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this is actually a good thing. Get this trouble maker off the team once and for all.
 


[ ] shocked

This was a long time coming tbh folks. I was surprised he even got into college considering how poor his grades were in HS and considering some of the classes he probably took.
 

Well that sucks.

I too will never understand these guys wasting the opportunities given to them at this level. It's really crazy.

I hope he gets his act together. It would be a shame to just waste it all away.

So what does the MLB position look like now?

Tinsley, but he'll maybe sit a game or two. Then who? Does Rallis play MLB?
 

Carter and Watkins Are Special

Maximus said:
Now we can stop the asinine talk that the defense will be better this season. Programs like Minnesota don't replace nine starters on defense and get better. There's zero depth in the secondary....zero depth on the defensive line. Relying on a walk on safety at linebacker, not to mention Hacksaw. A transfer from Minnesota State in the secondary. A converted tight end on the defensive line.

The Sporting News was right on.

Brew's shining moment - 2008 recruiting class:
GONE: Brock, Combs, Dandridge, Hill, Lawrence, Maresh, McKinley, Nance, Pittman, Sharpe, Simmons, Smith, Whaley
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Your doomday forecast is simply too emotional. Football is the ultimate team sport, so no one player can stop the train. You seem to be repeating arguments profferred by others and the news; folks that aren't allowed to see the team work out. Granted, DLine depth could be a concern if Kirksey or Edwards show inability to manage the majority of snaps but they will likely be studs. Youth on Ends could be a slight issue thoulgh. Frankly, I just think you are uninformed regarding your secondary comment. BUT, we will see.
 


the best part about this story is that the family nor the student-athlete puts any of the blame on the U and this is all about the choices the student-athlete made and hopefully is seeking the help needed.
 

Maximus said:
Now we can stop the asinine talk that the defense will be better this season. Programs like Minnesota don't replace nine starters on defense and get better. There's zero depth in the secondary....zero depth on the defensive line. Relying on a walk on safety at linebacker, not to mention Hacksaw. A transfer from Minnesota State in the secondary. A converted tight end on the defensive line.

The Sporting News was right on.

Brew's shining moment - 2008 recruiting class:
GONE: Brock, Combs, Dandridge, Hill, Lawrence, Maresh, McKinley, Nance, Pittman, Sharpe, Simmons, Smith, Whaley
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Relying at a walk on at linebacker, or a walk on at linebacker has beaten out other highly ranked and very talented kids, and that walk on was one of the stars of the spring game. A transfer from MSU in the secondary...so what? Kid isn't starting, and if he ends up starting, good for him. Plenty of NFL players who were walk ons, not wanted at some point in their career. You are looking for the negative and you've found it. Sounds like you are ready to give up on the season. That's your right. Don't ruin it for everyone else.
 

The 12th Man said:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Brewster.
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False.

It shows either his serious inability as a judge of character ---or--- his serious inability to keep his boys reined in.

When you name a young man the flagbearer of the U football team (literally), you had better be damn sure he is going to represent well.

Brewster failed.
 

Leave to LakesBison to impose this turdlet of wisdom in the Strib comments scetion.

get well sam
sam had to get well with his health, now he has to get well with his life. He will turn it around and maybe head up to NDSU where his brother was a star, and then come back to TCF in 2011 and beat the gophers....again.

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Thank you lakesbison for again adding nothing to the converstaion. You sir are a pest.
 





Damn! Some of you dudes are severely depressing!

The Sam Marish lost is bad for him as a person; there will be little to no impact on the field. This is the gopher’s deepest position.

OL, will be better. The new aggressive approach and an added year of experience will make this unit much improved.

Rb, see o-line.

QB, Weber will benefit from having a college experienced and longtime O-coord. The other QB's (Marquise) will be able to play football instead of executing a pro-level off scheme. Weber will have his best season as a QB; he did not all of a sudden forget how to play football last season.

Wr, they will benefit from a more friendly offensive scheme. These guys will be able to just play football instead of adjusting routes on the go (explains why balls were thrown where no Rec was). As a whole, this group will be much better than last season.

DL, better at every position...especially the DE's. While stopping the run at the DE position remains a question, we will get a significant amount of more pressure on the QB from the DE's.

LB's, to a man will be improved. This group will be able to cover TE's and get proper depth in coverage. This is a more athletic group than last year. This year’s group will be able to get sideline to sideline. The question is can the interior d-line keep them free because they are not as stout as last years lb's. I say yes because I believe this year’s tackles are better.

