Star Tribune: Gophers football players plan to threaten boycott of bowl game

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MNGoldenGophers1 said:
IF Claeys is being insubordinate, it will be house cleaning time.
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Claeys didn't encourage or ask the players to do this boycott, the players are not blind on who pushed the suspensions and the havoc it has unleashed on the program and the University itself. Good luck recruiting anybody to play football for this program or to coach it for that matter. Someone will take the money but the U is setting itself up as bottom feeders for a long while. They thought ticket sales bombed this year, this cluster bleep has only made matters worse. What a freaking nightmare if you're a Gopher football supporter, or a parent of a player. This is really a sad day for Gopher football. Best case scenario is we never have to see or have this situation occur again.
 

Players know exactly what happened . If these players harmed a girl against her will the teammates would not stand with them . My guess is they'd kick the crap out of them


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gopherdudepart2 said:
Claeys didn't encourage or ask the players to do this boycott, the players are not blind on who pushed the suspensions and the havoc it has unleashed on the program and the University itself. Good luck recruiting anybody to play football for this program or to coach it for that matter. Someone will take the money but the U is setting itself up as bottom feeders for a long while. They thought ticket sales bombed this year, this cluster bleep has only made matters worse. What a freaking nightmare if you're a Gopher football supporter, or a parent of a player. This is really a sad day for Gopher football. Best case scenario is we never have to see or have this situation occur again.
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Very accurate take. Agreed.
 



The 10 players are being referred to as rapists on twitter.
Where do they go to get their reputations back?


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Breakin' The Plane said:
Claeys probably wishes they'd have just fired him.
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And we wonder why Coach Kill's health deteriorated and he ended up retiring from the U. I bet to High He__ he the former coach is glad he is out of here. Probably even thought go hire some other "Muppet" to raise funds for the athletes village.(Good luck with garnering donors now to anyone that has to deal with this fiasco.
Claeys is probably wishing they had fired him now too even with the low buyout he probably wouldn't have a problem getting a DC job anywhere else. Not everyone will leave, but I bet there are quite a few talented players making transfer plans about now.
 

drinks at Northpoint said:
The 10 players are being referred to as rapists on twitter.
Where do they go to get their reputations back?


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Doubt it can happen, once branded you are screwed. Court of public opinion moves fast and is more often than not permanent.
 





drinks at Northpoint said:
The 10 players are being referred to as rapists on twitter.
Where do they go to get their reputations back?


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Exactly the points I have been making, yet you cannot argue in a circle.
You cannot even argue with all of the people that have made circular judgements and judged them as such.
 

drinks at Northpoint said:
The 10 players are being referred to as rapists on twitter.
Where do they go to get their reputations back?


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This is exactly what happened at ISU in the Palo case. He sued the University, but that does not change public perception. He was (as are the Gophers) tried in the court of public opinion and that is tough to overturn...
 

Robemcdo said:
Players know exactly what happened . If these players harmed a girl against her will the teammates would not stand with them . My guess is they'd kick the crap out of them Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Absolutely the most clueless post in any thread today. The only players who know what really happened are those who were in the room. And their attorney has taken great pains to make sure they all have their stories straight.
 




UpnorthGo4 said:
Absolutely the most clueless post in any thread today. The only players who know what really happened are those who were in the room. And their attorney has taken great pains to make sure they all have their story straight.
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Go find a hole
 

tato2001 said:
We still don't know what happened, but it appears that a whole bunch of people a lot closer to this than we are feel these guys are getting railroaded.
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Let's keep the train references to a minimum.
 

Torres9 said:
Please make this stop. I feel for the players but this is horrible for the U.

I Have absolutely no idea about the merits of this investigation but prosecutors rarely bring rape cases - i don't think that fact here tells us all that much about what actually happened.

Honest question - what are Kaler / Coyle supposed to do - overrule this committee? That would require some very rock solid reason.

What a mess.
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Maybe wait until the appeals process plays out before suspension, especially after legal prosecution didn't happen.


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UpnorthGo4 said:
Any player who participates in this boycott should be kicked off the team and his scholarship should be taken away. If we don't play in the bowl game - so be it.
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In legal terms, that's called retaliation. Also would violate the their 1st Amendment rights in several ways. Bring it on, my friend. Kaler is for sure a dead man walking if he goes that route.
 

PMWinSTP said:
In legal terms, that's called retaliation. Also would violate the their 1st Amendment rights in several ways. Bring it on, my friend. Kaler is for sure a dead man walking if he goes that route.
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+1
 

This has to be addressed by the administration right now. like right now
 

oak_street1981 said:
The decisions of the Prosecutors and the police last fall is very telling. This is not a 100 percent "he said, she said" situation, since we know know that the RB Djam created a fairly large amount of video, which the police and prosecutor were given access to by DJam.
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The article I read said that Djam shared 90 seconds of video total across three clips. The incident lasted 90 minutes, according to the same article. I don't know that I'd call that a "fairly large amount." Also unclear is when the 90 seconds was recorded. If it was the first 90 seconds of the incident, it's almost meaningless. If it's the last 90 seconds, it probably has more relevance.
 




PMWinSTP said:
In legal terms, that's called retaliation. Also would violate the their 1st Amendment rights in several ways. Bring it on, my friend. Kaler is for sure a dead man walking if he goes that route.
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Scholarships could still be taken away depending on the wording of the scholarship requirements (i.e. something like "If able, the player must compete on their designated team"). Expulsion still cannot happen, but the players could loose scholarship.
 


PMWinSTP said:
Just the opposite, if he is in support of them, they will be love him. Days of Bob Knight and Woody Hayes are long gone.
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Multiple Coaches including Sawvel and Sherels have publically expressed support. Someone turned the lights on and opened up the door for them.
 

Well, this is a fine mess the U got itself into.

I don't know what they did, but Coyle has not been impressive in how he handled this.

He said he and the coach jointly made the decision. That was false from what we are hearing now.

The players who are accused are announced publicly, but then he hides between played education privacy rules after the harm of mentioning their names has been done.


This is really F-ed up.



This stuff never happens at Florida, Miami, Alabama, or Michigan mind you.
 

PMWinSTP said:
In legal terms, that's called retaliation. Also would violate the their 1st Amendment rights in several ways. Bring it on, my friend. Kaler is for sure a dead man walking if he goes that route.
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It's not a violation of their first amendment rights.
 

PMWinSTP said:
In legal terms, that's called retaliation. Also would violate the their 1st Amendment rights in several ways.
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Please explain what first amendment rights are implicated by a university removing a football player who refuses to play football from the football team.
 

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