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Was it a catch?

  • No

    Votes: 4 19.0%
  • Definitely not

    Votes: 7 33.3%
  • Incomplete Pass

    Votes: 10 47.6%

  • Total voters
    21

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We need a thread dedicated to just how awful that incomplete pass call reversal was.

Just watched the video several times. It wasn’t a catch. The video very clearly shows both toes had already left the turf by the time the ball arrived.
 






The problem I have with it, is what ever happened to clear and obvious. The ref that was like 12 feet away had a much better view than the replay was in the snow. Glad it didn’t matter. Just an irritant in the long run.
That’s the thing for me — and it’s not even about this particular play. “Clear and obvious” (or whatever they say now) should just be taken out of the rule. Replay has become about microseconds, angles not even available to the broadcast, and scrutinizing frame by frame. I’m all for getting calls right, but it’s gotten crazy. They should either a) take out that language, b) actually start officiating that way, or c) put a time limit on reviews to encourage going with the call on the field unless wildly obvious.
 







That’s the thing for me — and it’s not even about this particular play. “Clear and obvious” (or whatever they say now) should just be taken out of the rule. Replay has become about microseconds, angles not even available to the broadcast, and scrutinizing frame by frame. I’m all for getting calls right, but it’s gotten crazy. They should either a) take out that language, b) actually start officiating that way, or c) put a time limit on reviews to encourage going with the call on the field unless wildly obvious.
There was far greater evidence to overturn the Oregon touchdown pass than this incompletion call. The inconsistency is the major issue no matter the standard applied.
 








Doesn't this picture show his left shoot clearly inbounds, though? The Maroon is IN bounds. His foot in on the Maroon in this picture.
I don’t think it’s that clear. Part of the shoe is red so it’s pretty hard to tell 100%. Also I’d love to see a replay of the long pass to set up the TD, pretty sure the play clock expired prior to the snap.
 



I think every conference should adopt the ACC model of including the conversation between officials and the replay booth in the broadcast. Much more transparent and more interesting than listening to a washed up ref/“rules analyst” babble on about what he thinks the call will be.
 

I think every conference should adopt the ACC model of including the conversation between officials and the replay booth in the broadcast. Much more transparent and more interesting than listening to a washed up ref/“rules analyst” babble on about what he thinks the call will be.
Risk reward

The reward is less accusations of conspiracy
The risk is you might prove your officials to be clueless
 




To sum it up, the team left no doubt. Another year with the Axe!
 


The thing that pisses me off the most is with replay, it has always been said that to overturn a call it has to be really obvious. At the very least, this wasn't obvious at all. The fact it is debatable is reason enough to conclude it shouldn't have been reversed.

I'm still burning over the Ohio State targeting of Mitch Leidner that was also reversed after review that showed plainly and obviously it WAS a good call on the field. A review should never result in an obvious good call being reversed.

In this case, the two toes in bounds is debatable and the illegal touching is likely... so it shouldn't have been reversed.
 




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