Sec, Carter finished the season playing more than Trey. Carter is bigger than last season and handles zone coverage better (hence the change). While it remains to be seen if Carter can play man better (there is too much film on him jumping routes he had better mix it up) I do not believe Trey is much ahead in that area. Collado is better in the run than Marcus, but Marcus was our best cover corner. However... last season we played so much zone to cover up for lb's both Marcus and Trey's man coverage skills where not used much. My point is with lb's that can cover you can mix zone and man coverage’s up frequently enough that opposing Qb's won't know what coverage we are in. Watkins was going to play this season regardless of Kyle's off field issues. Kyle is damn good at what he does but what Kenny lacks in experience he offers more in range and is just as good a tackler. Kim will be back sooner than later this season, he offers coverage and proved that he could be an every down fs at 190ish pounds (bigger this season). We found out in spring ball Lewis (a converted cb also) can cover too. The question is can he cover 250lb Te's and tackle 220lb Rb's week in and out or until Kim returns? Henderson's emergence and Collado's improvement makes it a moot point in my opinion. We have depth in the sec to be creative and good enough until Kim's return.

This year will be an exciting year in Gopher football, Coach Brewster finally has a staff in place that I believe understands college football and the bigten who will be around a long time and he is finally getting to play players he recruited.
 

Thank you, 24. It is so good to have someone who understands college football post once in a while. Not only CF but Gopher football. Rare indeed.
 



MrGopher said:
False.

It shows either his serious inability as a judge of character ---or--- his serious inability to keep his boys reined in.

When you name a young man the flagbearer of the U football team (literally), you had better be damn sure he is going to represent well.

Brewster failed.
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Man, you are so off base here. He was trying to help pick the young man up. Damn! Can't you see that? He wanted Sam to feel an important part of the team even though he had not regained adequate competition level condition. Can you imagine being that successful in high school and ending up on the bypass machine; once he returned, he had lost a step. THAT SUCKS! Now. folks like you want to dump on the young man because he is having problems dealing with it. YOU NEED TO CHECK YOURSELF!
 

Stargenes said:
Man, you are so off base here. He was trying to help pick the young man up. Damn! Can't you see that? He wanted Sam to feel an important part of the team even though he had not regained adequate competition level condition. Can you imagine being that successful in high school and ending up on the bypass machine; once he returned, he had lost a step. THAT SUCKS! Now. folks like you want to dump on the young man because he is having problems dealing with it. YOU NEED TO CHECK YOURSELF!
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I think that Brewster promised Maresh the flag before the heart stuff even came up. I could be wrong, though. You can fault Brewster if you want. The divorce rate in the world tells me that a lot of people fail when it comes to judging character. I've gotta wonder where Sam Maresh would be if he'd never had the heart problem. It's not an excuse, but maybe he'd have done a better job of managing himself and his school work if he wouldn't have had the setbacks. I'd still love to see him contribute to the U, but that's up to him now. Hopefully he grows up a little bit and realizes what a gift he's been given.
 


The guy is getting a lot of talk for a 21/22 year old freshman who is likely to have not been more than a special teams player this year anyways.
 


MrGopher said:
False.

It shows either his serious inability as a judge of character ---or--- his serious inability to keep his boys reined in.

When you name a young man the flagbearer of the U football team (literally), you had better be damn sure he is going to represent well.

Brewster failed.
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Whoops! Your bitter agenda is showing. Best tuck it back where it belongs.
 

Sportsfan24 said:
Damn! Some of you dudes are severly depressing!

The Sam Marish lost is bad for him as a person, there will be little to no impact on the field. This is the gophers deepest position.

OL, will better. The new agressive approach and an added year of experience will make this unit much improved.

Rb, see o-line.

QB, Weber will benefit having an college experienced and longtime O-coord. The other QB's (Marquise) will be able to play football instead of excuting a pro-level off scheme. Weber will have his best season as a QB, he didn't all of a sudden forget how to play football last season.

Wr, they will benefit from a more friendly offensive scheme. These guys will be able to just play football instead of adjusting routes on the go (explains why balls were thrown where no Rec was). As a whole this group will be much better than last season.

DL, better at every position...especially the DE's. While stopping the run at the DE position remains a question, we will get a sugnificant amount of more presure on the QB from the DE's.

