SF? No way. No chance. He's a backup PF, that's it. Unless a juco or graduate transfer comes in at PF, Martin will be the starting PF next year.

Now Buggs on the otherhand, his best position will hopefully be SF.
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King and Oto's ideal positions are SF, not power forward. Rick Pitino at the North Dakota State game even said that.
 


I think we already are a tourney team next year with Austin being the only guy we are losing. We could actually have a very good year if he come along.
 

HOOP DREAMS said:
He could definitly be a 32mpg, 15pts & 10rbs guy for us if he came here. Problem is he will have a lot of options.
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He wasn't a 15 and 10 guy in the A10. He certainly won't be in the big ten. Trevor only averaged 14 and 10 his junior year so he definitely won't. 10 and 7 would be realistic and ideal and would be superior to anything King or Oto have ever produced. Very similar to what Buckles did this year at FIU.
 

die hard gopher said:
10 and 7 would be realistic and ideal and would be superior to anything King or Oto have ever produced. Very similar to what Buckles did this year at FIU.
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Buckles was just under 14 and 9 this year at FIU.
 

die hard gopher said:
They have Hayes and Decker
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Dekker will be starting at the 3 next year, his natural position. He's even more of a SG than PF. Hayes will start at PF, Kaminsky at C. They have some young bigs that will have to come off the bench, like Vitto Brown and Dukan (SF/PF). They also have a freshman PF.

ETA: Bo foreshadowed this lineup change against the Gophers in the BTT and it was a really strong line up.
 

JimmyJamesMD said:
King is one of the reasons why they played zone this year.

It's not ideal for a team to press then get back into the zone as a base defense. I would not expect Pitino to keep this type of defense once he gets players here suitable for man-to-man.

And you do realize small forwards play offensee, right? What if a team presses us, you want King helping break the press?

I'll stop debating this. Maybe we just have a different understanding of what skills are required from a SF.
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I see teams all the time that press and fall back into a zone... It's a pretty common type of defense to do
 

die hard gopher said:
He wasn't a 15 and 10 guy in the A10. He certainly won't be in the big ten. Trevor only averaged 14 and 10 his junior year so he definitely won't. 10 and 7 would be realistic and ideal and would be superior to anything King or Oto have ever produced. Very similar to what Buckles did this year at FIU.
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I would be thrilled if he came here and was a 10 and 7 guy. Even 8 and 6 would be nice. Joey King averaged 6.3 and 2.7, Oto had 5.4 and 2.8, and Buggs had 2.3 and 1.1. That was over a cumulative average of 46.6 minutes per game, that our PF position averaged 6.6 rebounds per game. I haven't checked with other teams, but I think that is bad.
 

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