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TwistingMyMelon said:
Yes, they were but there's a lot of variation in the league. Michigan State is #1 in the league and 9--0. When has Minnesota been close to #1 in the 21st century? Eventually one has accept who they are. Most people have no problem accepting their own limitations but for some reason that doesn't extend to their preferred sports teams.
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I’m not even trying to argue with you my man. But why should we “accept” who we are? I’m sure Alabama/Auburn/etc are happy they didn’t. Ben is a good man, but this is too big of a job for him right now.
 

CoffeyTime said:
I’m not even trying to argue with you my man. But why should we “accept” who we are? I’m sure Alabama/Auburn/etc are happy they didn’t. Ben is a good man, but this is too big of a job for him right now.
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Perhaps but this goes back much longer than Ben.
 


TwistingMyMelon said:
Yes, they were but there's a lot of variation in the league. Michigan State is #1 in the league and 9--0. When has Minnesota been close to #1 in the 21st century? Eventually one has accept who they are. Most people have no problem accepting their own limitations but for some reason that doesn't extend to their preferred sports teams.
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"Accept who they are??"

Good lord. What a crock of loser shit.
 



Back to the game: Obviously, we got blown off the court in the 2nd half of the First half, and that flurry from Holloman was a gut punch. Up to that point, in spite of horrible offense, defense was keeping us in the game. The first half illustrated the difference between an elite program and where we are at. There are probably only two Gophers who would be on the MSU roster (Garcia and Asuma).

They shot 20 FTs, we shot 6. Fox did not score in the game. We got out rebounded by a wide margin. Although we played a more legitimate second half, the hole we’d dug in the first was too deep, and there was a sense that Izzo could put his foot back on the gas whenever he wanted.


Bottom line: They are just a better team with an elite program, a hall of fame coach, better players, and one of the toughest places to play in the nation. I think it’s safe to predict we’re back in the win column against WA on Saturday. Go Gophers!
 

Go4POV said:
Back to the game: Obviously, we got blown off the court in the 2nd half of the First half, and that flurry from Holloman was a gut punch. Up to that point, in spite of horrible offense, defense was keeping us in the game. The first half illustrated the difference between an elite program and where we are at. There are probably only two Gophers who would be on the MSU roster (Garcia and Asuma).

They shot 20 FTs, we shot 6. Fox did not score in the game. We got out rebounded by a wide margin. Although we played a more legitimate second half, the hole we’d dug in the first was too deep, and there was a sense that Izzo could put his foot back on the gas whenever he wanted.


Bottom line: They are just a better team with an elite program, a hall of fame coach, better players, and one of the toughest places to play in the nation. I think it’s safe to predict we’re back in the win column against WA on Saturday. Go Gophers!
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Agreed. Those 3s really ended the game at that point. We played better in the 2nd half and only lost it by 2 but we couldn't muster anything in the first half and kept shooting ourselves in the foot. We also couldn't defend the big in the pick and roll. Free lane to the hoop nearly every time. Time for a new winning streak!
 





MNVCGUY said:
I would love to know if posters like USAF are jerks in real life or if they just save it for message boards. It is just pathetic. I keep trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because sometimes he has decent posts but at this point I think he is a lost cause.
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When did they/them ever have a good post?
 


CoffeyTime said:
I’m not even trying to argue with you my man. But why should we “accept” who we are? I’m sure Alabama/Auburn/etc are happy they didn’t. Ben is a good man, but this is too big of a job for him right now.
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Twisted wants you to accept who are as a coping mechanism to his years of Ben Johnson bootlicking. If you accept who we are then Ben can’t be blamed. It’s an impossible task. This is the stance of a lot of former CBJ apologists, it’s just impossible to even hope for mediocrity.

Can you imagine the thought process that we could never hope to compete with Iowa State or Northwestern becayse someone with Ben’s resume couldn’t accomplish the goal? If someone who wasn’t qualified to coach in the MAC can’t get it done, I mean, no one can?!?!
 



TwistingMyMelon said:
Yes, they were but there's a lot of variation in the league. Michigan State is #1 in the league and 9--0. When has Minnesota been close to #1 in the 21st century? Eventually one has accept who they are. Most people have no problem accepting their own limitations but for some reason that doesn't extend to their preferred sports teams.
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MSU's schedule gets arduous now. We're going to see if they're really real.
 



Bad Gopher said:
MSU's schedule gets arduous now. We're going to see if they're really real.
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Their schedule is definitely backloaded so will find out if they are top 10 good and a legit National title contender but after 26 straight trips to the NCAA tournament it is a pretty safe bet they are one of the better teams in the country this year.
 