LB's, to a man will be improved. This goup will be able to cover TE's and get proper depth in coverage. This a much more athletic group than last year. This years group will be able to get sideline to sideline. The question is can the interior d-line keep them free because they are not as stout as last years lb's. I say yes because I believe this years tackles are better.

sec, Carter finished the season playing more than Trey. Carter is bigger than last season and handles zone coverage better (hince the change). While it remains to be seen if Carter can play man better (there is too much film on him jumping routes he better mix it up) I don't believe Trey is much ahead in that area. Collado is better in the run than Marcus but Marcus was our best cover corner. But... last season we played so much zone to cover up for lb's both Marcus and Trey's man coverage skills where not used much. My point is with lb's that can cover you can mix zone and man coverages up frequently enough that opposing Qb's won't know what coverage we are in. Watkins was going to play this season regardless of Kyle's off field issues. Kyle is damn good at what he does but what Kenny lacks in experience he offers more in range and is just as good a tackler. Kim will be back sooner than later this season, he offers coverage and proved that he could be an everydown fs at 190ish pounds (bigger this season). We found out in spring ball Lewis (a converted cb also) can cover too. The question is can he cover 250lb Te's and tackle 220lb Rb's week in and out or until Kim returns? Henderson's emergence and Collado's improvement makes it a moot point in my opinion. We have depth in the sec to be creative and good enough until Kim's return.

This year will be an exciting year in Gopher football, Coach Brewster finally has a staff in place that I believe understands college football and the bigten who will be around a long time and he is finally getting to play players he recruited.
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+1

Nice to be on the same plane with someone I know speaks the TRUTH. And regarding Kim's return, I'd just add, the earlier the better. Likely candadate for team captain and leader of the defensive unit.
 

A Titanic metaphor is rather apropos right now.

MBAGuy said:
...by any objective measure, the program is listing heavily right now. I guess I'll reserve final judgement until I've seen a live play from scrimmage or two against MTSU, but, with the exception of the Gopher football rape scandal, this has been the most brutal offseason in memory.
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Even the most rabid Brewster backer would have to admit we've already hit the iceberg. The only difference is whether or not the ship is heading down. I agree with you that the first quarter of the MTSU game will be rather telling in that regard. Maybe the ship will right itself, and there will be glimmers of hope for 2011 (I don't see much better than 5 wins for 2010).

But if the MTSU game looks like an acid flashback to that 2001 Toledo game where we got our dicks kicked on the road, then the band on the Titanic is already playing, and there's nothing to do but rearrange the deck chairs until the captain goes down with his ship.
 

Maximus said:
Now we can stop the asinine talk that the defense will be better this season. Programs like Minnesota don't replace nine starters on defense and get better. There's zero depth in the secondary....zero depth on the defensive line. Relying on a walk on safety at linebacker, not to mention Hacksaw. A transfer from Minnesota State in the secondary. A converted tight end on the defensive line.

The Sporting News was right on.

Brew's shining moment - 2008 recruiting class:
GONE: Brock, Combs, Dandridge, Hill, Lawrence, Maresh, McKinley, Nance, Pittman, Sharpe, Simmons, Smith, Whaley
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Why are these highlighted players included on your list of players gone from the 2008 recruiting class? Yes, they aren't here any more but that is because they used all of their eligibility. By this logic we should also point out that Decker, Sherels and the Tow Arnett's are also gone.
 

Section2 said:
Relying at a walk on at linebacker, or a walk on at linebacker has beaten out other highly ranked and very talented kids, and that walk on was one of the stars of the spring game. A transfer from MSU in the secondary...so what? Kid isn't starting, and if he ends up starting, good for him. Plenty of NFL players who were walk ons, not wanted at some point in their career. You are looking for the negative and you've found it. Sounds like you are ready to give up on the season. That's your right. Don't ruin it for everyone else.
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The funny thing is that Rallis isn't even really a walk on. He had a scholarship the first day he stepped on campus.
 

Sportsfan24 said:
Damn! Some of you dudes are severely depressing!

The Sam Marish lost is bad for him as a person; there will be little to no impact on the field. This is the gopher’s deepest position.

OL, will be better. The new aggressive approach and an added year of experience will make this unit much improved.

Rb, see o-line.

QB, Weber will benefit from having a college experienced and longtime O-coord. The other QB's (Marquise) will be able to play football instead of executing a pro-level off scheme. Weber will have his best season as a QB; he did not all of a sudden forget how to play football last season.

Wr, they will benefit from a more friendly offensive scheme. These guys will be able to just play football instead of adjusting routes on the go (explains why balls were thrown where no Rec was). As a whole, this group will be much better than last season.

DL, better at every position...especially the DE's. While stopping the run at the DE position remains a question, we will get a significant amount of more pressure on the QB from the DE's.

LB's, to a man will be improved. This group will be able to cover TE's and get proper depth in coverage. This is a more athletic group than last year. This year’s group will be able to get sideline to sideline. The question is can the interior d-line keep them free because they are not as stout as last years lb's. I say yes because I believe this year’s tackles are better.

