Should Ben Johnson had the team foul at end of regulation?

Should Ben Johnson had the team foul at end of regulation?

  • Yes, should have fouled. This loss is on Johnson.

    Votes: 72 92.3%

  • No, he made the right call, just a tough shot.

    Votes: 6 7.7%
  • Total voters
    78
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Should have picked them up full court and waist some time getting the ball up the court, hopefully this would have forced them into a hurried shot even if you don't foul.
 
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Foul! Ben is a brutal coach. Garcia needs to get the ball in space and moving to the hoop, he is not a post up type player. Need to play faster. Our defense is decent, but our offense is fucking horrible. Gotta play more up tempo with this roster

That was a terrible decision not to foul…….but Ben still hasn’t addressed all of his teams biggest weakness…….SHOOTING! Absolutely terrible!!!
 

MNVCGUY said:
Lots of teams/coaches don't foul in that situation. Their guy made the shot so most fans will see not fouling as the wrong decision.....he misses the shot and suddenly it was a great choice.

Personally I think they should have fouled when the clock got under 5 seconds and the ball handler wasn't in the act of shooting but it is what it is.
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Must. Defend. Johnson...
 

Pretty sure watching veteran coach Izzo in that situation last year a couple times and he fouled as soon as it got under 8 seconds and they cross half court.
 

TD12 said:
Foul! Ben is a brutal coach. Garcia needs to get the ball in space and moving to the hoop, he is not a post up type player. Need to play faster. Our defense is decent, but our offense is fucking horrible. Gotta play more up tempo with this roster

That was a terrible decision not to foul…….but Ben still hasn’t addressed all of his teams biggest weakness…….SHOOTING! Absolutely terrible!!!
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But this team can’t get in a free throw shooting contest. They left far too many points at the free throw line. My 94 year old mother in law used to say “free throws win games”
 


TD12 said:
Foul! Ben is a brutal coach. Garcia needs to get the ball in space and moving to the hoop, he is not a post up type player. Need to play faster. Our defense is decent, but our offense is fucking horrible. Gotta play more up tempo with this roster

That was a terrible decision not to foul…….but Ben still hasn’t addressed all of his teams biggest weakness…….SHOOTING! Absolutely terrible!!!
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With horrible offense, playing faster would ensure double digit losses for every game. Ben has to work with what he has and a terrible shooting team means you slow everything down and hope your defense keeps it close.
 

Guys. Seriously. This is about as black and white a situation as it can get. I will repeat myself. Last time.

This isn’t about fouling up 3 or not. There are situations where it can truly vary.

This isn’t about Ben choosing not to foul up 3 as soon as ball got near half court. Or having the guys foul once clock was at 4 seconds.

This is about the fact he LITERALLY HAD US FOUL UP THREE ON MONDAY WITH 15 SECONDS LEFT.

Seriously. That is the issue. We have a coach so out of his depth. He can’t even be remotely consistent THREE DAYS apart. His reasoning after the game was “we aren’t good at free throws so why extend the game” uhhhh he did the same thing Monday with way more time. Aka a greater extension of the game.

He’s objectively unfit to coach. He objectively made the wrong decision. Because he objectively made the inconsistent decision.

Debate over.
 

FinnGopher said:
With horrible offense, playing faster would ensure double digit losses for every game. Ben has to work with what he has and a terrible shooting team means you slow everything down and hope your defense keeps it close.
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This. This actually isn't a bad squad IF they had good shooters- very WI like.
 

MUgopher32 said:
Guys. Seriously. This is about as black and white a situation as it can get. I will repeat myself. Last time.

This isn’t about fouling up 3 or not. There are situations where it can truly vary.

This isn’t about Ben choosing not to foul up 3 as soon as ball got near half court. Or having the guys foul once clock was at 4 seconds.

This is about the fact he LITERALLY HAD US FOUL UP THREE ON MONDAY WITH 15 SECONDS LEFT.

Seriously. That is the issue. We have a coach so out of his depth. He can’t even be remotely consistent THREE DAYS apart. His reasoning after the game was “we aren’t good at free throws so why extend the game” uhhhh he did the same thing Monday with way more time. Aka a greater extension of the game.

He’s objectively unfit to coach. He objectively made the wrong decision. Because he objectively made the inconsistent decision.

