Star Tribune: Gophers football players plan to threaten boycott of bowl game

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Maximus said:
And they say millennials are selfish, lazy, etc.

By the way, what should parents tell their kids about what the players are standing up for? Health care, compensation, equal treatment, consequence-free gangbangs?
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They're standing up for players being treated unfairly. 5 players have been recommended for expulsion, and 5 for year long suspensions. You think they are just supposed to be OK with that?
 

UpnorthGo4 said:
Or better yet - go gang bang the first drunken girl you can find. I am sure you have plenty of buddies who would help you do it.
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Sounds like the girl's story doesn't have any merit since the police declined to do anything...

How would you feel if 10 of your buddies got punished for something even the police wouldn't touch?:rolleyes:
 

So we finally have a bowl game where we won't have to hear about how all those extra days of practice are really going to benefit the team next year.
 



You know why they are really doing this.

MaxyJR1 said:
Passing up your final game ever for this, would be very telling.


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I really don't think seniors that were not involved would be boycotting team activity's or bowl preperation if they really thought they were supporting criminals.

The EOAA and President Kaler have unleashed hell on the football program and like Coach Swavel said, the coaches players all of them are being attacked. By choosing to make examples of these individuals this University has created a giant bleep storm that is just as much of their making as it is individuals who may have or may not have behaved poorly. The one's that are getting really hosed are being held to a standard they could not achieve especially if they are sleeping or not involved in the incident.

Because of all of this media reporting and all of the conjecture since the 09/02/16 incident, these guys are all damned if they do, damned if they don't by the University of Minnesota and the media in this town.

Now it is all guilt by association, you read it in the comments sections, people are talking about it at work, Man the Gophers are a mess or they are a bunch of thugs. This whole thing has become a heaping pile of poo because a lack of leadership and justice by President Kaler and really the AD itself.
Play for the Gophers Football you must be a pervert, sexual deviant, a convict or of bad morale background. This is hurting the program beyond just this year.
There already are ton's of people pulling support from tickets, alumni association all of it, really this giant bleep show is going to be the gift that keeps on giving. I just don't think the entire team would quit practicing or do the boycott if unless they felt there is injustice by the University in this situation. This situation is going to hurt this program for years, because of the bad perception it has created about the Gopher football program and the University itself. By blanket supporting the office of EOAA findings the University has harmed itself a lot.
 


Former Goofer said:
Sounds like the girl's story doesn't have any merit since the police declined to do anything...

How would you feel if 10 of your buddies got punished for something even the police wouldn't touch?:rolleyes:
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Police investigated the case as a crime and the U investigated it as a violation of the Student Code of Conduct. Big difference between the two with a lesser standard of proof for the U.
 




gopherdudepart2 said:
I really don't think seniors that were not involved would be boycotting team activity's or bowl preperation if they really thought they were supporting criminals.
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Wrong. I am sure most of the players on the team are like most of posters in GopherHole who think gang banging drunken coeds is a lot fun and why are the Puritans in Minnesota making such a fuss about it?
 

The question is... Does the "Victim" even want this to go any further anymore? I mean they did come to a settlement, and I suppose one word from her could help this situation out. The most absurd thing is to suspend 4 players for a year, just because they were in the same building. Even if it was them "harassing" the victim afterwards, which we do not know if it was or was not, does it deserve a one year suspension? And the timing is for maximum effect, how convenient?! I support the players, as it seems this is just some sort of witch hunt.

#WeHadEnough
 

UpnorthGo4 said:
Wrong. I am sure most of the players on the team are like most of posters in GopherHole who think gang banging drunken coeds is a lot fun and why are the Puritans in Minnesota making such a fuss about it.
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Whatever point you are trying to make goes more and more out the window with each of your posts.
 

UpnorthGo4 said:
Police investigated the case as a crime and the U investigated it as a violation of the Student Code of Conduct. Big difference between the two with a lesser standard of proof for the U.
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Imagine if players around the country were consistently suspended or kicked off the team for violating the 'Student Code of Conduct'? Better yet, what if universities just kicked out anyone who violates the 'code of conduct'? Not only would football not exist, the majority of universities would no longer exist.
 



I have been quiet on this and this is my first time posting on any of the threads related to this. I think it is awful and embarrassing that the University has been silent on this. They say it is to protect the players privacy but it is having the opposite effect. No more of this back and forth.

If they are innocent, the University should be supporting the players publicly.

If they assaulted someone then expel them.

If all the players are united on this then I think that is a sign that they should be playing. If they assaulted someone then I cant see the whole team being supportive.
 

WCCO.com to carry gophers press conference expected to start soon

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GopherWeatherGuy said:
Imagine if players around the country were consistently suspended or kicked off the team for violating the 'Student Code of Conduct'? Better yet, what if universities just kicked out anyone who violates the 'code of conduct'? Not only would football not exist, the majority of universities would no longer exist.
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Complete BS. Trying something else. College players get kicked off teams everywhere in the country for violating the Student Code of Conduct.
 