In my opinion its like we see a different coach on the road. Just stands around with his hands crossed, letting the other team go on a run without engaging. I wish he would show a little fight for his team on the side. Heck, even get a technical showing that he is in it for his guys. The standing around, arms crossed, looking like he is going to cry drives me crazy.
 


DietCokeFan said:
In my opinion its like we see a different coach on the road. Just stands around with his hands crossed, letting the other team go on a run without engaging. I wish he would show a little fight for his team on the side. Heck, even get a technical showing that he is in it for his guys. The standing around, arms crossed, looking like he is going to cry drives me crazy.
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When you're team is getting raped without the lube that's really all you can do tbh. Tech really only gets you fired up if it's slipping way but you're still in the fight, the ole Clem jacket toss wouldn't of helped last night either
 

Strongazzoffer said:
When you're team is getting raped without the lube that's really all you can do tbh. Tech really only gets you fired up if it's slipping way but you're still in the fight, the ole Clem jacket toss wouldn't of helped last night either
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I don't disagree with you at all; for some reason it just drives me crazy watching him him stand around with his hands crossed with what seems like no care in the world.
 

DietCokeFan said:
I don't disagree with you at all; for some reason it just drives me crazy watching him him stand around with his hands crossed with what seems like no care in the world.
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when games dont start out good offensively for this year Ben legit just looks like he throws in the towel without even trying anything different....
its ok to still coach, try a new play/set, get williams in to see if he can give you a spark....award your walk ons with some late game PT
 

DietCokeFan said:
I don't disagree with you at all; for some reason it just drives me crazy watching him him stand around with his hands crossed with what seems like no care in the world.
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It's pretty simple. If the team was winning no one would care how Johnson was standing on the sideline. But since we are not winning it is just another thing to add to the list of complaints about Johnson and the state of the basketball program.

Early on in Fleck's tenure there were people that got completely bent out of shape about the running to the new LOS between quarters....now it hardly ever gets brought up because he has had a good run at Minnesota.
 

CoffeyTime said:
I hate to say it but I don’t think that’s true. Pitino brought in higher level talent/athletes here. Over the last 4 years New Mexico has been thoroughly better than Minnesota
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Maybe better recruits but that is it. Did you watch how the Pitino teams played, might as well go to Elliot Park to watch that brand of basketball.
 

howeda7 said:
Asuma should start over Odukale or at least play a lot more. Betts should play more probably. Rigsby just brings nothing if he can't make 3's.
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Asuma has near starter minutes. Odukala is one of the best defenders and rebounders on the team. If any starter should sit, IMO, it should be Patterson. He dribbles away a lot of minutes without looking to pass or penetrate. His shooting percentages is horrible.

Betts? Still a question mark. He is mistake-prone, but is that solely due to a lack of PT?
 

Go4POV said:
Asuma has near starter minutes. Odukala is one of the best defenders and rebounders on the team. If any starter should sit, IMO, it should be Patterson. He dribbles away a lot of minutes without looking to pass or penetrate. His shooting percentages is horrible.

Betts? Still a question mark. He is mistake-prone, but is that solely due to a lack of PT?
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Agree, Odukale isn't a traditional point guard by any means but he is bringing a lot to the team when he is on the court. Patterson is playing better than he did early in the season but if Asuma is going to take minutes from anyone it is probably him.
 

MNVCGUY said:
It's pretty simple. If the team was winning no one would care how Johnson was standing on the sideline. But since we are not winning it is just another thing to add to the list of complaints about Johnson and the state of the basketball program.

Early on in Fleck's tenure there were people that got completely bent out of shape about the running to the new LOS between quarters....now it hardly ever gets brought up because he has had a good run at Minnesota.
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You are correct here and he's a better coach than what I'm about to say.....but, it is amazing how many times the camera catches him with arms crossed looking upward at the scoreboard. He's a compulsive scoreboard watcher. I've found drinking at every occurrence to be a great drinking game.
 

golfing18now said:
You are correct here and he's a better coach than what I'm about to say.....but, it is amazing how many times the camera catches him with arms crossed looking upward at the scoreboard. He's a compulsive scoreboard watcher. I've found drinking at every occurrence to be a great drinking game.
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Back when Mason was here the cameras always caught him looking up with a lost look when things started going sideways in games.... :)

Some coaches are animated, some aren't. How much the coaches demeanor bothers the fanbase will hinge a lot on how happy they are with his performance. Iowa fans probably loved Fran's passion when he was winning but now I bet it bugs the ones that want to see him fired.
 

There was no way they were going to be close with the following stat lines.

Outrebounded 40-22! Ouch!

Outfreethrowed 20-5 in attempts, 15-3 in makes! Ouch!

You can’t make up for that unless you shoot 60% or something crazy.

We are just too soft, short, and unathletic to bang with the teams with B1G level size underneath.
 


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