Should Ben Johnson had the team foul at end of regulation?

Should Ben Johnson had the team foul at end of regulation?

  • Yes, should have fouled. This loss is on Johnson.

    Votes: 61 92.4%

  • No, he made the right call, just a tough shot.

    Votes: 5 7.6%
  • Total voters
    66
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I can't believe we didn't foul, especially after a timeout when we had time to talk through scenarios.
 


As soon as the clock goes under 5, yes. Even if somehow they’re in shooting motion, a kid going 3/3 at the line even if they’re an 80% shooter is still 50/50. If you’re not going to, you press the 3 pt line instead of the weird sag/stay away thing we did.
 




Its egregious simply because just 3 days ago he entered a free throw war having us foul up 3 with 15 seconds left.

absolutely insane to now have them not foul once ball hits around half court with like 7 or 8 seconds.

Guy is Matt eberflus level bad
 

Johnnyboy18 said:
The guy that made it is a career 23% 3 point shooter and WSU shoots under 30% as a team
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Why give them a 3 in 10 chance to win, when they had nearly zero chance if we foul?

But whatever, he just doesn't win games. Maybe he's the unluckiest coach in history or maybe he just isn't very good at it.
 

MUgopher32 said:
Its egregious simply because just 3 days ago he entered a free throw war having us foul up 3 with 15 seconds left.

absolutely insane to now have them not foul once ball hits around half court with like 7 or 8 seconds.

Guy is Matt eberflus level bad
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Right and I hated it there. The other night we fouled with like 10 seconds left and they ended up getting another possession.
 

Wichita ran like 3 dribble hand offs and we still didn't foul. Lmao. Just totally inept.
 





bga1 said:
Why give them a 3 in 10 chance to win, when they had nearly zero chance if we foul?

But whatever, he just doesn't win games. Maybe he's the unluckiest coach in history or maybe he just isn't very good at it.
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Right. They still needed some luck there....but a good coach mitigates that chance. Johnson and the players blew that.
 




It’s a bit of Dean Wurmer (sp?) advice: “Fat, drunk & stupid son is no way to go through life.” For Ben, it’s: awful injury luck & weird situational coaching which puts his job squarely in jeopardy. To lose Cochran (assuming he’s the asset as advertised as a tenacious defender)) for a team that can win only with sheer determination and hustle when you need to be stacking non-conference wins is the basketball gods punishing Minnesota yet again. Meanwhile, Ben just got in his own way in arguably some of the most crucial seconds of his Gopher tenure. This wouid have been a huge win under the circumstances—never mind the ugliness of the game.
 


Hindsight is 20/20, but I was hoping they’d foul. Apparently it’s the statistically smart thing. Be that as it may, the Gophers fought hard and actually did pretty well considering Garcia’s bad game.
 




The guy who made the decision not to foul is the same guy making all major decisions for this team. You trust that guys judgment? He's just not a bright guy, period.
 






the problem we have it the person in charge of hiring/firing the BB coach knows less about BB than the BB coach...dumb and dumber lead our team.
 

upnorthkid said:
As soon as the clock goes under 5, yes. Even if somehow they’re in shooting motion, a kid going 3/3 at the line even if they’re an 80% shooter is still 50/50. If you’re not going to, you press the 3 pt line instead of the weird sag/stay away thing we did.
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Yeah, I wouldn't have fouled right away but once the clock got under 5 seconds the opportunity was there to foul #22 who was at the top of the key and not anywhere close to being in the shooting motion.

We are a bad FT shooting team so fouling early and extending the game isn't a good strategy for this team. But in this particular case there was an opportunity where fouling would have made a lot of sense under 5 seconds.
 


WoodburyTim said:
It amazing that anyone can defend not fouling, but this is Gopherhole….
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Lots of teams/coaches don't foul in that situation. Their guy made the shot so most fans will see not fouling as the wrong decision.....he misses the shot and suddenly it was a great choice.

Personally I think they should have fouled when the clock got under 5 seconds and the ball handler wasn't in the act of shooting but it is what it is.
 

MNVCGUY said:
Lots of teams/coaches don't foul in that situation. Their guy made the shot so most fans will see not fouling as the wrong decision.....he misses the shot and suddenly it was a great choice.

Personally I think they should have fouled when the clock got under 5 seconds and the ball handler wasn't in the act of shooting but it is what it is.
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The outcome has nothing to do with it. It's the wrong decision whether he makes or misses, especially given how little time was left. I'm not sure why this is even a debate.

And if you're not going to foul at least instruct the team to play better fucking defense. I'm not sure what worse, not fouling, or playing defense like you're scared to foul. Just brutal.
 

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