Sec, Carter finished the season playing more than Trey. Carter is bigger than last season and handles zone coverage better (hence the change). While it remains to be seen if Carter can play man better (there is too much film on him jumping routes he had better mix it up) I do not believe Trey is much ahead in that area. Collado is better in the run than Marcus, but Marcus was our best cover corner. However... last season we played so much zone to cover up for lb's both Marcus and Trey's man coverage skills where not used much. My point is with lb's that can cover you can mix zone and man coverage’s up frequently enough that opposing Qb's won't know what coverage we are in. Watkins was going to play this season regardless of Kyle's off field issues. Kyle is damn good at what he does but what Kenny lacks in experience he offers more in range and is just as good a tackler. Kim will be back sooner than later this season, he offers coverage and proved that he could be an every down fs at 190ish pounds (bigger this season). We found out in spring ball Lewis (a converted cb also) can cover too. The question is can he cover 250lb Te's and tackle 220lb Rb's week in and out or until Kim returns? Henderson's emergence and Collado's improvement makes it a moot point in my opinion. We have depth in the sec to be creative and good enough until Kim's return.

This year will be an exciting year in Gopher football, Coach Brewster finally has a staff in place that I believe understands college football and the bigten who will be around a long time and he is finally getting to play players he recruited.
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Damn, Einstein, I am only going to point out a couple of the serious flaw in your myopia:

1. Last year's rush game came in 11th in the conference and 111th in the nation. How do they not improve, and how many of the guys above them don't improve or remain static? Let's say they improve to 55th???????? Rose Bowl?

2. We don't have a Big 10 RB on our roster...one that can take the pounding any way. Are you in the next Hershel Walker is coming in this fall camp??

3. You are putting a ton of stock in guys who have never played a down vs a BCS team or very few.

4. Who is starting at MLB in Murfreesboro??????????

Not going on from here because you can't make the blind see.
 

Reality Check said:
Damn, Einstein, I am only going to point out a couple of the serious flaw in your myopia:

1. Last year's rush game came in 11th in the conference and 111th in the nation. How do they not improve, and how many of the guys above them don't improve or remain static? Let's say they improve to 55th???????? Rose Bowl?

2. We don't have a Big 10 RB on our roster...one that can take the pounding any way. Are you in the next Hershel Walker is coming in this fall camp??

3. You are putting a ton of stock in guys who have never played a down vs a BCS team or very few.

4. Who is starting at MLB in Murfreesboro??????????

Not going on from here because you can't make the blind see.
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Einstein? Naw, you're too kind. I would say I'm more of a Stephen Hawking.

Myopia? I'm near sighted? As in flaws in my near sightedness? Ooookay.

Anyway my man I will address your points accordingly.

1. Going from 111th in the nation to 110th would be considered an improvement, going as you say from 111th to 55th would be considered a hell (more than significant) of an improvement. Me personally, I was thinking moving up 30 spots would be considered a significant improvement. It appears you believe the Gophers must make the Rose Bowl to have significant improvement.

2. We have at least two Bigten rb's on the roster. I guess you wouldn't know that because you have not read it in some magazine somewhere. Name one rb you would consider a bigten rb that was on a team that was, as you said 111th in the nation?........ Don't hurt yourself it's a trick question (what came first the chicken or the egg). Unlike some (you) I have an answer (not that it's the only or correct answer). The primary issue with the Gophers run game last year (in my opinion) was it was too complicated. No doubt there were some performance issues but I thought the lineman were not aggressive enough because they were thinking too much. Positive plays were followed up my negative plays that put the offense in predictable plays (3rd and long) ect. The offense was too complicated, players focused on remembering job assignments instead of knocking the guy in front of them on their butts. Qb's were calling out blocking assignments at the line of scrimmage while at the same time trying to read the defensive alignments in the back seven. Wr's were were trying to read coverages while at the same time running routes. Rb's were trying to find holes that did not exist. Hershal Walker in his prime would not have done (here's that word again) significantly better. Now don't go and get your undies all in a bunch, I am not I repeat not comparing our backs with one of the best college rb's of all time.
I'm just trying to illustrate what I believe was going on with the offense. I believe Coach Brewster recongnized this and has hired the correct person to fix it.

3. Too much stock? I assume your talking about replacing 9 defensive starters. I don't believe you understand what was going on with the D. Coach Cosgrove and Coach Lee did a hell of a job hiding player deficiences. Will we be inexperienced? Big time. If and it's a big if, if this group of players can but it together early (like first game early). This def has the potential to be one the gophers best defenses in well..... you get what I mean. Most importantly, you're wrong when you suggest the majority of the defense has not played a down against a BSC team. Only Hageman, Watkins and lewis have not played. If you put Kim and Kyle back in it's only Hageman.