UpnorthGo4 said:
Wrong. I am sure most of the players on the team are like most of posters in GopherHole who think gang banging drunken coeds is a lot fun and why are the Puritans in Minnesota making such a fuss about it?
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Then why agree to the boycott? For selfish reasons as a senior, that alone would say I'm not going along with that. There is more to this story than you or I know. Keep repeating the gang bang mantra though as that seems to fit your narrative. You already have all of the 10 guy's convicted of moral turpitude and being a sexual deviant. Don't assume we all condone sexual assault either even if we are trying to support the program in some aspect and defend some of the accused.
 

UpnorthGo4 said:
Police investigated the case as a crime and the U investigated it as a violation of the Student Code of Conduct. Big difference between the two with a lesser standard of proof for the U.
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LOL

you made the accusation that "they gang banged the first drunken girl they could find" and the girl TRIED to press changes and the police didn't find any merit to me. From that you can essentially infer that it was consensual.

Is having sex against the Student Code of Conduct?

Does every player violate the Student Code of Conduct if a girl they have sex with just randomly comes out and accuses them?
 

Gogogopher said:
This horrible news for our program and university. If you are more interested in waging a war on political correctness or the EEOC then maybe this makes you happy. The whole sad situation is a mess. I can't see how anything good can come of the boycott. If you think this is going to benefit the football team in anyway I question your judgement. This will not lead the revolution; it will only hurt our program.
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The U needs to become the world's largest all female institution.
 

I can't believe some of you think that the U administration is going to negotiate with the players on this. That seems highly unlikely, virtually impossible. That is not the way an organization like the U works. This is in issue of institutional control. I know many of you think of the U primarily in terms of athletics, but that is only a small part of the organization. The administration will look at this as a challenge to there control, and will not be impressed.
 

Can someone post e-mail addresses, let's get this thing rocking
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
Imagine if players around the country were consistently suspended or kicked off the team for violating the 'Student Code of Conduct'? Better yet, what if universities just kicked out anyone who violates the 'code of conduct'? Not only would football not exist, the majority of universities would no longer exist.
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It happens here and there. I remember a guy was kicked off the BYU team a few years ago for having premarital sex. Granted BYU is not a public university.
 

Gogogopher said:
I can't believe some of you think that the U administration is going to negotiate with the players on this. That seems highly unlikely, virtually impossible. That is not the way an organization like the U works. This is in issue of institutional control. I know many of you think of the U primarily in terms of athletics, but that is only a small part of the organization. The administration will look at this as a challenge to there control, and will not be impressed.
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Agreed, they the U will say go forward and forfeit the game then even if it hurts them financially and the reputation of the school itself. That said, all of this wasn't just brought on by the incident, some of this was brought on by U administration, President Kaler and their handling of this situation.
 

Woli speaking and SLAMMING Kahler and Coyle, demanding apology from them and wanting meeting with regents w/o either present.
 

The U should cancel the bowl trip and send the players home for the holidays.
 

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Former Goofer said:
Sounds like the girl's story doesn't have any merit since the police declined to do anything...

How would you feel if 10 of your buddies got punished for something even the police wouldn't touch?:rolleyes:
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This topic had me worked up beyond belief when it broke again on Tuesday. I still am very displeased, but will try to be more calm.

The players have done a very courageous thing by standing up for their teammates. This EOAA process is very dubious, and I realize it has become very standard practice, since 2011 or so, it is still very unfair to the accused. The standard of proof does not even match the level of a civil case, and we know what the Hennepin County attorney and police concluded.

I have heard some suggestions that the members of this EOAA group are very "progressive" and possibly somewhat radical. I am no sure that this group should be the jury, judge and executioner. In some cases they will ruin the lives of several of these ten players. The news that they were adding five more players who were not even in the room, and suggested extreme punishment tells me that they went way beyond reasonable action, and that Kaler and our AD went right along with all of it.

This would have been unfair even if they had gone half as far, but the extreme nature of this decision, probably will expose the serious challenges of this Title 9 interpretation, now that the players are standing up with the boycott.

The decisions of the Prosecutors and the police last fall is very telling. This is not a 100 percent "he said, she said" situation, since we know know that the RB Djam created a fairly large amount of video, which the police and prosecutor were given access to by DJam.

There is little doubt that the professionals (Police and Attorneys) would have leaned towards Criminal charges if it was even close, due the unsavory nature of the events that night, and clearly they saw a lot of strong evidence that did not support any charges. This woman certainly had Civil recourse as well.

I question the professional investigation credentials of the EOAA process, and I question the objectivity of the process, beginning with some of the underlying assumptions they may have made before even starting.
 



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