Spring Season & Roster 2023

[Gophers_4life]

I wonder how awkward things were with Landfair and Shaffmaster, playing with Booth at USA tryouts, etc.. And how awkward it will be if all 3 make the final cut.

Well seeing as I doubt that Shaff, still, has learned how to run a proper 1 set on anything other than a perfect pass, Booth probably will not get that many sets anyway.

 

[(R)uffda!]

Wow. Maybe being a fan of a team isn't your thing.

 

[Gophers_4life]

Which part was the lie?

 

[Gopher68]

Opposite Lydia Grote joins the Gophers.

 

[(R)uffda!]

Which part was the lie?

In my opinion, the whole premise. Not a lie, but incorrect. But what I meant by my post is that it was unnecessarily harsh. (And I'm assuming you meant "hasn't.")

 

[Gophers_4life]

In my opinion, the whole premise. Not a lie, but incorrect. But what I meant by my post is that it was unnecessarily harsh. (And I'm assuming you meant "hasn't.")

Neither Landfair nor Wucherer would be a better passer than a really solid DS. Would sub them both out if we had two really good ones. Nebraska 2021, Texas 2022. Correct

“I doubt that Shaff has …” Correct

 

[Gophers_4life]

Opposite Lydia Grote joins the Gophers.

Hmmm … when you Google it, it shows the gophersports page for the announcement, but then if you click on it it says that the page does not exist.

Hope this is just a temporary mistake.

EDIT: here’s the link that got pushed out
gophersports.com/news/2023/3/13/opposite-lydia-grote-joins-gophers-volleyball-program

 

[Gophers_4life]

Also, again, why would an opposite with 2 years left come here from a P5 program???

We already have Crowl and Schnichels.

We don’t need another opposite. We need DS

 

[(R)uffda!]

Neither Landfair nor Wucherer would be a better passer than a really solid DS. Would sub them both out if we had two really good ones. Nebraska 2022, Texas 2023. Correct

“I doubt that Shaff has …” Correct

Sorry, yes, correct.

Nebraska 2022, Texas 2023 each had ELITE libero/DS combinations (some of the same people even). The problem with your premise is that you are making a hasty generalization.

Furthermore, both Landfair and Wucherer bring elements to the backrow that the Nebraska and Texas DSs do not. Would it be enough to offset what ELITE DSs would bring? Maybe. Maybe not. Would it offset what good DSs would bring? Much more likely.

 

[Gophers_4life]

Sorry, yes, correct.

Nebraska 2022, Texas 2023 each had ELITE libero/DS combinations (some of the same people even). The problem with your premise is that you are making a hasty generalization.

Furthermore, both Landfair and Wucherer bring elements to the backrow that the Nebraska and Texas DSs do not. Would it be enough to offset what ELITE DSs would bring? Maybe. Maybe not. Would it offset what good DSs would bring? Much more likely.

Not making a generalization because I’m fully ceding the point to you that we may not have any such DS on the roster by this fall.

I was talking about roster construction. Not game strategy no matter what.

 

[(R)uffda!]

So your argument is that better players should play if they are on the roster. Great. Agreed.

I thought your argument is that a team that uses DSs is going to be stronger than a team with 6ro players -- and that the Gophers were automatically out of contention because 6 ro players can win in today's game, just the Olympics, etc. Strongly disagree with that one.

 

[GopherVB23]

Except if you have aspirations to go on and play for the national team as a 6 ro player, or play internationally, you need that experience in the NCAA. Karch has even said he's trying to influence college coaches to train and play the way the national team does with 6 ro players.

 

[IMGopher]

Opposite Lydia Grote joins the Gophers.

Her sister Marin played under KC for 5 years at Washington and now plays pro in the Turkish League. Must've spoken highly of him. I'm expecting Grote to take on a similar role as Gros last year (mentorship and energy) as we have young talent in that position.

 

[4EverAGopher]

I have a friend living in Hawaii who attended the Wednesday match. She stated that Wucherer was struggling in the back row passing/digging. She also stated how she felt Gray's performance as the Libero was good. I found these statements interesting.

I am not one of the Gopher coaches and just have to put my failth in them that they know how to judge talent and what this Gopher team does or does not need in transfers in. RIght now as a Gopher fan, I am happy with what this Coaching Staff has done bringing in three EXPERIENCED players.

 

[Gophers_4life]

So your argument is that better players should play if they are on the roster. Great. Agreed.

I thought your argument is that a team that uses DSs is going to be stronger than a team with 6ro players -- and that the Gophers were automatically out of contention because 6 ro players can win in today's game, just the Olympics, etc. Strongly disagree with that one.

The actual argument I'm making is simple, clear, and correct. You're purposefully here trying to obfuscate, because you don't like it. That's all that's going on here.

To make the simple, clear, and correct argument once again: the strategy for recruiting and building a roster that emphasizes front row/backrow specialization, is superior in college women's volleyball to the strategy that emphasizes Olympic style six-rotation players.


Hugh's lack of success, vs. the success of teams like Neb 2021 and Tex 2022 proves it.

 

[Gophers_4life]

Except if you have aspirations to go on and play for the national team as a 6 ro player, or play internationally, you need that experience in the NCAA.

Nope. You don't!

Karch has even said he's trying to influence college coaches to train and play the way the national team does with 6 ro players.

I don't give a good crap what Karch wants.

If I'm trying to win titles in college, I'm going to do the thing that wins titles in college. I'll give Karch my middle finger and tell him to go sit on it and spin.

 

[Gophers_4life]

I have a friend living in Hawaii who attended the Wednesday match. She stated that Wucherer was struggling in the back row passing/digging. She also stated how she felt Gray's performance as the Libero was good. I found these statements interesting.

I am not one of the Gopher coaches and just have to put my failth in them that they know how to judge talent and what this Gopher team does or does not need in transfers in. RIght now as a Gopher fan, I am happy with what this Coaching Staff has done bringing in three EXPERIENCED players.

Also have no problem bringing in an older player to be an experience mentor, so long as she wasn't led on with false hopes of starting.

Grote has as much chance of starting here as Hanson does, barring injuries.