4. Starting mlb against Middle Tenn? Who cares, they run a spread. We don't need a mlb.

Note: You will seem alot less silly if instead of name calling you spend more time making a decent point. You feel me?:cool02:
 

GoldenHerbs said:
The life of a Minnesota sports fan is tough, constant disapointment. Go Twins.
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No kidding!! I was thinking the same thing. I had just been over browsing the basketball forum getting depressed about that team. And now this. Yea, at least we have the Twins.
 

Sportsfan24 said:
Einstein? Naw, you're too kind. I would say I'm more of a Stephen Hawking.

Myopia? I'm near sighted? As in flaws in my near sightedness? Ooookay.

Anyway my man I will address your points accordingly.

1. Going from 111th in the nation to 110th would be considered an improvement, going as you say from 111th to 55th would be considered a hell (more than significant) of an improvement. Me personally, I was thinking moving up 30 spots would be considered a significant improvement. It appears you believe the Gophers must make the Rose Bowl to have significant improvement.

2. We have at least two Bigten rb's on the roster. I guess you wouldn't know that because you have not read it in some magazine somewhere. Name one rb you would consider a bigten rb that was on a team that was, as you said 111th in the nation?........ Don't hurt yourself it's a trick question (what came first the chicken or the egg). Unlike some (you) I have an answer (not that it's the only or correct answer). The primary issue with the Gophers run game last year (in my opinion) was it was too complicated. No doubt there were some performance issues but I thought the lineman were not aggressive enough because they were thinking too much. Positive plays were followed up my negative plays that put the offense in predictable plays (3rd and long) ect. The offense was too complicated, players focused on remembering job assignments instead of knocking the guy in front of them on their butts. Qb's were calling out blocking assignments at the line of scrimmage while at the same time trying to read the defensive alignments in the back seven. Wr's were were trying to read coverages while at the same time running routes. Rb's were trying to find holes that did not exist. Hershal Walker in his prime would not have done (here's that word again) significantly better. Now don't go and get your undies all in a bunch, I am not I repeat not comparing our backs with one of the best college rb's of all time.
I'm just trying to illustrate what I believe was going on with the offense. I believe Coach Brewster recongnized this and has hired the correct person to fix it.

3. Too much stock? I assume your talking about replacing 9 defensive starters. I don't believe you understand what was going on with the D. Coach Cosgrove and Coach Lee did a hell of a job hiding player deficiences. Will we be inexperienced? Big time. If and it's a big if, if this group of players can but it together early (like first game early). This def has the potential to be one the gophers best defenses in well..... you get what I mean. Most importantly, you're wrong when you suggest the majority of the defense has not played a down against a BSC team. Only Hageman, Watkins and lewis have not played. If you put Kim and Kyle back in it's only Hageman.

4. Starting mlb against Middle Tenn? Who cares, they run a spread. We don't need a mlb.

Note: You will seem alot less silly if instead of name calling you spend more time making a decent point. You feel me?:cool02:
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I'm not "your man," Huggy Bear. Don't you think we should wait until the program gets back to where it was before Twinkle Toes took it over before we try to measure "improvement?" Anyone can take over any entity and spend four years running it into the ground before pounding their chest over a 25% "improvement" from ground zero. The baseline was set in 1/2007 and until it is eclipsed, there has been zero improvement.
 

Reality Check said:
I'm not "your man," Huggy Bear. Don't you think we should wait until the program gets back to where it was before Twinkle Toes took it over before we try to measure "improvement?" Anyone can take over any entity and spend four years running it into the ground before pounding their chest over a 25% "improvement" from ground zero. The baseline was set in 1/2007 and until it is eclipsed, there has been zero improvement.
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Are you drunk? This program is far better than it was when Mason was here, The talent is light years better, the perception of the program nationally is far better and come 2011 and beyond 9 and 10 win seasons will be the norm.
 

diehard said:
Thank you, 24. It is so good to have someone who understands college football post once in a while. Not only CF but Gopher football. Rare indeed.
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Worth repeating.
 

bankonit said:
Are you drunk? This program is far better than it was when Mason was here, The talent is light years better, the perception of the program nationally is far better and come 2011 and beyond 9 and 10 win seasons will be the norm.
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Oh really? Better? Better perception? Guess I missed all those CFB publications picking us as pre-season conference favorites. 0-6 vs. IA & WI is better? No points scored vs. IA in nearly 3 years is better? 2 Big 10 wins per year is better? The 111th ranked offense is better? 0-2 in bowl games is better? All the off field issues are better? "9 and 10 wins will be the norm?" Who is drunk?
 

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