***OFFICIAL MINNESOTA AT #1 RANKED OHIO STATE BUCKEYES IN-GAME THREAD***

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OSU has no chance this year with Jones at QB. Not a top 10 team with Jones at QB this year.


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SonOfTheVarsity said:
Also, this post is a good example of WHY you punt there. What do you think the odds are of Croft getting 4th and 9 there? And, even if we do, we're still around midfield. If we don't get it, the game is over there.

When you're down 2 scores, there's not a lot of paths to victory, so the right choice is to extend the game as much as possible. Then, fun things like a 50 yard pass could happen.Or get a 3 and out, which we didn't actually do. Maybe we recover the onside kick. Or block a punt or force a turnover. A lot needs to happen for us to come back in that situation. Some good things happened for us, some didn't, and we couldn't pull off the miracle. But that's why playing out your chances over 6:30 is a better choice than betting the farm on a 4th and 9 with a true freshman backup QB and a line that can't protect the passer.
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I don't know where to start here. The Gophers statistical chance of winning the game was significantly diminished by deciding to punt with 6:30 left in the game. The chances of completing ONE 4th and 9 play to keep that drive alive versus needing two quick stops of the Ohio State offense and at least one very quick (likely length of the field) score by your offense. "Betting the farm" on anyone completing a 4th and 9 is a better bet than "betting the farm" on an offense finding a way to score two touchdowns with 2 timeouts and the ball on their own 22 yard line.
 

Unregistered User said:
Haven't slogged though this particular cesspool of a thread, so I don't know if this was posted, but Dilly Bar Dan was wearing shorts tonight:

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Thank god you arrived to rescue it
 


Targeting and ejection

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EG#9 said:
I don't know where to start here. The Gophers statistical chance of winning the game was significantly diminished by deciding to punt with 6:30 left in the game. The chances of completing ONE 4th and 9 play to keep that drive alive versus needing two quick stops of the Ohio State offense and at least one very quick (likely length of the field) score by your offense. "Betting the farm" on anyone completing a 4th and 9 is a better bet than "betting the farm" on an offense finding a way to score two touchdowns with 2 timeouts and the ball on their own 22 yard line.
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Do you have the win probability stats to back this up? Maybe they went down, in the same sense that your chance of winning the lottery is significantly diminished if you buy only one ticket, instead of 2. And if we don't convert, our chance of winning is even worse than if we punt. Apparently you think 6:32 is a lot less time than I do, or you think it's easy converting a 4th and 9. A lot can happen in 6:32, especially when the clock stops after first downs. I think the likelihood of Croft converting there is very low, especially given that our patchwork o-line couldn't protect the QB all night. And I don't think converting there increases the probability of winning enough to validate the risk of not converting.
 

EG#9 said:
I don't know where to start here. The Gophers statistical chance of winning the game was significantly diminished by deciding to punt with 6:30 left in the game. The chances of completing ONE 4th and 9 play to keep that drive alive versus needing two quick stops of the Ohio State offense and at least one very quick (likely length of the field) score by your offense. "Betting the farm" on anyone completing a 4th and 9 is a better bet than "betting the farm" on an offense finding a way to score two touchdowns with 2 timeouts and the ball on their own 22 yard line.
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That's absurd. It was fourth and nine on their own 42. The Gophers possessed the ball two more times after that punt. The probabilities are roughly,

Punt:
Probability of Overtime = Probability of a safe punt, hold, TD, hold, TD.

What actually happened = Safe punt, hold, TD, OSU TD, downs.

Go for it:
Probability of Overtime = Probability of ( a first down, TD, hold, TD, hold ) + ( turnover on downs, yield FG, TD, hold, TD, hold, FG )
The probability of #1 is really low because the probablity of a first down is low. The probability of #2 is really, really low because they have to score 17 points instead of 14.

If the ball were on the OSU side of the field it would have been entirely different as the likelihood of an OSU field goal would have been significantly diminished and the risk of going for it would have been at least reasonable.
 



Breakin' The Plane said:
It just ticks me off. It shouldn't, but it does. To not call it is one thing. That's fine. To call it and pick up the damn flag...
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The flag would have stood in any case except for an OSU score. The flag was picked up to (1) ensure the crowd didn't go ballistic and (2) ensure OSU didn't get into a risky trouble/trap game.

The biggest problem was that the flag was thrown long before the INT occurred. Clearly, the official thought it was a foul, and a bad one at that (ejectable offense).
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Review got it right. I was pissed, but it was not targeting. You can argue that the crown is not part of the hit.


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Apparently your replay angles are all of different views than mine.
 

MaxyJR1 said:
Review got it right. I was pissed, but it was not targeting. You can argue that the crown is not part of the hit.


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Go watch the video the Strib has up right now and tell me again how review got it right.
 

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