Debate over.
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You've actually extended the debate to fit or unfit. Jim Souhan will be needed to make that determination. 😏
 



Garyisawinner said:
But this team can’t get in a free throw shooting contest. They left far too many points at the free throw line. My 94 year old mother in law used to say “free throws win games”
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I agree that we can’t shoot….but….you still need to foul, put your team in position to win

Terrible
 

3/23 from 3 and still should have won the game. Ben Johnson sucks! Needs to go away. Cannot recruit the most glaring issue on this team.
 


90% on Ben Johnson and 10% on Fox and Patterson for terrible defense.. Fox is guarding the 7 footer who is a non threat so it’s like playing 4 on 5…

The 7 footer slips the screen and Patterson hesitates almost like he expects contact…half ass attempt by Patterson… Patterson leaves way to much space..Fox should not of even worried about his man and hedged or doubled hard.. pretty basic… know who you are guarding.. Fox is slow to react and should have been a step out farther out.. Fox gets a hand up but late.. Fox’s guy slips the screen and dives to the hoop terrible recognition..
 






TD12 said:
Foul! Ben is a brutal coach. Garcia needs to get the ball in space and moving to the hoop, he is not a post up type player. Need to play faster. Our defense is decent, but our offense is fucking horrible. Gotta play more up tempo with this roster

That was a terrible decision not to foul…….but Ben still hasn’t addressed all of his teams biggest weakness…….SHOOTING! Absolutely terrible!!!
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3-23 from 3 and 9-17 from the FT is terrible…
 

yes definitely foul, the loss is on johnson, again.
 



MNVCGUY said:
Lots of teams/coaches don't foul in that situation. Their guy made the shot so most fans will see not fouling as the wrong decision.....he misses the shot and suddenly it was a great choice.

Personally I think they should have fouled when the clock got under 5 seconds and the ball handler wasn't in the act of shooting but it is what it is.
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It wouldn’t have made it a great choice.
 

WoodburyTim said:
It wouldn’t have made it a great choice.
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Don’t foul, bad shooter misses contested 3, win the game. Seems like the decision would be viewed differently by most fans if it worked out that way.
 

MNVCGUY said:
Must. Be. Ahole...

Already said I think they should have fouled, sorry it bothers you that I am pointing out that not every coach chooses to foul in that situation.
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Oh FFS.

You're so far up Johnson's ass you cant see your own posts.
 

MNVCGUY said:
Don’t foul, bad shooter misses contested 3, win the game. Seems like the decision would be viewed differently by most fans if it worked out that way.
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It just would mean the wrong decision worked out. Doesn’t make it the right decision.
 

USAF said:
Oh FFS.

You're so far up Johnson's ass you cant see your own posts.
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You keep saying stuff like that but where is the proof? I said I would have fouled in this case, I agree with everyone that says Johnson has to make the NCAA tournament this season or he should be fired. Hell, I have even said they would have been totally justified in firing him when the team broke up in the off season.

Baring a complete miracle Johnson is getting fired at the end of this season and it will 100% be the right decision. But feel free to keep accusing me having a view on Johnson that I don't.....I get it....reading and comprehending can be tough.
 


MNVCGUY said:
You keep saying stuff like that but where is the proof? I said I would have fouled in this case, I agree with everyone that says Johnson has to make the NCAA tournament this season or he should be fired. Hell, I have even said they would have been totally justified in firing him when the team broke up in the off season.

Baring a complete miracle Johnson is getting fired at the end of this season and it will 100% be the right decision. But feel free to keep accusing me having a view on Johnson that I don't.....I get it....reading and comprehending can be tough.
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He's correct. Admit it.
 

MNVCGUY said:
You keep saying stuff like that but where is the proof? I said I would have fouled in this case, I agree with everyone that says Johnson has to make the NCAA tournament this season or he should be fired. Hell, I have even said they would have been totally justified in firing him when the team broke up in the off season.

Baring a complete miracle Johnson is getting fired at the end of this season and it will 100% be the right decision. But feel free to keep accusing me having a view on Johnson that I don't.....I get it....reading and comprehending can be tough.
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Weren't you the one that started a CBJ is not a disaster thread?
 


MNVCGUY said:
Don’t foul, bad shooter misses contested 3, win the game. Seems like the decision would be viewed differently by most fans if it worked out that way.
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That's true for all sports decisions. I don't care if a coach makes a decision I don't like as long as they execute it well. At the end of the day, I hold the coach responsible for wins and losses, not whether they make decisions I agree with or how much I like their recruits.
 

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